Anonymous
Post 01/20/2024 15:54     Subject: Who Doesn't Have A Home Computer?
Unless a company provides a computer, I haven't personally owned a computer in 10 years.

You don't even need them anymore. 95% of the time a phone is good enough for browsing the internet, answering emails, and watching videos. A tablet for the rest.

I know computer programmers who literally don't own computers because they unplug at home and use their phone for anything else they need.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2024 15:27     Subject: Who Doesn't Have A Home Computer?
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Anonymous wrote:I don't have a computer at home. Why would I need one? I have my smartphone and I have an iPad Pro. Everything I need to accomplish in my personal life can be accomplished using those two devices.

I mean, technically I have my old laptop from college in a closet somewhere, but it's at least 8 years old.

The better question is, what kind of rinky-dink employer would think employees should supply their own devices for work?

That's a huge security no-no.


Because it's 10 million times easier and more efficient to answer emails and process work orders on a laptop than it is on a phone.

You ever been in a doctor's office? What do the admins use? A phone or a computer?

Also, since you haven't had a laptop for 8 years, I presume you are either unemployed or employed by a 'rinky dink' employer. Which is it?



I don’t understand what work orders you’re processing in your personal life.


We are talking about working from home. Try and keep up.


We actually aren’t? If you read a little closer, the person above is saying the employer should provide a computer if they want someone to work from home. They should not be expected to use a personal device for work.


You don't get it. PP isn't processing work orders in their personal life. They are doing it in their professional life, on their personal computer, in their home.


My spouse switches from his work computer and a personal one for work. Never uses the work for personal.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2024 15:16     Subject: Who Doesn't Have A Home Computer?
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Anonymous wrote:Is this person young?! Does everything on their phone? I don't get it. You gotta have your own computer. I will not do any personal things like banking or research on my DOD government machine it's unprofessional and irresponsible to not have your own computer in 2024.


Can you imagine looking up some weird rash or side effects from medication, now it’s part of the federal records (unlikely unless lawsuit but still).


That's not how it works.

If you clear your history, cookies, and cache each time you close the browser, the computer is essentially clean. There is no record of what you used it for unless there is a keystroke logging program installed or you downloaded things. Your internet provider, however, could supply your search history, but only then if you aren't running everything on an encrypted VPN. And even then it would require a warrant. Having an itchy rash isn't reasonable cause.


NP but no. You actually can't clear your browsing history(at my large Department). IT can pull them up at any time, but yes they aren't saved forever. I've seen them pulled up in disciplinary cases. We do not have a keystroke logging program.


I can't tell if you're being snarky or don't actually understand what I'm saying, but what you describe is different. Your university may have restricted its laptops to not be able to have history deleted. They likley restrict what browser you can use and whether you can download things or have admin access to the machine.

But, simply stated- a computer keeps no permanent record of what browsing was done on it. If you clear the browser after each use an investigatory effort would focus on the internet provider at that point, not the machine.


Or the invisible web proxy which IT installed between the Internet and the Intranet. Or look at DNS query logs to see what do ain names one was visiting. And, There are lots of other ways to track beyond what PP outlined.


Exactly, if you have a corporate laptop, assume everything is logged, even if you judiciously delete cookie history etc (in fact routine cooking and history clearing will probably attract attention.

Yes on your home computer, you can clear your history, but your ISP definitely has a log of sites you visited unless you used a VPN (which will have their own logging).
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2024 10:39     Subject: Who Doesn't Have A Home Computer?
Anonymous wrote:My employer permits telework when the Fed allows it due to inclement weather. A new hire did not touch any work on Tuesday when we had all that snow. So, in anticipation of tomorrow's event, our manager just sent an email out asking everyone to confirm their ability to field emails and work orders remotely.

She replied that she didn't have a computer at home It's 2024. What does that tell you about her?


She knows how to draw work/personal life boundaries and isn't afraid to do so.

I have a hard time believing this is true.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2024 09:59     Subject: Who Doesn't Have A Home Computer?
I don't have a home computer. DH works from home and has his work computer. But I don't have one. I have a phone and tablet. I've considered getting myself a Chromebook but I would rarely use it. If I need to work from home I'm going to need to bring home a work computer.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2024 09:55     Subject: Who Doesn't Have A Home Computer?
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Anonymous wrote:Is this person young?! Does everything on their phone? I don't get it. You gotta have your own computer. I will not do any personal things like banking or research on my DOD government machine it's unprofessional and irresponsible to not have your own computer in 2024.


Can you imagine looking up some weird rash or side effects from medication, now it’s part of the federal records (unlikely unless lawsuit but still).


That's not how it works.

If you clear your history, cookies, and cache each time you close the browser, the computer is essentially clean. There is no record of what you used it for unless there is a keystroke logging program installed or you downloaded things. Your internet provider, however, could supply your search history, but only then if you aren't running everything on an encrypted VPN. And even then it would require a warrant. Having an itchy rash isn't reasonable cause.


NP but no. You actually can't clear your browsing history(at my large Department). IT can pull them up at any time, but yes they aren't saved forever. I've seen them pulled up in disciplinary cases. We do not have a keystroke logging program.


I can't tell if you're being snarky or don't actually understand what I'm saying, but what you describe is different. Your university may have restricted its laptops to not be able to have history deleted. They likley restrict what browser you can use and whether you can download things or have admin access to the machine.

But, simply stated- a computer keeps no permanent record of what browsing was done on it. If you clear the browser after each use an investigatory effort would focus on the internet provider at that point, not the machine.


Or the invisible web proxy which IT installed between the Internet and the Intranet. Or look at DNS query logs to see what do ain names one was visiting. And, There are lots of other ways to track beyond what PP outlined.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2024 09:16     Subject: Who Doesn't Have A Home Computer?
She uses her phone to get on the internet, or maybe an ipad. I don’t think this is that strange. I do think it’s weird that the employeer doesn’t provide a laptop but expects people to WFH.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2024 08:49     Subject: Who Doesn't Have A Home Computer?
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Anonymous wrote:Is this person young?! Does everything on their phone? I don't get it. You gotta have your own computer. I will not do any personal things like banking or research on my DOD government machine it's unprofessional and irresponsible to not have your own computer in 2024.


Can you imagine looking up some weird rash or side effects from medication, now it’s part of the federal records (unlikely unless lawsuit but still).


That's not how it works.

If you clear your history, cookies, and cache each time you close the browser, the computer is essentially clean. There is no record of what you used it for unless there is a keystroke logging program installed or you downloaded things. Your internet provider, however, could supply your search history, but only then if you aren't running everything on an encrypted VPN. And even then it would require a warrant. Having an itchy rash isn't reasonable cause.


you have no idea what you are talking about
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2024 08:13     Subject: Who Doesn't Have A Home Computer?
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Anonymous wrote:People under 40 use their phones and iPads and work machines.

They don't need a laptop or desktop for personal life.


Women, that is. Men need their "gaming rigs".


I don't know any men who play video games after college.


NP. Yes, you do.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2024 08:11     Subject: Who Doesn't Have A Home Computer?
Anonymous wrote:she just doesn't want to work


Someone having boundaries and not wanting to invest personal finances for the benefit of a company does not equate to not wanting to work.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2024 07:58     Subject: Who Doesn't Have A Home Computer?
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Anonymous wrote:People under 40 use their phones and iPads and work machines.

They don't need a laptop or desktop for personal life.


Women, that is. Men need their "gaming rigs".


I don't know any men who play video games after college.


+1
I am a male and thinking the same thing.

Yet men playing video games always comes up in the relationship threads. Who are these guys?
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2024 19:06     Subject: Who Doesn't Have A Home Computer?
I would never use my personal computer for work. Maybe she said she didn't have a home computer instead od saying I won't use my home computer for work.
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2024 17:05     Subject: Who Doesn't Have A Home Computer?
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Anonymous wrote:It would have been odd before the rise of large iPads with keyboards. Now, I imagine that it is fairly common.


Those large ipads with keyboards often cost much more than a PC laptop, definitely more than a chromebook.


Yes, but people want the ipad, therefore they skip the laptop. And this is why the laptops are so cheap.
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2024 15:02     Subject: Who Doesn't Have A Home Computer?
56 yo male here. Wife and kid have their own personal laptops, but I don't.
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2024 08:19     Subject: Who Doesn't Have A Home Computer?
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Anonymous wrote:Is this person young?! Does everything on their phone? I don't get it. You gotta have your own computer. I will not do any personal things like banking or research on my DOD government machine it's unprofessional and irresponsible to not have your own computer in 2024.


Can you imagine looking up some weird rash or side effects from medication, now it’s part of the federal records (unlikely unless lawsuit but still).


That's not how it works.

If you clear your history, cookies, and cache each time you close the browser, the computer is essentially clean. There is no record of what you used it for unless there is a keystroke logging program installed or you downloaded things. Your internet provider, however, could supply your search history, but only then if you aren't running everything on an encrypted VPN. And even then it would require a warrant. Having an itchy rash isn't reasonable cause.


NP but no. You actually can't clear your browsing history(at my large Department). IT can pull them up at any time, but yes they aren't saved forever. I've seen them pulled up in disciplinary cases. We do not have a keystroke logging program.


NP. IT is pulling it from the network, not the laptop. I work in IT.


+1, and in my agency, things have been designed so that you don’t have to be on the network to access 99% of what you need to do if you are working remotely.