Anonymous
Post 02/28/2024 22:10     Subject: Princeton early action?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you want the key to getting into Princeton it is multifactorial:

1. Be URM
2. Be Legacy
3. Live in an area few Princeton students come from. In other words, move to West Virginia or Montana.
4. Ge a recruited athlete.

A white unhooked kid from the DC area needs to be top 10% of class with near perfect ACT/SAT scores (35 ACT minimum) and mind blowing ECs.


I personally know two URM (black) kids with above 1550 SAT and perfect grades who were admitted to EVERY Ivy EXCEPT Princeton last year. URM doesn't help as much as many of you think. I promise.



You just admitted the URMs got into “EVERY Ivy”. Who else but URMs can say that? Meanwhile my top scoring, valedictorian white privileged legacy male didn’t get into any Ivies. URM does help!!!!!


DP. ORMs. At our school, the kids who swept the Ivies were from overrepresented demographics. Also, Google for the YouTube videos of kids' decision reactions. The ones with tons of top admits are largely Asian and white.

You are just looking for a fall guy and targeting these kids. Stop that.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2024 21:53     Subject: Princeton early action?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you want the key to getting into Princeton it is multifactorial:

1. Be URM
2. Be Legacy
3. Live in an area few Princeton students come from. In other words, move to West Virginia or Montana.
4. Ge a recruited athlete.

A white unhooked kid from the DC area needs to be top 10% of class with near perfect ACT/SAT scores (35 ACT minimum) and mind blowing ECs.


I personally know two URM (black) kids with above 1550 SAT and perfect grades who were admitted to EVERY Ivy EXCEPT Princeton last year. URM doesn't help as much as many of you think. I promise.


the average SAT at our kids school in nyc is 1530.

they take 5 kids out of 100 that apply. and the 100 are all top 10%
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2024 19:18     Subject: Princeton early action?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you want the key to getting into Princeton it is multifactorial:

1. Be URM
2. Be Legacy
3. Live in an area few Princeton students come from. In other words, move to West Virginia or Montana.
4. Ge a recruited athlete.

A white unhooked kid from the DC area needs to be top 10% of class with near perfect ACT/SAT scores (35 ACT minimum) and mind blowing ECs.


I personally know two URM (black) kids with above 1550 SAT and perfect grades who were admitted to EVERY Ivy EXCEPT Princeton last year. URM doesn't help as much as many of you think. I promise.


How are these two statements even compatible? Just because they didn't get 100% Ivy admission? How many non-URM kids do you hear about running the table (or almost) in Ivy League schools?

And to be clear - these URM students you reference are clearly great students....so don't take my comment to mean they are not deserving. But without URM, chances are they are not getting anywhere close to 100% acceptances at Ivy.


+1 PP did not even realize she was providing strong eveidence of the admission boost of URM.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2024 19:09     Subject: Princeton early action?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The posters above who said the key to college admissions is to NOT send your unhooked kid to a private school are 100% right. I learned the hard way at Sidwell. The high GPAs and tons of APs at the public school are critical to admissions.

With few exceptions, the data supports attending Sidwell or another top private though, right? Maybe the kid won't go to Princeton or Stanford but it looks like quite a few still end up at top 20ish places like Chicago.


Except for Chicago - the overwhelming majority of the T20 attendees from Sidwell were hooked last year.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2024 19:05     Subject: Princeton early action?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you want the key to getting into Princeton it is multifactorial:

1. Be URM
2. Be Legacy
3. Live in an area few Princeton students come from. In other words, move to West Virginia or Montana.
4. Ge a recruited athlete.

A white unhooked kid from the DC area needs to be top 10% of class with near perfect ACT/SAT scores (35 ACT minimum) and mind blowing ECs.


I personally know two URM (black) kids with above 1550 SAT and perfect grades who were admitted to EVERY Ivy EXCEPT Princeton last year. URM doesn't help as much as many of you think. I promise.


How are these two statements even compatible? Just because they didn't get 100% Ivy admission? How many non-URM kids do you hear about running the table (or almost) in Ivy League schools?

And to be clear - these URM students you reference are clearly great students....so don't take my comment to mean they are not deserving. But without URM, chances are they are not getting anywhere close to 100% acceptances at Ivy.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2024 18:43     Subject: Re:Princeton early action?
Anonymous wrote:OP here's another one: My DS with perfect stats (GPA & test scores) and about 9 APs & 5 DEs, band section leader as well as few other off-campus ECs with leadership (demonstrated with awards, etc..), and a very competitive (hard to get) HS internship related to the intended major of choice-CS. Ohh and also a URM. Rejected.


My DD also top stat, good EC as well as GPA, URM applied and rejected not deferred so not sure if URM is considered at all as some posters here think URM will get you in.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2024 16:19     Subject: Princeton early action?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you want the key to getting into Princeton it is multifactorial:

1. Be URM
2. Be Legacy
3. Live in an area few Princeton students come from. In other words, move to West Virginia or Montana.
4. Ge a recruited athlete.

A white unhooked kid from the DC area needs to be top 10% of class with near perfect ACT/SAT scores (35 ACT minimum) and mind blowing ECs.


I personally know two URM (black) kids with above 1550 SAT and perfect grades who were admitted to EVERY Ivy EXCEPT Princeton last year. URM doesn't help as much as many of you think. I promise.


Ideally, be 3 out of the 1-3 listed above. 2 out of 3 can be a great help too. Just legacy or just URM is a plus but not decisively so.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2024 16:03     Subject: Princeton early action?
Anonymous wrote:Some of the posts on this thread exemplify what’s wrong and uninteresting about the Ivies. Many of the UMC kids that get in are not compelling students or people, but their parents will do ANYTHING to get them admitted. Then, you have the truly rich and well-connected, who associate with each, but no one else. Throw in the test-optional URMs, Pell grant kids, who are great people, but not the brightest or best connected of the application pool. Finally, you have the middle to UMC kids who are genuinely bright and thought they’d meet their academic peers, only to find out that three-quarters of the class is nothing like them. Whatever.

Wow, this is so racist. My URM kid will definitely submit test scores! And how do you know the Pell grant kids “are not the brightest?” Have you done IQ tests on all of them?
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2024 15:45     Subject: Re:Princeton early action?
OP here's another one: My DS with perfect stats (GPA & test scores) and about 9 APs & 5 DEs, band section leader as well as few other off-campus ECs with leadership (demonstrated with awards, etc..), and a very competitive (hard to get) HS internship related to the intended major of choice-CS. Ohh and also a URM. Rejected.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2024 15:33     Subject: Princeton early action?
tippy top stats white legacy boy cool ECs good essay- rejected.

Sorry, OP.

it’s kinda hard.

Buy the lottery ticket though- maybe you’ll win!
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2024 13:42     Subject: Princeton early action?
Anonymous wrote:The posters above who said the key to college admissions is to NOT send your unhooked kid to a private school are 100% right. I learned the hard way at Sidwell. The high GPAs and tons of APs at the public school are critical to admissions.

With few exceptions, the data supports attending Sidwell or another top private though, right? Maybe the kid won't go to Princeton or Stanford but it looks like quite a few still end up at top 20ish places like Chicago.
Anonymous
Post 02/27/2024 15:57     Subject: Princeton early action?
Anonymous wrote:If you want the key to getting into Princeton it is multifactorial:

1. Be URM
2. Be Legacy
3. Live in an area few Princeton students come from. In other words, move to West Virginia or Montana.
4. Ge a recruited athlete.

A white unhooked kid from the DC area needs to be top 10% of class with near perfect ACT/SAT scores (35 ACT minimum) and mind blowing ECs.


Sorry every student needs to be this, be donor and athlete may be an exception but I know URM needs to be a top student at their school definitely in the top 10%,
Anonymous
Post 02/27/2024 15:50     Subject: Princeton early action?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you want the key to getting into Princeton it is multifactorial:

1. Be URM
2. Be Legacy
3. Live in an area few Princeton students come from. In other words, move to West Virginia or Montana.
4. Ge a recruited athlete.

A white unhooked kid from the DC area needs to be top 10% of class with near perfect ACT/SAT scores (35 ACT minimum) and mind blowing ECs.


I personally know two URM (black) kids with above 1550 SAT and perfect grades who were admitted to EVERY Ivy EXCEPT Princeton last year. URM doesn't help as much as many of you think. I promise.



You just admitted the URMs got into “EVERY Ivy”. Who else but URMs can say that? Meanwhile my top scoring, valedictorian white privileged legacy male didn’t get into any Ivies. URM does help!!!!!


So these top scoring perfect students should NOT have been admitted? No chance they were more qualified than your applicant in other ways, huh? You know that none of these schools have room for EVERY qualified candidate. I'm an URM and my legacy child did not get admitted into the Ivy that I attended either.
Anonymous
Post 02/27/2024 15:45     Subject: Princeton early action?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you want the key to getting into Princeton it is multifactorial:

1. Be URM
2. Be Legacy
3. Live in an area few Princeton students come from. In other words, move to West Virginia or Montana.
4. Ge a recruited athlete.

A white unhooked kid from the DC area needs to be top 10% of class with near perfect ACT/SAT scores (35 ACT minimum) and mind blowing ECs.


I personally know two URM (black) kids with above 1550 SAT and perfect grades who were admitted to EVERY Ivy EXCEPT Princeton last year. URM doesn't help as much as many of you think. I promise.



You just admitted the URMs got into “EVERY Ivy”. Who else but URMs can say that? Meanwhile my top scoring, valedictorian white privileged legacy male didn’t get into any Ivies. URM does help!!!!!
Anonymous
Post 02/27/2024 15:16     Subject: Princeton early action?
Anonymous wrote:If you want the key to getting into Princeton it is multifactorial:

1. Be URM
2. Be Legacy
3. Live in an area few Princeton students come from. In other words, move to West Virginia or Montana.
4. Ge a recruited athlete.

A white unhooked kid from the DC area needs to be top 10% of class with near perfect ACT/SAT scores (35 ACT minimum) and mind blowing ECs.


I personally know two URM (black) kids with above 1550 SAT and perfect grades who were admitted to EVERY Ivy EXCEPT Princeton last year. URM doesn't help as much as many of you think. I promise.