Anonymous
Post 01/07/2024 19:19     Subject: 43 Vehicle Thefts in DC in First 3 Days of 2024

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We need 20-30 year mandatory minimum sentences for any car theft. Period.


The Supreme Court would disagree with you! Moreover, that is cruel & unusual punishment. We need more social services and campaign push for helping fathers parent. Many of the kids stealing probably don't have fathers in the home because the fathers are away in jail. More jail will not resolve the issue.


I think you, respectfully, need to step back from your privileged position and take a look at how the crime impacts those with less resources then you if you think 20-30 years in prison is a ‘cruel and unusual’ punishment for stealing a car.

Imagine you are a poor single mother. Let’s say one day some kid steals the car you worked hard to afford. You now have no transportation, you cannot get to work, so you lose your job. You cannot fet your kids to school, so they get in trouble for absenteeism and ultimately expelled, and you can’t get to the grocery store, so you are forced to feed your kids what is available at the corner store, which leads to them getting obese and having to deal with the medical complications of that.

I hope you can see that stealing the car didn’t just steal this single mother’s physical item, but it was stealing her sole mode of transportation and he dignity. Sure, when your car is stolen, maybe you have the privilege to just laugh on the drive over to the Maserati dealership about how you wanted to buy a new car anyway, but for the vast majority of people, losing their car is a serious, often unrecoverable disaster.

So, tell me how 20-30 years in prison is ‘cruel and unusual’ punishment in this case? How is such a violent and evil crime not worth a punishment that matches its severity, and how do we tell the victims that such evil only justifies a slap on the wrist?


That's why we have insurance, GoFundme, DC has the crime victims compensation fund, other resources to help with schooling and job resources.


Oh, so “She should just go fund me a new car!”

You are such a cruel, cruel individual if you think that response answered anything. Insurance does not pay out the full value of the car, and her insurance costs will sky rocket. Again, just because buying a new car is like pocket change for you does not mean it’s as easy or reasonable to the vast majority of DC residents.

Also, why should we, as taxpayers, pay for a crime victim’s fund to pay for her car, when the answer is right in front of us: we need to prevent the car theft in the first place through instituting reasonable punishments against individuals committing such heinous crimes. It’s great we have these resources, and I fully support them, but we as citizens cannot afford to keep buying people car after car after care after their cars are stolen rather then actually putting in place common sense preventative measures to prevent the theft in the first case. It does not make economic sense.


+1

Kids with guns should be tried as adults.
Anonymous
Post 01/07/2024 19:15     Subject: Re:43 Vehicle Thefts in DC in First 3 Days of 2024

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Was this actually DC? I saw something that said car jacking are on the rise everywhere. Unfortunately, filling up in the city comes with risks.
Anonymous
Post 01/07/2024 15:48     Subject: 43 Vehicle Thefts in DC in First 3 Days of 2024

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We need 20-30 year mandatory minimum sentences for any car theft. Period.


The Supreme Court would disagree with you! Moreover, that is cruel & unusual punishment. We need more social services and campaign push for helping fathers parent. Many of the kids stealing probably don't have fathers in the home because the fathers are away in jail. More jail will not resolve the issue.


A father who is in jail would likely make a lousy parent out of jail.


You’ve never heard why 3 strikes you are out was a failure did ya!


Actually I remember the peace and calm that followed when 3 strikes was implemented. It turned around the high crime of the 80s-90s and needs to be brought back.


Three strikes and 20 automatic years in jail seems about right.
Anonymous
Post 01/07/2024 14:24     Subject: 43 Vehicle Thefts in DC in First 3 Days of 2024

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We need 20-30 year mandatory minimum sentences for any car theft. Period.


The Supreme Court would disagree with you! Moreover, that is cruel & unusual punishment. We need more social services and campaign push for helping fathers parent. Many of the kids stealing probably don't have fathers in the home because the fathers are away in jail. More jail will not resolve the issue.


A father who is in jail would likely make a lousy parent out of jail.


You’ve never heard why 3 strikes you are out was a failure did ya!


Actually I remember the peace and calm that followed when 3 strikes was implemented. It turned around the high crime of the 80s-90s and needs to be brought back.


As a lifelong D I have to admit this is true


Made a huge difference.
Anonymous
Post 01/07/2024 14:23     Subject: Re:43 Vehicle Thefts in DC in First 3 Days of 2024

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Sadly, could be any of us, our teens or our elderly parents...
Anonymous
Post 01/07/2024 14:22     Subject: 43 Vehicle Thefts in DC in First 3 Days of 2024

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We need 20-30 year mandatory minimum sentences for any car theft. Period.


The Supreme Court would disagree with you! Moreover, that is cruel & unusual punishment. We need more social services and campaign push for helping fathers parent. Many of the kids stealing probably don't have fathers in the home because the fathers are away in jail. More jail will not resolve the issue.


A father who is in jail would likely make a lousy parent out of jail.


You’ve never heard why 3 strikes you are out was a failure did ya!


Actually I remember the peace and calm that followed when 3 strikes was implemented. It turned around the high crime of the 80s-90s and needs to be brought back.


As a lifelong D I have to admit this is true
Anonymous
Post 01/07/2024 14:19     Subject: Re:43 Vehicle Thefts in DC in First 3 Days of 2024

Anonymous
Post 01/06/2024 20:33     Subject: Re:43 Vehicle Thefts in DC in First 3 Days of 2024

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s so ridiculous. I watched four teenagers crash a (presumably stolen) car yesterday and then run off without any consequences. I called 911 and walked my dog behind them and told police exactly where they were with great description… nothing. Officers were sent out to the site of the vehicle. It’s so frustrating and honestly unfair to these kids that they don’t have consequences of their behavior at an age where they can still change.


That is really frustrating. They need to make the standard of evidence more reasonable--ie if you are in a stolen car you'd better have a really good explanation. I also had heard they disbanded the car theft task force because they decided it was 'racist' (apostrophes to indicate I don't agree) in the sense that statistically mostly black kids were getting arrested. This could be wrong, but I believe we briefly had a task force and more coordination with VA and MD and then disbanded it. Anyway, if we don't know what the city is doing in response to this crime wave then the messaging has failed- which can only bolster further crime.


You are missing the details here.

Under age 26 = “juvenile offender” under D.C. code. In most of the USA, “juvenile” = under 18. But not DC.

So, under DC law: “you can’t put a 26 year old CHILD in jail! That would be barbaric!”


Per JLG, it could "traumatize them!" I mean, F*** any trauma of the victims and potential victims, many of whom are ACTUAL juveniles.


Oh no, not JLG, at it again!

Anonymous
Post 01/06/2024 19:25     Subject: 43 Vehicle Thefts in DC in First 3 Days of 2024

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We need 20-30 year mandatory minimum sentences for any car theft. Period.


The Supreme Court would disagree with you! Moreover, that is cruel & unusual punishment. We need more social services and campaign push for helping fathers parent. Many of the kids stealing probably don't have fathers in the home because the fathers are away in jail. More jail will not resolve the issue.


A father who is in jail would likely make a lousy parent out of jail.


You’ve never heard why 3 strikes you are out was a failure did ya!


Actually I remember the peace and calm that followed when 3 strikes was implemented. It turned around the high crime of the 80s-90s and needs to be brought back.


Lol no crime increase, thanks for showing your ignorance for all to see.
I remember too, and it did work.
Anonymous
Post 01/06/2024 13:27     Subject: 43 Vehicle Thefts in DC in First 3 Days of 2024

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We need 20-30 year mandatory minimum sentences for any car theft. Period.


The Supreme Court would disagree with you! Moreover, that is cruel & unusual punishment. We need more social services and campaign push for helping fathers parent. Many of the kids stealing probably don't have fathers in the home because the fathers are away in jail. More jail will not resolve the issue.


A father who is in jail would likely make a lousy parent out of jail.


You’ve never heard why 3 strikes you are out was a failure did ya!


Actually I remember the peace and calm that followed when 3 strikes was implemented. It turned around the high crime of the 80s-90s and needs to be brought back.


Lol no crime increase, thanks for showing your ignorance for all to see.


Stolen vehicles ≠ crime in your upside down world...
Anonymous
Post 01/06/2024 12:55     Subject: 43 Vehicle Thefts in DC in First 3 Days of 2024

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We need 20-30 year mandatory minimum sentences for any car theft. Period.


The Supreme Court would disagree with you! Moreover, that is cruel & unusual punishment. We need more social services and campaign push for helping fathers parent. Many of the kids stealing probably don't have fathers in the home because the fathers are away in jail. More jail will not resolve the issue.


A father who is in jail would likely make a lousy parent out of jail.


You’ve never heard why 3 strikes you are out was a failure did ya!


Actually I remember the peace and calm that followed when 3 strikes was implemented. It turned around the high crime of the 80s-90s and needs to be brought back.


Lol no crime increase, thanks for showing your ignorance for all to see.
Anonymous
Post 01/06/2024 12:54     Subject: Re:43 Vehicle Thefts in DC in First 3 Days of 2024

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s so ridiculous. I watched four teenagers crash a (presumably stolen) car yesterday and then run off without any consequences. I called 911 and walked my dog behind them and told police exactly where they were with great description… nothing. Officers were sent out to the site of the vehicle. It’s so frustrating and honestly unfair to these kids that they don’t have consequences of their behavior at an age where they can still change.


I was with you until the bolded. You literally witnessed teenage criminals crash a stolen car and you’re concerned about what’s “fair” for them?? I don’t care one iota of what’s fair for them-they stole a car and could have killed someone. What’s fair for everyone else is lock them up. Because they absolutely won’t change. Mark my words.


Do you think the same when a man overspends on his business and declares bankruptcy? You think they should go to jail for being irresponsible?


A baby was just kidnapped last night by one of these goons and you’re going to compare violent carjacking to…declaring bankruptcy?

Exhibit A of why this problem isn’t going away for awhile. DC is now less safe than Baltimore and you’ve still got people arguing for restorative justice for these cretins. You get the city you deserve!


Yes. Many bankrupt retirement funds and people kill themselves. You choose to ignore crimes committed by your friends.
Anonymous
Post 01/06/2024 11:24     Subject: 43 Vehicle Thefts in DC in First 3 Days of 2024

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We need 20-30 year mandatory minimum sentences for any car theft. Period.


The Supreme Court would disagree with you! Moreover, that is cruel & unusual punishment. We need more social services and campaign push for helping fathers parent. Many of the kids stealing probably don't have fathers in the home because the fathers are away in jail. More jail will not resolve the issue.


This is exactly what my fellow jurors said. We let off a serial car-jacker. He hired his own DA probably because he’d been stealing cars since he was 18. He did not have any employment. He’s been in jail and is 30 now.
Anonymous
Post 01/06/2024 11:13     Subject: 43 Vehicle Thefts in DC in First 3 Days of 2024

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We need 20-30 year mandatory minimum sentences for any car theft. Period.


The Supreme Court would disagree with you! Moreover, that is cruel & unusual punishment. We need more social services and campaign push for helping fathers parent. Many of the kids stealing probably don't have fathers in the home because the fathers are away in jail. More jail will not resolve the issue.


I think you, respectfully, need to step back from your privileged position and take a look at how the crime impacts those with less resources then you if you think 20-30 years in prison is a ‘cruel and unusual’ punishment for stealing a car.

Imagine you are a poor single mother. Let’s say one day some kid steals the car you worked hard to afford. You now have no transportation, you cannot get to work, so you lose your job. You cannot fet your kids to school, so they get in trouble for absenteeism and ultimately expelled, and you can’t get to the grocery store, so you are forced to feed your kids what is available at the corner store, which leads to them getting obese and having to deal with the medical complications of that.

I hope you can see that stealing the car didn’t just steal this single mother’s physical item, but it was stealing her sole mode of transportation and he dignity. Sure, when your car is stolen, maybe you have the privilege to just laugh on the drive over to the Maserati dealership about how you wanted to buy a new car anyway, but for the vast majority of people, losing their car is a serious, often unrecoverable disaster.

So, tell me how 20-30 years in prison is ‘cruel and unusual’ punishment in this case? How is such a violent and evil crime not worth a punishment that matches its severity, and how do we tell the victims that such evil only justifies a slap on the wrist?


That's why we have insurance, GoFundme, DC has the crime victims compensation fund, other resources to help with schooling and job resources.


Oh, so “She should just go fund me a new car!”

You are such a cruel, cruel individual if you think that response answered anything. Insurance does not pay out the full value of the car, and her insurance costs will sky rocket. Again, just because buying a new car is like pocket change for you does not mean it’s as easy or reasonable to the vast majority of DC residents.

Also, why should we, as taxpayers, pay for a crime victim’s fund to pay for her car, when the answer is right in front of us: we need to prevent the car theft in the first place through instituting reasonable punishments against individuals committing such heinous crimes. It’s great we have these resources, and I fully support them, but we as citizens cannot afford to keep buying people car after car after care after their cars are stolen rather then actually putting in place common sense preventative measures to prevent the theft in the first case. It does not make economic sense.
Anonymous
Post 01/06/2024 10:42     Subject: 43 Vehicle Thefts in DC in First 3 Days of 2024

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We need 20-30 year mandatory minimum sentences for any car theft. Period.


The Supreme Court would disagree with you! Moreover, that is cruel & unusual punishment. We need more social services and campaign push for helping fathers parent. Many of the kids stealing probably don't have fathers in the home because the fathers are away in jail. More jail will not resolve the issue.


I think you, respectfully, need to step back from your privileged position and take a look at how the crime impacts those with less resources then you if you think 20-30 years in prison is a ‘cruel and unusual’ punishment for stealing a car.

Imagine you are a poor single mother. Let’s say one day some kid steals the car you worked hard to afford. You now have no transportation, you cannot get to work, so you lose your job. You cannot fet your kids to school, so they get in trouble for absenteeism and ultimately expelled, and you can’t get to the grocery store, so you are forced to feed your kids what is available at the corner store, which leads to them getting obese and having to deal with the medical complications of that.

I hope you can see that stealing the car didn’t just steal this single mother’s physical item, but it was stealing her sole mode of transportation and he dignity. Sure, when your car is stolen, maybe you have the privilege to just laugh on the drive over to the Maserati dealership about how you wanted to buy a new car anyway, but for the vast majority of people, losing their car is a serious, often unrecoverable disaster.

So, tell me how 20-30 years in prison is ‘cruel and unusual’ punishment in this case? How is such a violent and evil crime not worth a punishment that matches its severity, and how do we tell the victims that such evil only justifies a slap on the wrist?


That's why we have insurance, GoFundme, DC has the crime victims compensation fund, other resources to help with schooling and job resources.