Anonymous wrote:She should go to the cheapest college possible if she's going to major in that. Otherwise she'll be saddled with student debt she'll never be able to pay off.

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Anonymous wrote:More than anything in this entire discussion shows why perhaps it is valuable to read, analyze, study and scrutinize this topic in detail.

Exactly. It’s like a...gender studies class!

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Anonymous wrote:More than anything in this entire discussion shows why perhaps it is valuable to read, analyze, study and scrutinize this topic in detail.

Exactly. Its like a...gender studies class!

Anonymous wrote:More than anything in this entire discussion shows why perhaps it is valuable to read, analyze, study and scrutinize this topic in detail.

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Anonymous wrote:Women studies? I am a woman and I cringe. Please talk some sense into your child. Would we tell our sons to study Man Studies? It's nonsense. I understand a desire to focus on this (Im an executive in business that deals with BS from the patriarchy every day) but getting a degree IN IT is the wrong way. Get a degree in something that can be used to affect change and equality - law, software engineering, medicine, business- find a path where your child can affect change in mgmt., executive or advocacy positions with hard skills. That studies degree is worthless and she will be lucky to get a 40K a year job in DEI at a non-profit. It takes a pretty big trust fund to fund a 18 year old for life- I hope its got 8+ figures in it if she will never have to be self sufficient.

Until recently, that was all biomedical studies, cell, animal and human... right down to, amazingly, the first study to determine whether hormone supplementation would be of benefit to menopausal women. Man Studies also includes virtually all safety studies -- from medicines, to chemicals, to crash test dummies, to stab vests, to PPE. It also includes design and engineering -- the size of phones and toilets, the spacing of keys on pianos, the temperature settings for building. Just to name a few.

Thank you for posting actual data vs. the empty-headed reactionary ideologues.

The problem is that Gender Studies does little to nothing to address the very real issues described by the PP. If some one really does want to improve the safety of things like how medicine or PPE impacts women, they get a degree in medicine or a related field. Not gender studies where they study Judith Butler and other post modern nonsense.

You have to understand the very real issues first, in a historical, critical, and well-theorized manner, before you can take steps to address them in a chosen field. Which could be just about anything, given how systemic and pervasive sexism is.

Exactly. Bio and Chem are not going to talk to undergrads about historic and continual sexism in medicine….

The only people who are seriously researching these issues and effecting real change are scientists, not gender studies majors.

Except for most of human history, they…just didn’t. The track record does not exactly inspire confidence.

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Anonymous wrote:Women studies? I am a woman and I cringe. Please talk some sense into your child. Would we tell our sons to study Man Studies? It's nonsense. I understand a desire to focus on this (Im an executive in business that deals with BS from the patriarchy every day) but getting a degree IN IT is the wrong way. Get a degree in something that can be used to affect change and equality - law, software engineering, medicine, business- find a path where your child can affect change in mgmt., executive or advocacy positions with hard skills. That studies degree is worthless and she will be lucky to get a 40K a year job in DEI at a non-profit. It takes a pretty big trust fund to fund a 18 year old for life- I hope its got 8+ figures in it if she will never have to be self sufficient.

Until recently, that was all biomedical studies, cell, animal and human... right down to, amazingly, the first study to determine whether hormone supplementation would be of benefit to menopausal women. Man Studies also includes virtually all safety studies -- from medicines, to chemicals, to crash test dummies, to stab vests, to PPE. It also includes design and engineering -- the size of phones and toilets, the spacing of keys on pianos, the temperature settings for building. Just to name a few.

Thank you for posting actual data vs. the empty-headed reactionary ideologues.

The problem is that Gender Studies does little to nothing to address the very real issues described by the PP. If some one really does want to improve the safety of things like how medicine or PPE impacts women, they get a degree in medicine or a related field. Not gender studies where they study Judith Butler and other post modern nonsense.

You have to understand the very real issues first, in a historical, critical, and well-theorized manner, before you can take steps to address them in a chosen field. Which could be just about anything, given how systemic and pervasive sexism is.

Exactly. Bio and Chem are not going to talk to undergrads about historic and continual sexism in medicine….

The only people who are seriously researching these issues and effecting real change are scientists, not gender studies majors.

Except for most of human history, they…just didn’t. The track record does not exactly inspire confidence.

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Anonymous wrote:Women studies? I am a woman and I cringe. Please talk some sense into your child. Would we tell our sons to study Man Studies? It's nonsense. I understand a desire to focus on this (Im an executive in business that deals with BS from the patriarchy every day) but getting a degree IN IT is the wrong way. Get a degree in something that can be used to affect change and equality - law, software engineering, medicine, business- find a path where your child can affect change in mgmt., executive or advocacy positions with hard skills. That studies degree is worthless and she will be lucky to get a 40K a year job in DEI at a non-profit. It takes a pretty big trust fund to fund a 18 year old for life- I hope its got 8+ figures in it if she will never have to be self sufficient.

Until recently, that was all biomedical studies, cell, animal and human... right down to, amazingly, the first study to determine whether hormone supplementation would be of benefit to menopausal women. Man Studies also includes virtually all safety studies -- from medicines, to chemicals, to crash test dummies, to stab vests, to PPE. It also includes design and engineering -- the size of phones and toilets, the spacing of keys on pianos, the temperature settings for building. Just to name a few.

Thank you for posting actual data vs. the empty-headed reactionary ideologues.

The problem is that Gender Studies does little to nothing to address the very real issues described by the PP. If some one really does want to improve the safety of things like how medicine or PPE impacts women, they get a degree in medicine or a related field. Not gender studies where they study Judith Butler and other post modern nonsense.

You have to understand the very real issues first, in a historical, critical, and well-theorized manner, before you can take steps to address them in a chosen field. Which could be just about anything, given how systemic and pervasive sexism is.

Exactly. Bio and Chem are not going to talk to undergrads about historic and continual sexism in medicine….

The only people who are seriously researching these issues and effecting real change are scientists, not gender studies majors.

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Anonymous wrote:Women studies? I am a woman and I cringe. Please talk some sense into your child. Would we tell our sons to study Man Studies? It's nonsense. I understand a desire to focus on this (Im an executive in business that deals with BS from the patriarchy every day) but getting a degree IN IT is the wrong way. Get a degree in something that can be used to affect change and equality - law, software engineering, medicine, business- find a path where your child can affect change in mgmt., executive or advocacy positions with hard skills. That studies degree is worthless and she will be lucky to get a 40K a year job in DEI at a non-profit. It takes a pretty big trust fund to fund a 18 year old for life- I hope its got 8+ figures in it if she will never have to be self sufficient.

Until recently, that was all biomedical studies, cell, animal and human... right down to, amazingly, the first study to determine whether hormone supplementation would be of benefit to menopausal women. Man Studies also includes virtually all safety studies -- from medicines, to chemicals, to crash test dummies, to stab vests, to PPE. It also includes design and engineering -- the size of phones and toilets, the spacing of keys on pianos, the temperature settings for building. Just to name a few.

Thank you for posting actual data vs. the empty-headed reactionary ideologues.

The problem is that Gender Studies does little to nothing to address the very real issues described by the PP. If some one really does want to improve the safety of things like how medicine or PPE impacts women, they get a degree in medicine or a related field. Not gender studies where they study Judith Butler and other post modern nonsense.

You have to understand the very real issues first, in a historical, critical, and well-theorized manner, before you can take steps to address them in a chosen field. Which could be just about anything, given how systemic and pervasive sexism is.

Exactly. Bio and Chem are not going to talk to undergrads about historic and continual sexism in medicine….

The only people who are seriously researching these issues and effecting real change are scientists, not gender studies majors.

Scientists who have no background in gender studies often have zero interest in these issues.

You clearly know notching about the recent work to improve safety outcomes of medicines and PPE for women and other non-dominant groups. I’d be surprised if even one current enhancement or serious academic study was done by a gender studies major. Care to share any?

Take your simplistic axe to grind elsewhere, sister.

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Anonymous wrote:Women studies? I am a woman and I cringe. Please talk some sense into your child. Would we tell our sons to study Man Studies? It's nonsense. I understand a desire to focus on this (Im an executive in business that deals with BS from the patriarchy every day) but getting a degree IN IT is the wrong way. Get a degree in something that can be used to affect change and equality - law, software engineering, medicine, business- find a path where your child can affect change in mgmt., executive or advocacy positions with hard skills. That studies degree is worthless and she will be lucky to get a 40K a year job in DEI at a non-profit. It takes a pretty big trust fund to fund a 18 year old for life- I hope its got 8+ figures in it if she will never have to be self sufficient.

Until recently, that was all biomedical studies, cell, animal and human... right down to, amazingly, the first study to determine whether hormone supplementation would be of benefit to menopausal women. Man Studies also includes virtually all safety studies -- from medicines, to chemicals, to crash test dummies, to stab vests, to PPE. It also includes design and engineering -- the size of phones and toilets, the spacing of keys on pianos, the temperature settings for building. Just to name a few.

Thank you for posting actual data vs. the empty-headed reactionary ideologues.

The problem is that Gender Studies does little to nothing to address the very real issues described by the PP. If some one really does want to improve the safety of things like how medicine or PPE impacts women, they get a degree in medicine or a related field. Not gender studies where they study Judith Butler and other post modern nonsense.

You have to understand the very real issues first, in a historical, critical, and well-theorized manner, before you can take steps to address them in a chosen field. Which could be just about anything, given how systemic and pervasive sexism is.

Exactly. Bio and Chem are not going to talk to undergrads about historic and continual sexism in medicine….

The only people who are seriously researching these issues and effecting real change are scientists, not gender studies majors.

Scientists who have no background in gender studies often have zero interest in these issues.

You clearly know notching about the recent work to improve safety outcomes of medicines and PPE for women and other non-dominant groups. I’d be surprised if even one current enhancement or serious academic study was done by a gender studies major. Care to share any?

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Anonymous wrote:Women studies? I am a woman and I cringe. Please talk some sense into your child. Would we tell our sons to study Man Studies? It's nonsense. I understand a desire to focus on this (Im an executive in business that deals with BS from the patriarchy every day) but getting a degree IN IT is the wrong way. Get a degree in something that can be used to affect change and equality - law, software engineering, medicine, business- find a path where your child can affect change in mgmt., executive or advocacy positions with hard skills. That studies degree is worthless and she will be lucky to get a 40K a year job in DEI at a non-profit. It takes a pretty big trust fund to fund a 18 year old for life- I hope its got 8+ figures in it if she will never have to be self sufficient.

Until recently, that was all biomedical studies, cell, animal and human... right down to, amazingly, the first study to determine whether hormone supplementation would be of benefit to menopausal women. Man Studies also includes virtually all safety studies -- from medicines, to chemicals, to crash test dummies, to stab vests, to PPE. It also includes design and engineering -- the size of phones and toilets, the spacing of keys on pianos, the temperature settings for building. Just to name a few.

Thank you for posting actual data vs. the empty-headed reactionary ideologues.

The problem is that Gender Studies does little to nothing to address the very real issues described by the PP. If some one really does want to improve the safety of things like how medicine or PPE impacts women, they get a degree in medicine or a related field. Not gender studies where they study Judith Butler and other post modern nonsense.

You have to understand the very real issues first, in a historical, critical, and well-theorized manner, before you can take steps to address them in a chosen field. Which could be just about anything, given how systemic and pervasive sexism is.

Exactly. Bio and Chem are not going to talk to undergrads about historic and continual sexism in medicine….

The only people who are seriously researching these issues and effecting real change are scientists, not gender studies majors.

Scientists who have no background in gender studies often have zero interest in these issues.

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Anonymous wrote:Women studies? I am a woman and I cringe. Please talk some sense into your child. Would we tell our sons to study Man Studies? It's nonsense. I understand a desire to focus on this (Im an executive in business that deals with BS from the patriarchy every day) but getting a degree IN IT is the wrong way. Get a degree in something that can be used to affect change and equality - law, software engineering, medicine, business- find a path where your child can affect change in mgmt., executive or advocacy positions with hard skills. That studies degree is worthless and she will be lucky to get a 40K a year job in DEI at a non-profit. It takes a pretty big trust fund to fund a 18 year old for life- I hope its got 8+ figures in it if she will never have to be self sufficient.

Until recently, that was all biomedical studies, cell, animal and human... right down to, amazingly, the first study to determine whether hormone supplementation would be of benefit to menopausal women. Man Studies also includes virtually all safety studies -- from medicines, to chemicals, to crash test dummies, to stab vests, to PPE. It also includes design and engineering -- the size of phones and toilets, the spacing of keys on pianos, the temperature settings for building. Just to name a few.

Thank you for posting actual data vs. the empty-headed reactionary ideologues.

The problem is that Gender Studies does little to nothing to address the very real issues described by the PP. If some one really does want to improve the safety of things like how medicine or PPE impacts women, they get a degree in medicine or a related field. Not gender studies where they study Judith Butler and other post modern nonsense.

You have to understand the very real issues first, in a historical, critical, and well-theorized manner, before you can take steps to address them in a chosen field. Which could be just about anything, given how systemic and pervasive sexism is.

Exactly. Bio and Chem are not going to talk to undergrads about historic and continual sexism in medicine….

The only people who are seriously researching these issues and effecting real change are scientists, not gender studies majors.

Scientists who have no background in gender studies often have zero interest in these issues.

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Anonymous wrote:Women studies? I am a woman and I cringe. Please talk some sense into your child. Would we tell our sons to study Man Studies? It's nonsense. I understand a desire to focus on this (Im an executive in business that deals with BS from the patriarchy every day) but getting a degree IN IT is the wrong way. Get a degree in something that can be used to affect change and equality - law, software engineering, medicine, business- find a path where your child can affect change in mgmt., executive or advocacy positions with hard skills. That studies degree is worthless and she will be lucky to get a 40K a year job in DEI at a non-profit. It takes a pretty big trust fund to fund a 18 year old for life- I hope its got 8+ figures in it if she will never have to be self sufficient.

Until recently, that was all biomedical studies, cell, animal and human... right down to, amazingly, the first study to determine whether hormone supplementation would be of benefit to menopausal women. Man Studies also includes virtually all safety studies -- from medicines, to chemicals, to crash test dummies, to stab vests, to PPE. It also includes design and engineering -- the size of phones and toilets, the spacing of keys on pianos, the temperature settings for building. Just to name a few.

Thank you for posting actual data vs. the empty-headed reactionary ideologues.

The problem is that Gender Studies does little to nothing to address the very real issues described by the PP. If some one really does want to improve the safety of things like how medicine or PPE impacts women, they get a degree in medicine or a related field. Not gender studies where they study Judith Butler and other post modern nonsense.

You have to understand the very real issues first, in a historical, critical, and well-theorized manner, before you can take steps to address them in a chosen field. Which could be just about anything, given how systemic and pervasive sexism is.

Exactly. Bio and Chem are not going to talk to undergrads about historic and continual sexism in medicine….

The only people who are seriously researching these issues and effecting real change are scientists, not gender studies majors.

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Anonymous wrote:Women studies? I am a woman and I cringe. Please talk some sense into your child. Would we tell our sons to study Man Studies? It's nonsense. I understand a desire to focus on this (Im an executive in business that deals with BS from the patriarchy every day) but getting a degree IN IT is the wrong way. Get a degree in something that can be used to affect change and equality - law, software engineering, medicine, business- find a path where your child can affect change in mgmt., executive or advocacy positions with hard skills. That studies degree is worthless and she will be lucky to get a 40K a year job in DEI at a non-profit. It takes a pretty big trust fund to fund a 18 year old for life- I hope its got 8+ figures in it if she will never have to be self sufficient.

Until recently, that was all biomedical studies, cell, animal and human... right down to, amazingly, the first study to determine whether hormone supplementation would be of benefit to menopausal women. Man Studies also includes virtually all safety studies -- from medicines, to chemicals, to crash test dummies, to stab vests, to PPE. It also includes design and engineering -- the size of phones and toilets, the spacing of keys on pianos, the temperature settings for building. Just to name a few.

Thank you for posting actual data vs. the empty-headed reactionary ideologues.

The problem is that Gender Studies does little to nothing to address the very real issues described by the PP. If some one really does want to improve the safety of things like how medicine or PPE impacts women, they get a degree in medicine or a related field. Not gender studies where they study Judith Butler and other post modern nonsense.

You have to understand the very real issues first, in a historical, critical, and well-theorized manner, before you can take steps to address them in a chosen field. Which could be just about anything, given how systemic and pervasive sexism is.

Exactly. Bio and Chem are not going to talk to undergrads about historic and continual sexism in medicine….