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Anonymous wrote:This reminds me of the kids who “publish” (I.e. their parents pay a prof to “work” with their kid and put their name on a paper).

Pretty sure no professors would go for this as a paid arrangement. Come on!

Junior assistant professors and lecturers do.

The big name New York private college counselors facilitate this for your kid….yes it happens. Quite easy tbh.

Remember who is reading the application. It’s usually mid to late 20s woman (super-liberal/woke) who majored in a soft major likely at that same institution. She’s not going to do deep research on whether or not this professor at a random - sometimes no name or lower ranked uni is reputable or not.

Ask me how I know.

OK I'll bite. Details please.

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Anonymous wrote:The high school non-profit founding scam was still working with the Ivies during the last admission season. I have seen it. Believing it is over is unfortunately wishful thinking.

Tell us how you saw it.

Tell us how you knew it was a scam and the AO didn't.

Tell us how you knew that was the reason the applicant was admitted.

You can't provide evidence for any of those things. You didn't see the application, the AO didn't tell you anything, you are making this up.

you should read the selingo book. it's outlined in there with plenty of evidence

I asked this poster about their claim that they saw it personally. Are you the PP?

I'm not PP but I'm honestly surprised by anyone who hasn't see this personally

Then tell me how you know the charity got them admitted, please.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The high school non-profit founding scam was still working with the Ivies during the last admission season. I have seen it. Believing it is over is unfortunately wishful thinking.

Tell us how you saw it.

Tell us how you knew it was a scam and the AO didn't.

Tell us how you knew that was the reason the applicant was admitted.

You can't provide evidence for any of those things. You didn't see the application, the AO didn't tell you anything, you are making this up.

you should read the selingo book. it's outlined in there with plenty of evidence

I asked this poster about their claim that they saw it personally. Are you the PP?

I'm not PP but I'm honestly surprised by anyone who hasn't see this personally

Anonymous wrote:The high school non-profit founding scam was still working with the Ivies during the last admission season. I have seen it. Believing it is over is unfortunately wishful thinking.

An acquaintance set one of these up for one of their offspring. It was so obviously a ploy.

Anonymous wrote:Every year countless nonprofits are founded by high schoolers, only never to be heard of after they graduate, am I missing the point here or are these just resume fillers?

Only the most impressive students do this.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The high school non-profit founding scam was still working with the Ivies during the last admission season. I have seen it. Believing it is over is unfortunately wishful thinking.

Tell us how you saw it.

Tell us how you knew it was a scam and the AO didn't.

Tell us how you knew that was the reason the applicant was admitted.

You can't provide evidence for any of those things. You didn't see the application, the AO didn't tell you anything, you are making this up.

you should read the selingo book. it's outlined in there with plenty of evidence

I asked this poster about their claim that they saw it personally. Are you the PP?

Hustle is hustle. Pretty easy from the sidelines to observe that the student with slightly lower grades and a charity, muscled out a peer with better stats. But this is the same person who will muscle out competition in everything else. The school made the correct call.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This reminds me of the kids who “publish” (I.e. their parents pay a prof to “work” with their kid and put their name on a paper).

Pretty sure no professors would go for this as a paid arrangement. Come on!

Junior assistant professors and lecturers do.

The big name New York private college counselors facilitate this for your kid….yes it happens. Quite easy tbh.

Remember who is reading the application. It’s usually mid to late 20s woman (super-liberal/woke) who majored in a soft major likely at that same institution. She’s not going to do deep research on whether or not this professor at a random - sometimes no name or lower ranked uni is reputable or not.

Ask me how I know.

i've seen it work as recently as last cycle

Anonymous wrote:The nonprofit approach to admissions is outdated.

+1

Time is better spent volunteering for an established non-profit doing actual hands on work that makes a difference.

Anonymous wrote:people, the average tenure of an AO post-covid is 18 months. they idea that these 24 year olds who ended up someone working for the college they graduated from because that's where they did their works study during undergrad have "seen it all" is laughable.

read Inside Higher Ed

Honestly, I think that would make them more savvy because it would have been their friends (or themselves) doing these things!

Our experience was that there were a few that were meh or the parent in our magnet community -- all high flyer kids. One was started when kid was in MS by the parent, and she operated in the kid's name. We all figured it out because we knew the parent from a school service org (she was heavily involved and took some of the school's donors when she started the "kid's" charity) and because even though the emails came "from" the kid, if you responded, it was the mom who would write back. Always. And, the mom negotiated w/ donors etc. But, the kid was a really nice person, and their name stopped appearing on communication a few years later, and they went to state school, so I am guessing that the kid did not list this as their personal start up.

The meh ones were all online tutoring during covid. My kid signed up to help and was never assigned a kid. I don't think there was a need because our school district had free tutoring available. I don't know how these kids represented this on apps, but they did have a nice website.

I'm not too stressed about it. I think AOs are wise to this stuff. Do they catch everything? Maybe not. But, they are going to know that some things would need adult help and others are duplicates of existing services. They're also consider a lot of other factors on the app. Some schools choose random accepted students to verify all their ECs. I've read some student posts on reddit of panicked kids who can't get a club affiliation verified.

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Anonymous wrote:This reminds me of the kids who “publish” (I.e. their parents pay a prof to “work” with their kid and put their name on a paper).

Pretty sure no professors would go for this as a paid arrangement. Come on!

you're cute.

https://www.propublica.org/article/college-high-school-research-peer-review-publications#:~:text=Scholar%20Launch%2C%20which%20started%20in,and%20enhance%20their%20college%20applications.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This reminds me of the kids who “publish” (I.e. their parents pay a prof to “work” with their kid and put their name on a paper).

Pretty sure no professors would go for this as a paid arrangement. Come on!

Junior assistant professors and lecturers do.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The high school non-profit founding scam was still working with the Ivies during the last admission season. I have seen it. Believing it is over is unfortunately wishful thinking.

Tell us how you saw it.

Tell us how you knew it was a scam and the AO didn't.

Tell us how you knew that was the reason the applicant was admitted.

You can't provide evidence for any of those things. You didn't see the application, the AO didn't tell you anything, you are making this up.

you should read the selingo book. it's outlined in there with plenty of evidence

Anonymous wrote:The high school non-profit founding scam was still working with the Ivies during the last admission season. I have seen it. Believing it is over is unfortunately wishful thinking.

Tell us how you saw it.

Tell us how you knew it was a scam and the AO didn't.

Tell us how you knew that was the reason the applicant was admitted.

You can't provide evidence for any of those things. You didn't see the application, the AO didn't tell you anything, you are making this up.