Anonymous wrote:For what it's worth, I know an unhooked white kid who got into Princeton AE this year as a test optional applicant. So there's at least one unicorn out there....

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For what it's worth, I know an unhooked white kid who got into Princeton AE this year as a test optional applicant. So there's at least one unicorn out there....

a lot of top 20 ranked LACs are definitely attainable for standard strong kids, such as:

Hamilton
Haverford
Grinnell
Carleton
Wesleyan

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Anonymous wrote:What if you are 4.0 UW, 12 APs, all 5s on APs, 2 years post BC Calc, with strong ECs...what is possible...If you are saying "standard strong" is 3.85 UW, 8 APs

That’s why it’s important to define standard strong before throwing out names. Your student is strong. Better than standard strong.

Yet no guarantee here. I’ve known plenty of kids over the last 4 years not have ED success and have “better than a standard strong” stats.

Do these kids end up getting into good choices in RD?

If it is a private- less APs are offered. 8 is high at many privates that have prerequisites to entry to APs (honors regular course first, etc). Colleges know the rigor of the HSs.

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Anonymous wrote:What if you are 4.0 UW, 12 APs, all 5s on APs, 2 years post BC Calc, with strong ECs...what is possible...If you are saying "standard strong" is 3.85 UW, 8 APs

That’s why it’s important to define standard strong before throwing out names. Your student is strong. Better than standard strong.

Yet no guarantee here. I’ve known plenty of kids over the last 4 years not have ED success and have “better than a standard strong” stats.

Do these kids end up getting into good choices in RD?

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Anonymous wrote:Assuming full suite of GPA, test scores, and strong but not recruited ECs.

I'd say
UChicago ED
Wash U (st louis)
Vandy
Brown ED
ND
Service Academies
JHU
Northwestern ED

Not sure about Hopkins. 47% of class of 2027 was white and Asian. https://apply.jhu.edu/fast-facts/

FYI: The final count (who showed up in fall 2023) was 50.7%. Also, the majority of International students are from China.
Source: https://oir.jhu.edu/

OK, JHU's class of 2027 was comprised of 50% URM or international students.

They are 19% white. Very low given demographics in the US.

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Georgetown?

Hell no!

You should see the candidates that didn't get in EA this year. Straight A, perfect test scores, loads of ECs, etc.

They had a 5% acceptance rate for Colleges of Arts and Science this year is what I heard.

Let's see how RD shakes out. There's no advantage to applying to Georgetown early, historically ~10% admit rate either way.

Yes. But it is my kid’s first choice so kid didn’t want to ED somewhere else. I did hear a lot of deferred get spring acceptances- fingers crossed.

I also was told by neighbors (both alums) that its legacy and faculty kids (ton of them in this area) and athletes that fill most of the EA slots. They sometimes take less overall in the early round.

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Georgetown?

Hell no!

You should see the candidates that didn't get in EA this year. Straight A, perfect test scores, loads of ECs, etc.

They had a 5% acceptance rate for Colleges of Arts and Science this year is what I heard.

Let's see how RD shakes out. There's no advantage to applying to Georgetown early, historically ~10% admit rate either way.

Right, G'town does not play the early admission game many other colleges do.

Which makes sense, since EAs aren't required to commit to them.

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Georgetown?

Hell no!

You should see the candidates that didn't get in EA this year. Straight A, perfect test scores, loads of ECs, etc.

They had a 5% acceptance rate for Colleges of Arts and Science this year is what I heard.

Let's see how RD shakes out. There's no advantage to applying to Georgetown early, historically ~10% admit rate either way.

Right, G'town does not play the early admission game many other colleges do.

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Anonymous wrote:Assuming full suite of GPA, test scores, and strong but not recruited ECs.

I'd say
UChicago ED
Wash U (st louis)
Vandy
Brown ED
ND
Service Academies
JHU
Northwestern ED

Not sure about Hopkins. 47% of class of 2027 was white and Asian. https://apply.jhu.edu/fast-facts/

FYI: The final count (who showed up in fall 2023) was 50.7%. Also, the majority of International students are from China.
Source: https://oir.jhu.edu/

OK, JHU's class of 2027 was comprised of 50% URM or international students.

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Georgetown?

Hell no!

You should see the candidates that didn't get in EA this year. Straight A, perfect test scores, loads of ECs, etc.

They had a 5% acceptance rate for Colleges of Arts and Science this year is what I heard.

Let's see how RD shakes out. There's no advantage to applying to Georgetown early, historically ~10% admit rate either way.

I'm not sure if it's been mentioned previously, but I recall that the admission likelihood is nearly twice as strong for male applicants as female ones at Brown. I think it's something around 4% vs. 7.5%. So, still miniscule odds either way, but somehow worse for women.

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Georgetown?

Hell no!

You should see the candidates that didn't get in EA this year. Straight A, perfect test scores, loads of ECs, etc.

They had a 5% acceptance rate for Colleges of Arts and Science this year is what I heard.

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Georgetown?

Hell no!

You should see the candidates that didn't get in EA this year. Straight A, perfect test scores, loads of ECs, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:What if you are 4.0 UW, 12 APs, all 5s on APs, 2 years post BC Calc, with strong ECs...what is possible...If you are saying "standard strong" is 3.85 UW, 8 APs

That’s why it’s important to define standard strong before throwing out names. Your student is strong. Better than standard strong.

Yet no guarantee here. I’ve known plenty of kids over the last 4 years not have ED success and have “better than a standard strong” stats.