Anonymous
Post 01/02/2024 15:19     Subject: Did you gather in large groups for the holidays? A virus may be your post-holiday present

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Anonymous wrote:You're asking highly selfish people if they're going to party and then self isolate? The answer is no, no they are not.


So your take is it's highly selfish to gather and celebrate for holidays and then carry on with our lives afterward. You mean the behavior that humanity has been engaging in since the dawn of time.

Community and connection are canceled folks. The way to a long and healthy life is to avoid all the people. Bonus points for spending the holidays with as few people as possible and then having a job that allows you to sit at home alone afterward too. This is evidence-based advice.


No one has suggested avoiding socialization. The article doesn't say that, nor have prior posters mentioned isolating or avoiding holiday gatherings. The idea is that we might want to be mindful of others following high-risk activities, especially if we will be around vulnerable people in the week following those high-risk activities.


Why are holiday gatherings considered "high risk" activities, but other things we do every day, that may involve being in contact with even more people, are not? My kids are in class with 20+ kids and see even more in the lunch room, recess, and aftercare. My spouse works in person every day and takes the metro. We attend church and went to see a play last week. None of this makes sense anymore.



These articles/posts/tweets are invariably written by WFH professionals who don’t have kids in school. To them, taking a plane to a family party with 10 people is the biggest exposure they have all year.
Anonymous
Post 01/02/2024 15:18     Subject: Did you gather in large groups for the holidays? A virus may be your post-holiday present

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Anonymous wrote:You're asking highly selfish people if they're going to party and then self isolate? The answer is no, no they are not.


So your take is it's highly selfish to gather and celebrate for holidays and then carry on with our lives afterward. You mean the behavior that humanity has been engaging in since the dawn of time.

Community and connection are canceled folks. The way to a long and healthy life is to avoid all the people. Bonus points for spending the holidays with as few people as possible and then having a job that allows you to sit at home alone afterward too. This is evidence-based advice.


No one has suggested avoiding socialization. The article doesn't say that, nor have prior posters mentioned isolating or avoiding holiday gatherings. The idea is that we might want to be mindful of others following high-risk activities, especially if we will be around vulnerable people in the week following those high-risk activities.


Did you even read the article? "If you're partying, avoid close contact with high risk people". Why is partying any different than going to work, school, restaurants, etc? So we should either avoid all those places or avoid close contact with others who may or may not be high risk, how can tell? This fear mongering isn't going to work, nobody is going to stay home like its 2020.


It is the same logic that was applied to most peaceful protest and children playing basketball at the outdoor high school courts. One was permissible because it was politically expedient and the other was surely going to kill grandma.


Exactly. Normal people won't be duped again.


Normal people who are not psychopaths care about others. And can stay home for a few days if sick, or exposed.
You're clearly not normal and are a selfish, entitled psycho. So just own it.


Stay home if sick, sure. But avoid contact with everyone if you go to work, school, church, gym, etc. No. Not happening. We know you're the unhinged one.
Anonymous
Post 01/02/2024 15:16     Subject: Did you gather in large groups for the holidays? A virus may be your post-holiday present

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Anonymous wrote:Duh. This is not news. Its also not a big deal. We had a lovely holiday break; traveled, partied, enjoyed festivities, saw all of the people. One of my kids is home sick today with a fever. I feel sad for him but would in no way suggest that we shouldn't have celebrated, nor do I feel any need to isolate for those of us in the house who arent yet sick. Im in the office today. Such is life.


Do you test for COVID? I'm assuming the answer is no.


You say this like its an activity that needs to be practiced regularly, which is super weird.

Ive had covid only once, in 2022 and yes my whole family tested. We were all obviously ill. I will not test myself right now because im not sick. I will not test my son because hes a kid and kids get random fevers and then get better. If everyone in my house came down with obvious symptoms that lasted more than 48 hours, yes I would test. Otherwise, no I dont see anything to gain in doing so.


I guess your weird and my weird are different because we focus on different things. You think you have nothing to gain by having your kid test for COVID, and if you wouldn't do anything differently yourself if the test was positive, then you have nothing to gain. Personally, I think it's weird to potentially expose my co-workers to COVID when I know one of my kids is sick after we, as a family, engaged in a host of high-risk activities at a time when high levels of COVID (and other illnesses) are circulating.


Serious question here - prior to Covid, would you have stayed home if your kid had the flu but you felt fine? What about if you had a cold that might have been the flu or another virus? Lots of employers didn't give sick time for those situations. Do they give sick time now?

And testing healthy people for a potential illness was never a thing pre-Covid. Nobody got a flu test just because their family member had the flu.

One of the weirdest things about he Covid hysteria was how we acted like perfectly healthy people were covered in smallpox sores. It was just bizarre.


I didn't suggest that the parent should test; just asked whether she tested her SYMPTOMATIC kid.


Covid tests cost like $12. I’m not spending that money to test for every cold anymore. And neither is anyone else.
Anonymous
Post 01/02/2024 15:10     Subject: Did you gather in large groups for the holidays? A virus may be your post-holiday present

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:You're asking highly selfish people if they're going to party and then self isolate? The answer is no, no they are not.


So your take is it's highly selfish to gather and celebrate for holidays and then carry on with our lives afterward. You mean the behavior that humanity has been engaging in since the dawn of time.

Community and connection are canceled folks. The way to a long and healthy life is to avoid all the people. Bonus points for spending the holidays with as few people as possible and then having a job that allows you to sit at home alone afterward too. This is evidence-based advice.


No one has suggested avoiding socialization. The article doesn't say that, nor have prior posters mentioned isolating or avoiding holiday gatherings. The idea is that we might want to be mindful of others following high-risk activities, especially if we will be around vulnerable people in the week following those high-risk activities.


Did you even read the article? "If you're partying, avoid close contact with high risk people". Why is partying any different than going to work, school, restaurants, etc? So we should either avoid all those places or avoid close contact with others who may or may not be high risk, how can tell? This fear mongering isn't going to work, nobody is going to stay home like its 2020.


It is the same logic that was applied to most peaceful protest and children playing basketball at the outdoor high school courts. One was permissible because it was politically expedient and the other was surely going to kill grandma.


Exactly. Normal people won't be duped again.


Normal people who are not psychopaths care about others. And can stay home for a few days if sick, or exposed.
You're clearly not normal and are a selfish, entitled psycho. So just own it.
Anonymous
Post 01/02/2024 15:09     Subject: Did you gather in large groups for the holidays? A virus may be your post-holiday present

Anonymous wrote:Did you gather in large groups for the holidays? A virus may be your post-holiday present.

Per CNN medical expert Dr. Leana Wen, "You could be infected and asymptomatic. You could also be pre-symptomatic, meaning that you could be contagious and could develop symptoms in the days to come. Don’t take the chance of getting someone else sick. It’s best to avoid close contact with vulnerable individuals in the week or so after your high-exposure events."

How may of you are going to self isolate?


On Christmas eve and day, yes. As well as a few parties leading up tot he day. But nothing after Christmas. My DH and I were both sick but we basically stayed home and Covid test was negative (we were feeling bad so going out wasn't happening). SoOOOOO many people are sick right now. It's crazy.
Anonymous
Post 01/02/2024 15:07     Subject: Did you gather in large groups for the holidays? A virus may be your post-holiday present

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:You're asking highly selfish people if they're going to party and then self isolate? The answer is no, no they are not.


So your take is it's highly selfish to gather and celebrate for holidays and then carry on with our lives afterward. You mean the behavior that humanity has been engaging in since the dawn of time.

Community and connection are canceled folks. The way to a long and healthy life is to avoid all the people. Bonus points for spending the holidays with as few people as possible and then having a job that allows you to sit at home alone afterward too. This is evidence-based advice.


No one has suggested avoiding socialization. The article doesn't say that, nor have prior posters mentioned isolating or avoiding holiday gatherings. The idea is that we might want to be mindful of others following high-risk activities, especially if we will be around vulnerable people in the week following those high-risk activities.


Did you even read the article? "If you're partying, avoid close contact with high risk people". Why is partying any different than going to work, school, restaurants, etc? So we should either avoid all those places or avoid close contact with others who may or may not be high risk, how can tell? This fear mongering isn't going to work, nobody is going to stay home like its 2020.


It is the same logic that was applied to most peaceful protest and children playing basketball at the outdoor high school courts. One was permissible because it was politically expedient and the other was surely going to kill grandma.


Exactly. Normal people won't be duped again.
Anonymous
Post 01/02/2024 15:06     Subject: Re:Did you gather in large groups for the holidays? A virus may be your post-holiday present

Anonymous wrote:If you are vulnerable person (self-defined, of course), make sure you are up to date on your vaccines and have a primary doctor who can prescribe paxlovid for you quickly. If that doesn't feel like enough, you should self-isolate for a week after the holidays.

Best to control what you can control in this world, which is your self. Asking the humans to stop doing the human-like things seems pretty proven not to work at this point.


+1 I'm medically vulnerable. We got together with a small group of people for the holidays and I wore a mask. No one else did. I avoided large crowds. Done. If others want to do large gatherings, avoid masks, etc. that's their choice. I'm not a selfish cow who thinks the world revolves around me. I control what I can control.
Anonymous
Post 01/02/2024 15:05     Subject: Did you gather in large groups for the holidays? A virus may be your post-holiday present

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You're asking highly selfish people if they're going to party and then self isolate? The answer is no, no they are not.


So your take is it's highly selfish to gather and celebrate for holidays and then carry on with our lives afterward. You mean the behavior that humanity has been engaging in since the dawn of time.

Community and connection are canceled folks. The way to a long and healthy life is to avoid all the people. Bonus points for spending the holidays with as few people as possible and then having a job that allows you to sit at home alone afterward too. This is evidence-based advice.


No one has suggested avoiding socialization. The article doesn't say that, nor have prior posters mentioned isolating or avoiding holiday gatherings. The idea is that we might want to be mindful of others following high-risk activities, especially if we will be around vulnerable people in the week following those high-risk activities.


Why are holiday gatherings considered "high risk" activities, but other things we do every day, that may involve being in contact with even more people, are not? My kids are in class with 20+ kids and see even more in the lunch room, recess, and aftercare. My spouse works in person every day and takes the metro. We attend church and went to see a play last week. None of this makes sense anymore.

Anonymous
Post 01/02/2024 15:00     Subject: Did you gather in large groups for the holidays? A virus may be your post-holiday present

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You're asking highly selfish people if they're going to party and then self isolate? The answer is no, no they are not.


So your take is it's highly selfish to gather and celebrate for holidays and then carry on with our lives afterward. You mean the behavior that humanity has been engaging in since the dawn of time.

Community and connection are canceled folks. The way to a long and healthy life is to avoid all the people. Bonus points for spending the holidays with as few people as possible and then having a job that allows you to sit at home alone afterward too. This is evidence-based advice.


No one has suggested avoiding socialization. The article doesn't say that, nor have prior posters mentioned isolating or avoiding holiday gatherings. The idea is that we might want to be mindful of others following high-risk activities, especially if we will be around vulnerable people in the week following those high-risk activities.


Did you even read the article? "If you're partying, avoid close contact with high risk people". Why is partying any different than going to work, school, restaurants, etc? So we should either avoid all those places or avoid close contact with others who may or may not be high risk, how can tell? This fear mongering isn't going to work, nobody is going to stay home like its 2020.


It is the same logic that was applied to most peaceful protest and children playing basketball at the outdoor high school courts. One was permissible because it was politically expedient and the other was surely going to kill grandma.
Anonymous
Post 01/02/2024 14:56     Subject: Re:Did you gather in large groups for the holidays? A virus may be your post-holiday present

Anonymous wrote:If you are vulnerable person (self-defined, of course), make sure you are up to date on your vaccines and have a primary doctor who can prescribe paxlovid for you quickly. If that doesn't feel like enough, you should self-isolate for a week after the holidays.




Oh, y'all aren't going to be done with this in a week. LOL
Anonymous
Post 01/02/2024 14:54     Subject: Did you gather in large groups for the holidays? A virus may be your post-holiday present

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Duh. This is not news. Its also not a big deal. We had a lovely holiday break; traveled, partied, enjoyed festivities, saw all of the people. One of my kids is home sick today with a fever. I feel sad for him but would in no way suggest that we shouldn't have celebrated, nor do I feel any need to isolate for those of us in the house who arent yet sick. Im in the office today. Such is life.


Do you test for COVID? I'm assuming the answer is no.


You say this like its an activity that needs to be practiced regularly, which is super weird.

Ive had covid only once, in 2022 and yes my whole family tested. We were all obviously ill. I will not test myself right now because im not sick. I will not test my son because hes a kid and kids get random fevers and then get better. If everyone in my house came down with obvious symptoms that lasted more than 48 hours, yes I would test. Otherwise, no I dont see anything to gain in doing so.


I guess your weird and my weird are different because we focus on different things. You think you have nothing to gain by having your kid test for COVID, and if you wouldn't do anything differently yourself if the test was positive, then you have nothing to gain. Personally, I think it's weird to potentially expose my co-workers to COVID when I know one of my kids is sick after we, as a family, engaged in a host of high-risk activities at a time when high levels of COVID (and other illnesses) are circulating.


The idea that you see getting together as a high-risk activity is all anyone needs to know.

You and your kids have a higher chance of getting shot in DC than dying of Covid.

DP
Anonymous
Post 01/02/2024 14:44     Subject: Did you gather in large groups for the holidays? A virus may be your post-holiday present

Anonymous wrote:Do orgies count?


That is why I always insist on reverse cowgirl.
Anonymous
Post 01/02/2024 14:37     Subject: Re:Did you gather in large groups for the holidays? A virus may be your post-holiday present

If you are vulnerable person (self-defined, of course), make sure you are up to date on your vaccines and have a primary doctor who can prescribe paxlovid for you quickly. If that doesn't feel like enough, you should self-isolate for a week after the holidays.

Best to control what you can control in this world, which is your self. Asking the humans to stop doing the human-like things seems pretty proven not to work at this point.

Anonymous
Post 01/02/2024 14:35     Subject: Did you gather in large groups for the holidays? A virus may be your post-holiday present

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Doesn't this happen every year since the dawn of time? Get a bunch of people together and someone will get sick with something.

I just don't get why this is a concern now.


Bec people are dying you idiot

Polio is trending thanks to you stupid stupid idiots


DP. No, polio is trending due to antivaxxers.
Anonymous
Post 01/02/2024 14:33     Subject: Did you gather in large groups for the holidays? A virus may be your post-holiday present

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Duh. This is not news. Its also not a big deal. We had a lovely holiday break; traveled, partied, enjoyed festivities, saw all of the people. One of my kids is home sick today with a fever. I feel sad for him but would in no way suggest that we shouldn't have celebrated, nor do I feel any need to isolate for those of us in the house who arent yet sick. Im in the office today. Such is life.


Do you test for COVID? I'm assuming the answer is no.


You say this like its an activity that needs to be practiced regularly, which is super weird.

Ive had covid only once, in 2022 and yes my whole family tested. We were all obviously ill. I will not test myself right now because im not sick. I will not test my son because hes a kid and kids get random fevers and then get better. If everyone in my house came down with obvious symptoms that lasted more than 48 hours, yes I would test. Otherwise, no I dont see anything to gain in doing so.


I guess your weird and my weird are different because we focus on different things. You think you have nothing to gain by having your kid test for COVID, and if you wouldn't do anything differently yourself if the test was positive, then you have nothing to gain. Personally, I think it's weird to potentially expose my co-workers to COVID when I know one of my kids is sick after we, as a family, engaged in a host of high-risk activities at a time when high levels of COVID (and other illnesses) are circulating.


Serious question here - prior to Covid, would you have stayed home if your kid had the flu but you felt fine? What about if you had a cold that might have been the flu or another virus? Lots of employers didn't give sick time for those situations. Do they give sick time now?


First of all, COVID is not the same as the flu. I never said that the OP should have stayed home. I would not have stayed home before COVID, and I would not necessarily stay home now if I wasn't sick. I would, however, definitely wear a mask, especially if I knew that my kid had COVID, to avoid making my co-workers sick.


Wait, are you implying that covid (as it exists now, not 2020 covid) is more serious than flu? Really??
You do realize that people die from flu as well, right?