Anonymous
12/29/2023 17:04
Subject: Re:How to get around teen freezing Life 360
Anonymous wrote:iAnonymous wrote:
I have to say that this "people parented without tracking for generations" argument is incredibly weak. There may be other reasons not to track, but this ain't it.
People also raised children for generations without:
1. seatbelts
2. baby monitors
3. helmets
4. online access to grades
5. cell phones with GPS/find my friend
6. and more
7. ring or other security cameras
My entire family shares location through an app. We don't do it because we don't trust each other. We do it because it is convenient to occasionally check to see when people may arrive and to be able to locate them in the event of an emergency. It is a convenience and a safety precaution that we all share with each other.
Frankly, I think most of those are unnecessary. The only ones I think are a positive development are seatbelts and helmets. The rest are just panaceas for anxious, controlling, overprotective parents. They don’t actually make kids safer.
I think you are missing the convenience factor.
I mentioned that my whole family shares location. Many of these kids also share location with a group of friends using L360 or even Snapchat.
It is convenient and has the potential to help in a case of emergency.
Two examples:
- My elderly parents got separated while driving back from the beach. My mom does not know how to use a GPS. I was able to locate her using L360 and lead my dad to her.
- My son was walking home from school as he usually does. It was cold and I had a break in my day, so I drove directly to him as a bit of a surprise. He was pleasantly surprised and happy.
Nothing anxious, overprotective, or controlling going on.
Anonymous
12/29/2023 16:57
Subject: How to get around teen freezing Life 360
Anonymous wrote:My 15yr old snuck out last year and got into a car accident with their 16yr old friends It was a scary time. I agree with tracking
Did the tracking app save them from the car accident?
Anonymous
12/29/2023 16:57
Subject: Re:How to get around teen freezing Life 360
iAnonymous wrote:
I have to say that this "people parented without tracking for generations" argument is incredibly weak. There may be other reasons not to track, but this ain't it.
People also raised children for generations without:
1. seatbelts
2. baby monitors
3. helmets
4. online access to grades
5. cell phones with GPS/find my friend
6. and more
7. ring or other security cameras
My entire family shares location through an app. We don't do it because we don't trust each other. We do it because it is convenient to occasionally check to see when people may arrive and to be able to locate them in the event of an emergency. It is a convenience and a safety precaution that we all share with each other.
Frankly, I think most of those are unnecessary. The only ones I think are a positive development are seatbelts and helmets. The rest are just panaceas for anxious, controlling, overprotective parents. They don’t actually make kids safer.
Anonymous
12/29/2023 16:56
Subject: Re:How to get around teen freezing Life 360
Anonymous wrote:
For a difficult teen you don’t tell them, and the point is to see if the air tag is tracking at the same places as Life360.
And where to you sneak the magical air tag, in their underwear?
Our kid carries nothing with them besides a phone when going out. No car either (uber/lyft or public transport)
Anonymous
12/29/2023 16:52
Subject: How to get around teen freezing Life 360
My 15yr old snuck out last year and got into a car accident with their 16yr old friends It was a scary time. I agree with tracking
Anonymous
12/29/2023 16:36
Subject: How to get around teen freezing Life 360
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How about telling your kid that if they do that again, they lose their phone for a week.
This and shut off the phone via the service.
Solves NOTHING. They sneak out without the phone and you're left still not knowing where they are. Happy now?
Stop tracking.
Anonymous
12/29/2023 16:34
Subject: Re:How to get around teen freezing Life 360
I have to say that this "people parented without tracking for generations" argument is incredibly weak. There may be other reasons not to track, but this ain't it.
People also raised children for generations without:
1. seatbelts
2. baby monitors
3. helmets
4. online access to grades
5. cell phones with GPS/find my friend
6. and more
7. ring or other security cameras
My entire family shares location through an app. We don't do it because we don't trust each other. We do it because it is convenient to occasionally check to see when people may arrive and to be able to locate them in the event of an emergency. It is a convenience and a safety precaution that we all share with each other.
Anonymous
12/29/2023 16:30
Subject: How to get around teen freezing Life 360
Anonymous wrote:How about telling your kid that if they do that again, they lose their phone for a week.
This and shut off the phone via the service.
Anonymous
12/29/2023 16:30
Subject: How to get around teen freezing Life 360
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP I am there with you. My kid sneaks out and I can’t control it. They freeze locations, get around our security system, and now I am scared they are getting around the drug tests. The problem is they hang with other kids with poor family lives that don’t have rules/curfews and think they shouldn’t either.
And how does tracking them FIX THIS?
Answer: it doesn't
Don't rely on a false solution that only escalates the problem.
If you are worried about your child's physical safety, knowing where they are can help locate them if they do not return home and help a parent know if they should get them out of a place/situation they should not be in.
Anonymous
12/29/2023 16:26
Subject: How to get around teen freezing Life 360
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We simply now have the tools to invade teen’s privacy in ways no one has before, and it is super tempting to use those tools, even if they don’t keep our kids any safer.
Yup
Anonymous
12/29/2023 16:24
Subject: How to get around teen freezing Life 360
Anonymous wrote:OP I am there with you. My kid sneaks out and I can’t control it. They freeze locations, get around our security system, and now I am scared they are getting around the drug tests. The problem is they hang with other kids with poor family lives that don’t have rules/curfews and think they shouldn’t either.
And how does tracking them FIX THIS?
Answer: it doesn't
Don't rely on a false solution that only escalates the problem.
Anonymous
12/29/2023 16:22
Subject: How to get around teen freezing Life 360
Anonymous wrote:Seriously stop tracking your kid. People parented for thousands of years without doing this.
+1,000
Anonymous
12/29/2023 16:13
Subject: How to get around teen freezing Life 360
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Seriously stop tracking your kid. People parented for thousands of years without doing this.
My kid is 14 so no
They don’t drive so your tracking their walking?
Are you kidding pp
Tracking whether they are sneaking out. Or really at a friends house. Or really at a sleepover, or really studying at home (if you are elsewhere)
Some teens lie and sneak. I have 3 of them and 1 is trying to break the rules every darn day. So I get it.
That's a trust issue, not an app issue.
And your point is what?
Anonymous
12/29/2023 16:06
Subject: How to get around teen freezing Life 360
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Seriously stop tracking your kid. People parented for thousands of years without doing this.
My kid is 14 so no
They don’t drive so your tracking their walking?
Are you kidding pp
Tracking whether they are sneaking out. Or really at a friends house. Or really at a sleepover, or really studying at home (if you are elsewhere)
Some teens lie and sneak. I have 3 of them and 1 is trying to break the rules every darn day. So I get it.
That's a trust issue, not an app issue.
OK, so if you have a kid who has repeatedly demonstrated that they cannot be trusted, what do you do if you are concerned about their safety?
Anonymous
12/29/2023 15:42
Subject: How to get around teen freezing Life 360
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Seriously stop tracking your kid. People parented for thousands of years without doing this.
My kid is 14 so no
They don’t drive so your tracking their walking?
Are you kidding pp
Tracking whether they are sneaking out. Or really at a friends house. Or really at a sleepover, or really studying at home (if you are elsewhere)
Some teens lie and sneak. I have 3 of them and 1 is trying to break the rules every darn day. So I get it.
That's a trust issue, not an app issue.