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Anonymous wrote:isn't lived experiences redundant? Colleges should be encouraging students to be clear, concise writers by avoiding such phrases.

No, it’s not redundant. Read the thread. Plenty of explanations.

Do you have an example of a personal experience that is not a lived experience?

Lived experience refers to experiencing something yourself rather than obtaining knowledge about something passively, ie through media or secondhand.

Writing about a non-lived experience in a college essay would be ridiculous. Agree with the person above who said the word "lived" is redundant.

An "experience" is going on a mission trip to "help" people in poorer countries. Lived experience is actually growing up in those conditions. You're welcome.

The meaning is exactly the same if you take out the word lived. It’s unnecessary to make the point.

The meaning of "exactly the same" is the same if you take out the word "exactly" . It's unnecessary to make the point. Look who's the snowflake lib now!

lol!

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Anonymous wrote:Agree with observation that there is no meaningful difference between experience and lived experience. "lived experience" is technically poor grammar and redundant.

But the examples given by some people to try to pretend there is a lived experience separate from regular experience shows exactly what the essays are looking for: sob stories, aka the cult of victims.

You are a bonafide head case. I read one essay about playing scrabble with grandfather every weekend for years and eventually realizing it wasn't for fun. It was a grandfather teaching his granddaughter slowly and gently about what he thought was important.

What was important? Territory denial tactics in area control strategy? Efficient algorithms for encoding and compressing dictionaries?

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Anonymous wrote:isn't lived experiences redundant? Colleges should be encouraging students to be clear, concise writers by avoiding such phrases.

No, it’s not redundant. Read the thread. Plenty of explanations.

Do you have an example of a personal experience that is not a lived experience?

Lived experience refers to experiencing something yourself rather than obtaining knowledge about something passively, ie through media or secondhand.

Writing about a non-lived experience in a college essay would be ridiculous. Agree with the person above who said the word "lived" is redundant.

An "experience" is going on a mission trip to "help" people in poorer countries. Lived experience is actually growing up in those conditions. You're welcome.

The meaning is exactly the same if you take out the word lived. It’s unnecessary to make the point.

The meaning of "exactly the same" is the same if you take out the word "exactly" . It's unnecessary to make the point. Look who's the snowflake lib now!

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Anonymous wrote:isn't lived experiences redundant? Colleges should be encouraging students to be clear, concise writers by avoiding such phrases.

No, it’s not redundant. Read the thread. Plenty of explanations.

Do you have an example of a personal experience that is not a lived experience?

Lived experience refers to experiencing something yourself rather than obtaining knowledge about something passively, ie through media or secondhand.

Writing about a non-lived experience in a college essay would be ridiculous. Agree with the person above who said the word "lived" is redundant.

An "experience" is going on a mission trip to "help" people in poorer countries. Lived experience is actually growing up in those conditions. You're welcome.

The meaning is exactly the same if you take out the word lived. It’s unnecessary to make the point.

Damn, you must be a real joy to work with and live with.

Not college material, that much is clear.

You think anyone is going to be blown away by an essay that says "lived experience" vs one that doesn't? I'd say the person who doesn't use that is more likely to be authentic and not putting together a curated sob story heavily edited by their parents who think including "lived" will guarantee admission.

You aren't an AO so no one cares what you think of an essay.

Given all the rejections, it seems that most of your kids and their lived experiences didn't matter much either.

So weird that 10000 people can't fit into 2000 seats! I guess somebody was absent the day they taught Musical Chairs in school.

Anonymous wrote:Agree with observation that there is no meaningful difference between experience and lived experience. "lived experience" is technically poor grammar and redundant.

But the examples given by some people to try to pretend there is a lived experience separate from regular experience shows exactly what the essays are looking for: sob stories, aka the cult of victims.

You are a bonafide head case. I read one essay about playing scrabble with grandfather every weekend for years and eventually realizing it wasn't for fun. It was a grandfather teaching his granddaughter slowly and gently about what he thought was important.

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Anonymous wrote:isn't lived experiences redundant? Colleges should be encouraging students to be clear, concise writers by avoiding such phrases.

No, it’s not redundant. Read the thread. Plenty of explanations.

Do you have an example of a personal experience that is not a lived experience?

Lived experience refers to experiencing something yourself rather than obtaining knowledge about something passively, ie through media or secondhand.

Writing about a non-lived experience in a college essay would be ridiculous. Agree with the person above who said the word "lived" is redundant.

An "experience" is going on a mission trip to "help" people in poorer countries. Lived experience is actually growing up in those conditions. You're welcome.

The meaning is exactly the same if you take out the word lived. It’s unnecessary to make the point.

The meaning of "exactly the same" is the same if you take out the word "exactly" . It's unnecessary to make the point. Look who's the snowflake lib now!

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Anonymous wrote:isn't lived experiences redundant? Colleges should be encouraging students to be clear, concise writers by avoiding such phrases.

No, it’s not redundant. Read the thread. Plenty of explanations.

Do you have an example of a personal experience that is not a lived experience?

Lived experience refers to experiencing something yourself rather than obtaining knowledge about something passively, ie through media or secondhand.

Writing about a non-lived experience in a college essay would be ridiculous. Agree with the person above who said the word "lived" is redundant.

An "experience" is going on a mission trip to "help" people in poorer countries. Lived experience is actually growing up in those conditions. You're welcome.

The meaning is exactly the same if you take out the word lived. It’s unnecessary to make the point.

Damn, you must be a real joy to work with and live with.

Not college material, that much is clear.

You think anyone is going to be blown away by an essay that says "lived experience" vs one that doesn't? I'd say the person who doesn't use that is more likely to be authentic and not putting together a curated sob story heavily edited by their parents who think including "lived" will guarantee admission.

You aren't an AO so no one cares what you think of an essay.

Given all the rejections, it seems that most of your kids and their lived experiences didn't matter much either.

Anonymous wrote:"Lived experience" is an intensified expression to emphasize that it's about what happened to you, not just what you read in a book or saw in a movie. It's a way to refute people claim that something can't be true because it doesn't fit their knowledge and world view.

The rest of the furor is people hating others who experience doesn't match what the hater wants to be true.

You really underestimate people's ability to read and comprehend. They will be able to figure out that something happened to you pretty easily without the intensified expression. My arm got blown off in a war torn area means something entirely different than reading about an arm being blown off in a book. How stupid do you think these people are?

Anonymous wrote:So many people are so attached to their own story about this term. It doesn't matter that the term is a hundred years old, that it actually holds a specific meaning, that multiple posters have provided examples of what that meaning is. Still, they just keep clinging to their own story about it. Which is fine, I guess? Just seems sorta sad.

Look, I'm not going to sit here and quietly let you deny my lived experience with the term "lived experience".
I'm speaking my truth no matter what you say.

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Anonymous wrote:isn't lived experiences redundant? Colleges should be encouraging students to be clear, concise writers by avoiding such phrases.

No, it’s not redundant. Read the thread. Plenty of explanations.

Do you have an example of a personal experience that is not a lived experience?

Lived experience refers to experiencing something yourself rather than obtaining knowledge about something passively, ie through media or secondhand.

Writing about a non-lived experience in a college essay would be ridiculous. Agree with the person above who said the word "lived" is redundant.

An "experience" is going on a mission trip to "help" people in poorer countries. Lived experience is actually growing up in those conditions. You're welcome.

The meaning is exactly the same if you take out the word lived. It’s unnecessary to make the point.

Damn, you must be a real joy to work with and live with.

Not college material, that much is clear.

You think anyone is going to be blown away by an essay that says "lived experience" vs one that doesn't? I'd say the person who doesn't use that is more likely to be authentic and not putting together a curated sob story heavily edited by their parents who think including "lived" will guarantee admission.

You aren't an AO so no one cares what you think of an essay.

"Lived experience" is an intensified expression to emphasize that it's about what happened to you, not just what you read in a book or saw in a movie. It's a way to refute people claim that something can't be true because it doesn't fit their knowledge and world view.

The rest of the furor is people hating others who experience doesn't match what the hater wants to be true.

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Anonymous wrote:isn't lived experiences redundant? Colleges should be encouraging students to be clear, concise writers by avoiding such phrases.

No, it’s not redundant. Read the thread. Plenty of explanations.

Do you have an example of a personal experience that is not a lived experience?

Lived experience refers to experiencing something yourself rather than obtaining knowledge about something passively, ie through media or secondhand.

Writing about a non-lived experience in a college essay would be ridiculous. Agree with the person above who said the word "lived" is redundant.

An "experience" is going on a mission trip to "help" people in poorer countries. Lived experience is actually growing up in those conditions. You're welcome.

The meaning is exactly the same if you take out the word lived. It’s unnecessary to make the point.

Damn, you must be a real joy to work with and live with.

Not college material, that much is clear.

You think anyone is going to be blown away by an essay that says "lived experience" vs one that doesn't? I'd say the person who doesn't use that is more likely to be authentic and not putting together a curated sob story heavily edited by their parents who think including "lived" will guarantee admission.

So many people are so attached to their own story about this term. It doesn't matter that the term is a hundred years old, that it actually holds a specific meaning, that multiple posters have provided examples of what that meaning is. Still, they just keep clinging to their own story about it. Which is fine, I guess? Just seems sorta sad.

Anonymous wrote:Isn’t every experience “lived”?

What else is there “dead experiences”?

I hate these pretentious questions.

You're approaching this as an educated adult--I think the wording is supposed to highlight to a teen that they should focus on what their experiences felt like and meant to them personally--the insights they drew from them, not just give an account of good things they did or bad things that happened. Not every teen has a savvy parent or a coach to guide them through these nuances. Maybe the college noticed that when they just say experiences, there are groups of kids who write a laundry list of what they see as their achievements--or some single discrete good or bad thing that happened that they got through--but when they say "lived experiences" they get more reflections on how kids learn and draw insight from broader patterns in their life.

As an aside, though I didn't think it at the time, I now think my kid benefitted by honestly working through essays about himself in the college application process. He's mentioned points he's made since then when discussing experiences/reactions.

Agree with observation that there is no meaningful difference between experience and lived experience. "lived experience" is technically poor grammar and redundant.

But the examples given by some people to try to pretend there is a lived experience separate from regular experience shows exactly what the essays are looking for: sob stories, aka the cult of victims.