Anonymous
Post 12/12/2023 10:30     Subject: Wizards and Caps could be moving to Potomac Yard

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Awesome! I would finally go. People in this thread must all live in Maryland. Guess what, Virginia exists too!


VA residents have been attending Caps and Wizards games for decades. Sorry. The only people losing if the move were to happen will be MD residents.


Because it is in the middle of the region. Asking people from Gaithersberg or Columbia to maintain their season tickets to get to Potomac Yard 40+ night s year is a lot to ask.
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2023 10:28     Subject: Wizards and Caps could be moving to Potomac Yard

Anonymous wrote:Potomac Yard is going to become a much bigger destination over the next ~7 to 10 years, with the Metro stop opening earlier this year and the big Virginia Tech campus opening up in phases over the next few years.

What’s the latest on the big existing strip mall with the Target and Best Buy? If they redevelop that into something like The Crossing in Clarendon it could do quite well.


People from DC and the norther MD suburbs simply won;t go there.

And....DC is going to have to maintain the arena for concerts and other events, so it really does make sense for the city to foot the bill.
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2023 10:20     Subject: Wizards and Caps could be moving to Potomac Yard

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Awesome! I would finally go. People in this thread must all live in Maryland. Guess what, Virginia exists too!


VA residents have been attending Caps and Wizards games for decades. Sorry. The only people losing if the move were to happen will be MD residents.


Alexandria residents will also lose, due to the increase in traffic (and lots of crime) that this will bring.

Hard no from my neighbors and I.
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2023 10:20     Subject: Wizards and Caps could be moving to Potomac Yard

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Oh HELL no. The Maryland drivers already make driving on Rt 1 a constant shitshow. And where would it even go??


Don’t worry MD drivers won’t go to VA.


When I go to the Potomac Yard Target the lot is full of MD plates.

It’s interesting because I once stopped by the Oxon Hill, MD Target across the bridge and there were hardly any VA plates. I guess a lot of MD residents like making the trip to Potomac Yard?? Or is it because a lot of MD residents commute to NoVA for work and go by Potomac Yard on the way home?
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2023 10:18     Subject: Re:Wizards and Caps could be moving to Potomac Yard

What Ted should consider is buying a nearby building. Given the commercial real estate market, buying a building nearby would allow the office space to move there, and maybe more.
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2023 10:15     Subject: Wizards and Caps could be moving to Potomac Yard

Anonymous wrote:Awesome! I would finally go. People in this thread must all live in Maryland. Guess what, Virginia exists too!


VA residents have been attending Caps and Wizards games for decades. Sorry. The only people losing if the move were to happen will be MD residents.
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2023 10:06     Subject: Wizards and Caps could be moving to Potomac Yard

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’ll give up my season tickets. DC is pretty central and easy to get to on the Metro. I guess I’ll be saving a lot of money.


Three or four more stops down the yellow line. Not the biggest deal.


i counted six. could be extra 30 min including changing trains and walking to stadium. 1-hr both ways. that'd be a lot for many.


Okay? But will be way easier to get there by driving and Uber, and way less crime than in DC now which is an even bigger turn off. There will be plenty of NBA fans from VA that could make the games though NHL I’m less sure of.

Cities are dead in post pandemic era. Homelessness, crime, half empty offices, it’s just not a destination any more. With the rise of Uber, and self driving (and self parking) cars with cheap electric fuel, it’s just going to get worse for cities. Not to mention the endless pot smell in DC which is inescapable, at least in PY it will be spread out a bit more.



How are Uber and self-driving/parking cars bad for cities? Seems like that makes it easier to get around in a city for people who might otherwise have to drive.
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2023 09:13     Subject: Wizards and Caps could be moving to Potomac Yard

Anonymous wrote:The locals killed the football stadium and baseball stadium, I assume they'll rise up and try to kill this too. Same people who bought homes near the airport then complained about the noise.


Buying near an airport and then complaining about the noise is not the same as buying in a residential neighborhood with a shopping center and then complaining when they turn that shopping center into an arena and host events for 30k people 100 nights a year in it.
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2023 09:01     Subject: Wizards and Caps could be moving to Potomac Yard

The locals killed the football stadium and baseball stadium, I assume they'll rise up and try to kill this too. Same people who bought homes near the airport then complained about the noise.
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2023 08:55     Subject: Wizards and Caps could be moving to Potomac Yard

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Let the Commanders move to Virginia, and move the Ravens from Baltimore to Laurel. Like having the Patriots in Foxboro. Camden Yards is crime-infested and a lot of Ravens/Orioles fans do not like going there, especially if they drive. Having the Commanders in Virginia will eliminate the long-standing feud between Baltimore & DC over major league teams.


Camden Yards, M&T Bank stadium, and the Inner Harbor are all very well patrolled by police. Every time I’ve been there - I go usually twice a year in the spring/summer - lots of police are visibly out to keep the peace. Thats not to say I haven’t noticed signs of problems, one of the parking garages they recommend you park at for the aquarium always has bullet holes in the windows that are facing the street. And theres also the ever present drug zombies. But I feel safe going there during the day. I’m not in denial about crime AT ALL but I would be shocked if there was a random assault to steal someone’s Canada Goose jacket or phone or whatever during prime commuting/tourism hours … unlike in DC, apparently.

And yes, DC should be moving heaven and earth to keep the Caps at Capital One Arena because otherwise it’s the death knell of the Chinatown/Penn Quarter area.


I worked in downtown Baltimore FOR YEARS in the Galleria office floors. You're delusional if you are basing your safety on the two times a year you go to an Os game. Like full on delusional. My coworker got shot on Charles Street while going to Starbucks at 9am, but a stranger who had just gotten out of jail. When I commuted by Marc to Camden and then walked to the inner harbor I would take the raised walkway around the convention center as it is quicker than walking on the street level. Here is where you see all the strung out homeless people who sleep there, that aren't wandering around on the street. Yeah, Baltimore is safe. OMFG.

Baltimore is not Laurel and is not Alexandria. Baltimore, is Baltimore.


It’s safe enough for the tourists. It’s basically Baltimore’s equivalent of our National Mall. Outside of that though it’s a problem. Just like in DC.


It's not safe. It doesn't deter me from going to Os games but I'm not in denial. But you do you. Stay safe.
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2023 08:50     Subject: Wizards and Caps could be moving to Potomac Yard

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Let the Commanders move to Virginia, and move the Ravens from Baltimore to Laurel. Like having the Patriots in Foxboro. Camden Yards is crime-infested and a lot of Ravens/Orioles fans do not like going there, especially if they drive. Having the Commanders in Virginia will eliminate the long-standing feud between Baltimore & DC over major league teams.


Camden Yards, M&T Bank stadium, and the Inner Harbor are all very well patrolled by police. Every time I’ve been there - I go usually twice a year in the spring/summer - lots of police are visibly out to keep the peace. Thats not to say I haven’t noticed signs of problems, one of the parking garages they recommend you park at for the aquarium always has bullet holes in the windows that are facing the street. And theres also the ever present drug zombies. But I feel safe going there during the day. I’m not in denial about crime AT ALL but I would be shocked if there was a random assault to steal someone’s Canada Goose jacket or phone or whatever during prime commuting/tourism hours … unlike in DC, apparently.

And yes, DC should be moving heaven and earth to keep the Caps at Capital One Arena because otherwise it’s the death knell of the Chinatown/Penn Quarter area.


I worked in downtown Baltimore FOR YEARS in the Galleria office floors. You're delusional if you are basing your safety on the two times a year you go to an Os game. Like full on delusional. My coworker got shot on Charles Street while going to Starbucks at 9am, but a stranger who had just gotten out of jail. When I commuted by Marc to Camden and then walked to the inner harbor I would take the raised walkway around the convention center as it is quicker than walking on the street level. Here is where you see all the strung out homeless people who sleep there, that aren't wandering around on the street. Yeah, Baltimore is safe. OMFG.

Baltimore is not Laurel and is not Alexandria. Baltimore, is Baltimore.


It’s safe enough for the tourists. It’s basically Baltimore’s equivalent of our National Mall. Outside of that though it’s a problem. Just like in DC.
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2023 08:09     Subject: Wizards and Caps could be moving to Potomac Yard

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Let the Commanders move to Virginia, and move the Ravens from Baltimore to Laurel. Like having the Patriots in Foxboro. Camden Yards is crime-infested and a lot of Ravens/Orioles fans do not like going there, especially if they drive. Having the Commanders in Virginia will eliminate the long-standing feud between Baltimore & DC over major league teams.


Camden Yards, M&T Bank stadium, and the Inner Harbor are all very well patrolled by police. Every time I’ve been there - I go usually twice a year in the spring/summer - lots of police are visibly out to keep the peace. Thats not to say I haven’t noticed signs of problems, one of the parking garages they recommend you park at for the aquarium always has bullet holes in the windows that are facing the street. And theres also the ever present drug zombies. But I feel safe going there during the day. I’m not in denial about crime AT ALL but I would be shocked if there was a random assault to steal someone’s Canada Goose jacket or phone or whatever during prime commuting/tourism hours … unlike in DC, apparently.

And yes, DC should be moving heaven and earth to keep the Caps at Capital One Arena because otherwise it’s the death knell of the Chinatown/Penn Quarter area.


I worked in downtown Baltimore FOR YEARS in the Galleria office floors. You're delusional if you are basing your safety on the two times a year you go to an Os game. Like full on delusional. My coworker got shot on Charles Street while going to Starbucks at 9am, but a stranger who had just gotten out of jail. When I commuted by Marc to Camden and then walked to the inner harbor I would take the raised walkway around the convention center as it is quicker than walking on the street level. Here is where you see all the strung out homeless people who sleep there, that aren't wandering around on the street. Yeah, Baltimore is safe. OMFG.

Baltimore is not Laurel and is not Alexandria. Baltimore, is Baltimore.
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2023 08:07     Subject: Wizards and Caps could be moving to Potomac Yard

Camden Yards is awesome. I go all the time to Os games and then Pickles after. Now that’s a destination with history
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2023 08:02     Subject: Wizards and Caps could be moving to Potomac Yard

Anonymous wrote:Let the Commanders move to Virginia, and move the Ravens from Baltimore to Laurel. Like having the Patriots in Foxboro. Camden Yards is crime-infested and a lot of Ravens/Orioles fans do not like going there, especially if they drive. Having the Commanders in Virginia will eliminate the long-standing feud between Baltimore & DC over major league teams.


Camden Yards, M&T Bank stadium, and the Inner Harbor are all very well patrolled by police. Every time I’ve been there - I go usually twice a year in the spring/summer - lots of police are visibly out to keep the peace. Thats not to say I haven’t noticed signs of problems, one of the parking garages they recommend you park at for the aquarium always has bullet holes in the windows that are facing the street. And theres also the ever present drug zombies. But I feel safe going there during the day. I’m not in denial about crime AT ALL but I would be shocked if there was a random assault to steal someone’s Canada Goose jacket or phone or whatever during prime commuting/tourism hours … unlike in DC, apparently.

And yes, DC should be moving heaven and earth to keep the Caps at Capital One Arena because otherwise it’s the death knell of the Chinatown/Penn Quarter area.
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2023 07:36     Subject: Wizards and Caps could be moving to Potomac Yard

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Potomac Yard is going to become a much bigger destination over the next ~7 to 10 years, with the Metro stop opening earlier this year and the big Virginia Tech campus opening up in phases over the next few years.

What’s the latest on the big existing strip mall with the Target and Best Buy? If they redevelop that into something like The Crossing in Clarendon it could do quite well.


That’s basically what the existing area plan called for already. A more dense mixed use development that eliminates all those surface parking lots.

Getting an arena instead really sucks for people who live there.


I wonder which generates more revenue- that Target or all of the shops in the crossing combined