Anonymous
11/28/2023 15:02
Subject: Celebrities who take themselves way too seriously
Sting
Anonymous
11/28/2023 12:42
Subject: Celebrities who take themselves way too seriously
Sean was unhinged for that el chapo stunt. That whole "documentary" was awful.
Anonymous
11/28/2023 11:41
Subject: Re:Celebrities who take themselves way too seriously
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:SEAN PENN
+1 omg I was going to post this too.
A very talented actor but apparently a not so great person.
Anonymous
11/28/2023 11:30
Subject: Celebrities who take themselves way too seriously
Angelina Jolie
George and Amal Clooney
Scarlett Johanssen
George and Amal Clooney
Scarlett Johanssen
Anonymous
11/28/2023 11:29
Subject: Celebrities who take themselves way too seriously
Beyoncé
Anonymous
11/28/2023 11:26
Subject: Re:Celebrities who take themselves way too seriously
Anonymous wrote:SEAN PENN
+1 omg I was going to post this too.
Anonymous
11/28/2023 11:14
Subject: Celebrities who take themselves way too seriously
Anonymous wrote:Please nominate your selections. I think Patti Smith's Instagram is very ... earnest.
Madonna’s ex husband with the terrible temper and superiority complex …
Anonymous
11/28/2023 10:55
Subject: Celebrities who take themselves way too seriously
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Celebrities can do nothing right in some people's eyes. If they're too serious or intellectual, they're mocked for it. If they're too frivolous, they're criticized.
They can't win. So they'd better do whatever they heck they want!!!
Also, shame on you. I'd like to see you handle intense scrutiny and dissection of your every move and social media post, OP. See whether you think that's fair.
What a weird comment. Either you are around the bend in your celebrity worship or you've been accused of taking yourself too seriously and over-identify, or both.
There is nothing wrong with being serious and intellectual. For instance Carrie Coon, one of my favorite working actors, is serious and intellectual. But she does not take *herself* too seriously, which means she stays likable and interesting.
There is a difference between being intellectually curious, well-read, and serious about serious issues, and walking around patting yourself on the back, acting like you are the only person who knows anything about anything. And to do this as an actor or celebrity whose life's work has nothing to do with the subjects you claim to be an expert in? It's annoying. Even worse is when these people lecture non-wealthy, non-famous people about these issues with no self-awareness that the average person can't fly to Africa to meet with people in famine or make their home carbon neutral or whatever. The average person is trying to afford childcare so they can work, and hoping they don't have a health crisis that would bankrupt them.
There are celebs who don't get that and they are annoying.
Those women need to stay likable, albeit with no visible goalpost.
All celebrities have to stay likable, it is essential to their careers. Women do have it harder because there are more catch 22s for female celebrities in terms of triggering people's internalized misogyny. Men definitely get more leeway in that (which is also likely why there are more men who are among the worst offenders in terms of taking themselves too seriously -- they are given more rope to hang themselves with), but men have to stay likable too.
No one likes being lectured at by a very privileged person, but I think actors can get especially annoying because many of them are not well-educated or even particularly knowledgeable on the subjects they lecture about. Every other celebrity thinks they are an expert on politics or the environment, and almost none of them actually have enough understanding of these subjects to speak authoritatively. But they are famous so people will listen when they speak anyway, even when they are wrong or hypocritical or misinformed. Thus: annoying. The best celebs stay in their lane.
In DC a lot of us have had the experience of working with celebrities on specific issues (briefing a celebrity before testifying before Congress, or bringing one in to speak to a non-profit, etc.) and when you see it up close you realize how dumb some of these people are. They'll associate themselves with a cause, maybe out of some genuine interest but often a lot out of self-interest, learn a few talking points, and then talk to people who have PhDs in the subject like they are children. They are like politicians in this way
Spot on!
Anonymous
11/28/2023 10:54
Subject: Celebrities who take themselves way too seriously
Anonymous wrote:Al Gore
Yes, and I’m liberal but he is a joke.
Susan Sarandon is awful.
Matt Damon talked about how his daughter told him not to say “fag” anymore. He said this recently. I mean, why would you share this to show how enlightened you are now? I haven’t been around anyone who would say this in front of others, especially their own children, in about 30 years.
All the ones sharing their political opinions.
Anonymous
11/28/2023 10:30
Subject: Celebrities who take themselves way too seriously
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Celebrities can do nothing right in some people's eyes. If they're too serious or intellectual, they're mocked for it. If they're too frivolous, they're criticized.
They can't win. So they'd better do whatever they heck they want!!!
Also, shame on you. I'd like to see you handle intense scrutiny and dissection of your every move and social media post, OP. See whether you think that's fair.
What a weird comment. Either you are around the bend in your celebrity worship or you've been accused of taking yourself too seriously and over-identify, or both.
There is nothing wrong with being serious and intellectual. For instance Carrie Coon, one of my favorite working actors, is serious and intellectual. But she does not take *herself* too seriously, which means she stays likable and interesting.
There is a difference between being intellectually curious, well-read, and serious about serious issues, and walking around patting yourself on the back, acting like you are the only person who knows anything about anything. And to do this as an actor or celebrity whose life's work has nothing to do with the subjects you claim to be an expert in? It's annoying. Even worse is when these people lecture non-wealthy, non-famous people about these issues with no self-awareness that the average person can't fly to Africa to meet with people in famine or make their home carbon neutral or whatever. The average person is trying to afford childcare so they can work, and hoping they don't have a health crisis that would bankrupt them.
There are celebs who don't get that and they are annoying.
Those women need to stay likable, albeit with no visible goalpost.
All celebrities have to stay likable, it is essential to their careers. Women do have it harder because there are more catch 22s for female celebrities in terms of triggering people's internalized misogyny. Men definitely get more leeway in that (which is also likely why there are more men who are among the worst offenders in terms of taking themselves too seriously -- they are given more rope to hang themselves with), but men have to stay likable too.
No one likes being lectured at by a very privileged person, but I think actors can get especially annoying because many of them are not well-educated or even particularly knowledgeable on the subjects they lecture about. Every other celebrity thinks they are an expert on politics or the environment, and almost none of them actually have enough understanding of these subjects to speak authoritatively. But they are famous so people will listen when they speak anyway, even when they are wrong or hypocritical or misinformed. Thus: annoying. The best celebs stay in their lane.
In DC a lot of us have had the experience of working with celebrities on specific issues (briefing a celebrity before testifying before Congress, or bringing one in to speak to a non-profit, etc.) and when you see it up close you realize how dumb some of these people are. They'll associate themselves with a cause, maybe out of some genuine interest but often a lot out of self-interest, learn a few talking points, and then talk to people who have PhDs in the subject like they are children. They are like politicians in this way
Anonymous
11/28/2023 10:20
Subject: Celebrities who take themselves way too seriously
Al Gore
Anonymous
11/28/2023 10:20
Subject: Celebrities who take themselves way too seriously
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:. Yes!!!Anonymous wrote:George Clooney
Well I give him credit for marrying well and committing to family life, while protecting his kids' privacy. Very different, and more serious, than Brangelina's posturing.
George and Amal are constantly seeking press then acting annoyed by it. He screams about the horrible paparazzi but chooses to seek them out to bolster his career. You can't have it both ways. But he thinks he's too important not to be in the public eye, hence his nomination on this thread.
Anonymous
11/27/2023 17:53
Subject: Celebrities who take themselves way too seriously
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m laughing…I agree with all of these (except Matt Damon!)
I get annoyed by Matt’s whole fake image. His story of how he met his wife is total BS and they have an understanding that he can mess around as long as he is discrete.
How did he meet his wife then? And does he mess around? Aw, I am naive and thought he was just a family guy.
seconding this! How did they bet? I thought she was just a bartender?
Anonymous
11/27/2023 17:43
Subject: Celebrities who take themselves way too seriously
Anonymous wrote:. Yes!!!Anonymous wrote:George Clooney
Well I give him credit for marrying well and committing to family life, while protecting his kids' privacy. Very different, and more serious, than Brangelina's posturing.
Anonymous
11/27/2023 17:41
Subject: Celebrities who take themselves way too seriously
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Celebrities can do nothing right in some people's eyes. If they're too serious or intellectual, they're mocked for it. If they're too frivolous, they're criticized.
They can't win. So they'd better do whatever they heck they want!!!
Also, shame on you. I'd like to see you handle intense scrutiny and dissection of your every move and social media post, OP. See whether you think that's fair.
What a weird comment. Either you are around the bend in your celebrity worship or you've been accused of taking yourself too seriously and over-identify, or both.
There is nothing wrong with being serious and intellectual. For instance Carrie Coon, one of my favorite working actors, is serious and intellectual. But she does not take *herself* too seriously, which means she stays likable and interesting.
There is a difference between being intellectually curious, well-read, and serious about serious issues, and walking around patting yourself on the back, acting like you are the only person who knows anything about anything. And to do this as an actor or celebrity whose life's work has nothing to do with the subjects you claim to be an expert in? It's annoying. Even worse is when these people lecture non-wealthy, non-famous people about these issues with no self-awareness that the average person can't fly to Africa to meet with people in famine or make their home carbon neutral or whatever. The average person is trying to afford childcare so they can work, and hoping they don't have a health crisis that would bankrupt them.
There are celebs who don't get that and they are annoying.
Those women need to stay likable, albeit with no visible goalpost.