Anonymous
11/20/2023 11:07
Subject: The allure of Duke?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I can confirm as a west coast resident, no special allure for Duke in this part of the country. It's in a class with Vandy, Rice, NU, USC, Emory, BU, U of Notre Dame... All great schools.
From my part of the west coast Duke gets some of the top students, and we see lower ivies struggling more.
Don't bash the schools as "lower" ivy just because your kids were rejected. Instead, love the school that accepted your kid. If Duke is providing a college home for your kid, it's truly the #1 school in the world for your family.
I don’t think PP is bashing them, its just true that the ivies are not equal. Cornell isn’t Harvard and Dartmouth isn’t Princeton.
Anonymous
11/20/2023 10:32
Subject: The allure of Duke?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I can confirm as a west coast resident, no special allure for Duke in this part of the country. It's in a class with Vandy, Rice, NU, USC, Emory, BU, U of Notre Dame... All great schools.
From my part of the west coast Duke gets some of the top students, and we see lower ivies struggling more.
Don't bash the schools as "lower" ivy just because your kids were rejected. Instead, love the school that accepted your kid. If Duke is providing a college home for your kid, it's truly the #1 school in the world for your family.
Anonymous
11/20/2023 10:31
Subject: The allure of Duke?
Universities are incredibly complex entities. I’m shocked that anybody over the age of 12 thinks qualitative college rankings are precise to the point that the #7 college is meaningfully “better” than the #15 college. Just because things have numbers attached to them, it doesn’t mean they necessarily represent tangible distinctions.
Anonymous
11/20/2023 10:29
Subject: Re:The allure of Duke?
Rankings change year-to-year. Last year Duke was #5 on WSJ, #9 on Forbes, and #8 on Niche, which are the only undergrad rankings you’ve cited.
Insisting Duke is "T10" rather than "T10-T15" because in years past it was ranked among the top ten but has now fallen out of them is just laughable. Actually, by DCUM standards, I'm surprised we haven't seen threads analyzing why "Duke is plummeting in rankings."
Anonymous
11/20/2023 10:28
Subject: The allure of Duke?
My kid ended up at HYP as a crew recruit. Was also recruited by UNC + Duke. I actually thought UNC and its surroundings were nicer than Duke's. Duke seemed closed off to me.
Anonymous
11/20/2023 10:22
Subject: Re:The allure of Duke?
If you are smart, naturally fit/athletic, and savvy it is the perfect school.
Anonymous
11/20/2023 10:17
Subject: Re:The allure of Duke?
Anonymous wrote:I'm not much of a Duke fan but according to the rankings that hold the most weight, Duke is almost always above the 10-15 range. What is the 10-15 based on?
Nationally, it's a T10 school.
No, simply not true. I couldn't care less about Duke specifically -- and obviously it's a superb university -- but cite this simply as a good example of both rank-inflation-by-promoters and DCUM's obsession with one single ranking system to the exclusion of all other (credible) efforts.
USNWR ranks Duke as #7
Forbes ranks Duke as #16.
WSJ ranks Duke as #16.
THE (Times of London) ranks Duke as #17 in US (not closely followed on DCUM, but certainly credible and well-researched).
QS World University Rankings ranks Duke as #18 in US (ditto).
Niche ranks Duke as #13 (less authoritative than those above but followed by many).
Rankings change year-to-year. Last year Duke was #5 on WSJ, #9 on Forbes, and #8 on Niche, which are the only undergrad rankings you’ve cited.
Anonymous
11/20/2023 10:15
Subject: Re:The allure of Duke?
I'm not much of a Duke fan but according to the rankings that hold the most weight, Duke is almost always above the 10-15 range. What is the 10-15 based on?
Nationally, it's a T10 school.
No, simply not true. I couldn't care less about Duke specifically -- and obviously it's a superb university -- but cite this simply as a good example of both rank-inflation-by-promoters and DCUM's obsession with one single ranking system to the exclusion of all other (credible) efforts.
USNWR ranks Duke as #7
Forbes ranks Duke as #16.
WSJ ranks Duke as #16.
THE (Times of London) ranks Duke as #17 in US (not closely followed on DCUM, but certainly credible and well-researched).
QS World University Rankings ranks Duke as #18 in US (ditto).
Niche ranks Duke as #13 (less authoritative than those above but followed by many).
Anonymous
11/20/2023 09:52
Subject: The allure of Duke?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I can confirm as a west coast resident, no special allure for Duke in this part of the country. It's in a class with Vandy, Rice, NU, USC, Emory, BU, U of Notre Dame... All great schools.
Nationally, it's a T10 school.
Didn't realize that because it isn't anywhere near that for STEM fields that I follow.
Schools like Harvard and Yale are also not top 10 for a field like CS, so
Anonymous
11/20/2023 09:46
Subject: The allure of Duke?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Umm - great school, great weather, great basketball, great quality of life.
+1 it seems pretty clear to me
It should be for the 500k it will cost to send your kid there for 4 years.
More like $350k but yes all the top privates are expensive, what’s the surprise?
Anonymous
11/20/2023 09:45
Subject: The allure of Duke?
Anonymous wrote:I can confirm as a west coast resident, no special allure for Duke in this part of the country. It's in a class with Vandy, Rice, NU, USC, Emory, BU, U of Notre Dame... All great schools.
From my part of the west coast Duke gets some of the top students, and we see lower ivies struggling more.
Anonymous
11/20/2023 09:42
Subject: The allure of Duke?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I can confirm as a west coast resident, no special allure for Duke in this part of the country. It's in a class with Vandy, Rice, NU, USC, Emory, BU, U of Notre Dame... All great schools.
Nationally, it's a T10 school.
Didn't realize that because it isn't anywhere near that for STEM fields that I follow.
Anonymous
11/20/2023 09:40
Subject: The allure of Duke?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Umm - great school, great weather, great basketball, great quality of life.
+1 it seems pretty clear to me
It should be for the 500k it will cost to send your kid there for 4 years.
Anonymous
11/20/2023 09:22
Subject: The allure of Duke?
Anonymous wrote:I can confirm as a west coast resident, no special allure for Duke in this part of the country. It's in a class with Vandy, Rice, NU, USC, Emory, BU, U of Notre Dame... All great schools.
Nationally, it's a T10 school.
Anonymous
11/20/2023 09:09
Subject: The allure of Duke?
I can confirm as a west coast resident, no special allure for Duke in this part of the country. It's in a class with Vandy, Rice, NU, USC, Emory, BU, U of Notre Dame... All great schools.