Anonymous
Post 12/07/2023 15:15     Subject: UVA - out of state admissions
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For our OOO high school about 10 apply each year. Last year 3ED - 1 rejected outright, 2 deferred and then rejected. The deferral was the worst since they then could not ED2 or if they did would have to pull their application from UVA. In the past 6 years only one was ever accepted and it was in RD - female URM first gen, SAT 1600, UW gpa 3.98 plus a lot of EC. She declined since she got a full ride to Princeton.

Our guidance department is very clear that UVA is a lottery ticket and even though the overall admission rate is higher than most T20 schools our specific high school does not have much luck, even with top students, and most have a better chance getting into a T20 that has a lower admission rate.

I really hope they, and all schools, defer less kids who apply ED - deferring thousands when you are only planning on admitting a handful from that list is not fair to the kids to give so much false hope & not allow them the opportunity to ED2.


They are no longer deferring ED or EA.


+1. There are many posts about this on Reddit and College Confidential
Anonymous
Post 12/07/2023 15:15     Subject: Re:UVA - out of state admissions
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:it is unfair to defer excessive numbers of applicants by giving them nothing but false hopes.

I think all schools should have a cap on their waitlists, say 20% of their target enrollments?



Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This year could be even more challenging, as they have received 5% more EA+ED applications than last year.

Anonymous wrote:For UVA class 2027, the OOS acceptance rate is 13% with 41,330 completed applications.

Where did your 20% come from?



Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No one ever gets in from our OOS school...last year, 14 applied, ONE admitted They had a 4.6 GPA and a 36 ACT. The kid with the 4.5 GPA and 35 got denied. Nuts!


Stop spreading misinformation. OOS acceptance rate is about 20%.


ED is up a little so acceptance rate will go down. They also won’t be deferring so they may be able to accept a few more students but perhaps they will just waitlist more.


Agree that it was the right move for UvA to stop deferring. They were deferring a huge number and then only a few hundred were ultimately accepted. Last year they deferred ED apps than they accepted.



Statistically that had to happen. UVA received over 55,000 applications (all categories) last year. If you really want a shocker go and see how many kids are deferred then waitlisted at UCLA and Berkeley
Anonymous
Post 12/07/2023 07:51     Subject: UVA - out of state admissions
Anonymous wrote:For our OOO high school about 10 apply each year. Last year 3ED - 1 rejected outright, 2 deferred and then rejected. The deferral was the worst since they then could not ED2 or if they did would have to pull their application from UVA. In the past 6 years only one was ever accepted and it was in RD - female URM first gen, SAT 1600, UW gpa 3.98 plus a lot of EC. She declined since she got a full ride to Princeton.

Our guidance department is very clear that UVA is a lottery ticket and even though the overall admission rate is higher than most T20 schools our specific high school does not have much luck, even with top students, and most have a better chance getting into a T20 that has a lower admission rate.

I really hope they, and all schools, defer less kids who apply ED - deferring thousands when you are only planning on admitting a handful from that list is not fair to the kids to give so much false hope & not allow them the opportunity to ED2.


They are no longer deferring ED or EA.
Anonymous
Post 12/07/2023 07:39     Subject: UVA - out of state admissions
For our OOO high school about 10 apply each year. Last year 3ED - 1 rejected outright, 2 deferred and then rejected. The deferral was the worst since they then could not ED2 or if they did would have to pull their application from UVA. In the past 6 years only one was ever accepted and it was in RD - female URM first gen, SAT 1600, UW gpa 3.98 plus a lot of EC. She declined since she got a full ride to Princeton.

Our guidance department is very clear that UVA is a lottery ticket and even though the overall admission rate is higher than most T20 schools our specific high school does not have much luck, even with top students, and most have a better chance getting into a T20 that has a lower admission rate.

I really hope they, and all schools, defer less kids who apply ED - deferring thousands when you are only planning on admitting a handful from that list is not fair to the kids to give so much false hope & not allow them the opportunity to ED2.
Anonymous
Post 12/07/2023 06:02     Subject: UVA - out of state admissions
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:UVA is tricky. You can’t tell from naviance if the OOS kids who were rejected took the courses that UVA expects them to take. The most important thing to UVA is the coursework and the grades. A 4.5 or 4.6 doesn’t tell you much.

At my kid’s oos school a ton of kids are applying this year even though they know that they don’t have the coursework or grades that are needed tp get in.


What is that coursework?


This is accurate in our experience. I joke that UVA is a liberal arts university with pre-professional programs as well. Its GE requirements in A&S are numerous and comparable to those at SLACs. That’s why Dean J emphasizes the importance of not specializing in high school. Our advice to our son in HS was to take all core classes across many subjects. No fluff unless the course was a passion topic. Don’t have to AP in all science subjects; one will suffice with honors level in the rest. But… 4 years of foreign language with AP, at least 1 AP each in history, English, math, etc. UVA wants applicants to have demonstrated strong, well rounded core knowledge. AP research and its ilk is fluff. Comp Sci is fine, but UVAs program ain’t great (UMD is better). Demonstrated excellence in art, music, and/or sports is important.
Anonymous
Post 12/07/2023 05:43     Subject: UVA - out of state admissions
Anonymous wrote:Anyone have stats for kids admitted from out of state?

Scores/gpa, something extra? Public/private?


1570 SAT
Private HS
3.8 GPA (no weighting)
10 APs (most 5s, couple 4s, 1 3 in foreign language)
Traditional ECs over several years
No hook, no sports
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2023 15:02     Subject: UVA - out of state admissions
Anonymous wrote:Need to somehow reduce number of Westminster Schools admits. Place is overrun.


What are westminster schools?
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2023 06:07     Subject: UVA - out of state admissions
Anonymous wrote:Need to somehow reduce number of Westminster Schools admits. Place is overrun.


What is this?
Anonymous
Post 12/02/2023 22:19     Subject: Re:UVA - out of state admissions
Anonymous wrote:it is unfair to defer excessive numbers of applicants by giving them nothing but false hopes.

I think all schools should have a cap on their waitlists, say 20% of their target enrollments?



Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This year could be even more challenging, as they have received 5% more EA+ED applications than last year.

Anonymous wrote:For UVA class 2027, the OOS acceptance rate is 13% with 41,330 completed applications.

Where did your 20% come from?



Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No one ever gets in from our OOS school...last year, 14 applied, ONE admitted They had a 4.6 GPA and a 36 ACT. The kid with the 4.5 GPA and 35 got denied. Nuts!


Stop spreading misinformation. OOS acceptance rate is about 20%.


ED is up a little so acceptance rate will go down. They also won’t be deferring so they may be able to accept a few more students but perhaps they will just waitlist more.


Agree that it was the right move for UvA to stop deferring. They were deferring a huge number and then only a few hundred were ultimately accepted. Last year they deferred ED apps than they accepted.
Anonymous
Post 12/02/2023 22:19     Subject: UVA - out of state admissions
Need to somehow reduce number of Westminster Schools admits. Place is overrun.
Anonymous
Post 12/02/2023 22:17     Subject: Re:UVA - out of state admissions
Anonymous wrote:DC got into three Ivies and Duke; waitlisted at UVA OOS.


Wow
Anonymous
Post 12/02/2023 22:15     Subject: UVA - out of state admissions
Anonymous wrote:All the UVA OOS I know - legacy and/or supper loaded coming from elite prep/boarding schools…


Strange … all those Californians there and most from public.
Anonymous
Post 12/02/2023 22:14     Subject: Re:UVA - out of state admissions
Anonymous wrote:DC got into three Ivies and Duke; waitlisted at UVA OOS.


I do hope you mean in previous years because none of have released even SCEA or ED yet
Anonymous
Post 12/02/2023 22:13     Subject: Re:UVA - out of state admissions
Anonymous wrote:No one ever gets in from our OOS school...last year, 14 applied, ONE admitted They had a 4.6 GPA and a 36 ACT. The kid with the 4.5 GPA and 35 got denied. Nuts!


+1. Same
Anonymous
Post 12/02/2023 20:14     Subject: Re:UVA - out of state admissions
DC got into three Ivies and Duke; waitlisted at UVA OOS.