Anonymous wrote:OP - my sister did this in college. She and her BF lived at a family's house (upstairs apartment) and then did household chores and took care of the 1 kid after school. It worked for them in that specific situation for a couple of years. I don't know if they were even paid, or just did the work in exchange for living there. I would think you might find someone more like a college student rather than an adult professional, or someone who also has another source of income.

I would have done this as a college student, but I agree that you need to offer more hours. For this job, I'd ask for an extra 1.5 hours each day for dinner prep and cleanup. So from 1:30 to 3:00 I'd prep dinner and clean up breakfast dishes, any dishes from making school lunches, and the pots/pans I used to make dinner. Then, by 3:00 I'd pick up kids, deliver to activities, and supervise homework + instrumental music or whatever.

Then off at 6 pm, and the parents would need to clean up the dishes from actually eating dinner. That would leave me with the evening free to study, or earn extra money in other ways.

Lol

Anonymous wrote:That is $20,000 before taxes and probably $16,000 take home or $1333 per month. Health insurance alone is $400-800/month out of pocket. Plus phone, car, gas, car insurance, groceries, toiletries. Not to mention loans, clothes, shoes, etc it's just not livable and the hours prevent them from getting another job.

Almost every poster is telling you the same thing and you are not listening.

You also run the great risk of being someone's landlord. If it doesn't go well, you don't just let them go you have to fully evict them.

I'm not the OP.
That's a great point. Say OP finds someone that agrees to do this...and then they move in and say..."Nope. I'm not going to do any of that. I'm just going to stay here for free." How many months (years?) would it take for OP to actually get this person out?

That is $20,000 before taxes and probably $16,000 take home or $1333 per month. Health insurance alone is $400-800/month out of pocket. Plus phone, car, gas, car insurance, groceries, toiletries. Not to mention loans, clothes, shoes, etc it's just not livable and the hours prevent them from getting another job.

Almost every poster is telling you the same thing and you are not listening.

You also run the great risk of being someone's landlord. If it doesn't go well, you don't just let them go you have to fully evict them.

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Thank you. To the nanny PP. Yes, I would specify much more clearly what I mean, but basically just cleaning the house and perhaps doing laundry. There won’t be any other errands or projects/cooking.

Wouldn’t a nanny find it convenient also since she will have no commute and won’t have to pay for rent? What am I missing here?

I think what you are missing is sense of stability and having a home of ones own. This might work well for a college student that has classes in the morning and is struggling with rent. But, a person with a family doesn't want to live in the basement of their employer's home, knowing both home and job can be taken away at any moment. People with families have things, schools, lives of their own.

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Anonymous wrote:You need to pay way more for three kids and a live in that isn't full time hours.

Free rent gets rid of a HUGE bill for the nanny!

Could you live on $20,000 a year?

Yes, if I did not have rent - certainly.

Exactly, after taxes and rent/utilities on a $40K salary, you would be about even.

OP, you came back and answered some questions, but didn't say if you would be providing the car.
Will you be providing a car/insurance/gas?

PP again. But it might be more difficult to find someone to take care of 3 kids, and a college student will have conflicts with classes.

OP - my sister did this in college. She and her BF lived at a family's house (upstairs apartment) and then did household chores and took care of the 1 kid after school. It worked for them in that specific situation for a couple of years. I don't know if they were even paid, or just did the work in exchange for living there. I would think you might find someone more like a college student rather than an adult professional, or someone who also has another source of income.

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Anonymous wrote:You need to pay way more for three kids and a live in that isn't full time hours.

Free rent gets rid of a HUGE bill for the nanny!

Could you live on $20,000 a year?

Yes, if I did not have rent - certainly.

To add, I lived on that amount with rent, sadly.

I don’t doubt it.

Was your 20k Pre or post tax and did you have any outside income?

I was calculating the 20,000 pre tax, so the post tax is less.

That hourly pay is way too low.

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Anonymous wrote:Not having to pay for housing and utilities is huge, and it's not taxed so that's great.

But the cash in hand is poverty wages. What is she going to do for healthcare?

It is not taxed if it meets all the criteria for not being taxed. I'm not sure OP's description fits the bill in one particular: The "condition of employment" requirement means the employee can't perform the job without staying on your property. For a nanny job, this means the job requires the nanny to be available to the children at all times. A 3-hour afternoon job does not require a person to live at the premises.

So the "free" apartment would be a business write off for OP, but the fair market value would be attributed income to the nanny for income tax; and OP likely isn't paying enough in cash to even cover those taxes.

Do you mind if she rents the other bedroom out to someone and keeps that rent money as income?

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Anonymous wrote:You need to pay way more for three kids and a live in that isn't full time hours.

Free rent gets rid of a HUGE bill for the nanny!

Could you live on $20,000 a year?

Yes, if I did not have rent - certainly.

To add, I lived on that amount with rent, sadly.

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Anonymous wrote:You need to pay way more for three kids and a live in that isn't full time hours.

Free rent gets rid of a HUGE bill for the nanny!

Could you live on $20,000 a year?

Yes, if I did not have rent - certainly.