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Anonymous wrote:Yeah but how many hours a day are you at work vs how many hours are you hanging out with friends in the evening after work?

When I was in my 20’s, I would hate to have no in person socializing throughout my workday, and only get to see people in the evening for a couple of hours (likely just a few times a week because going out every night would be a bit excessive!)

I have always preferred to spend time with actual friends not people I’m forced to work with. You choose your friends not your coworkers.

The person you're responding to is saying "given you have to spend a certain amount of time at work, better to enjoy it with socializing even if you prefer your outside-of-work friends". They are saying it's not a trade-off between socializing with coworkers and socializing with other friends because you can keep your coworker socializing during the work day.

Yes, thanks for explaining what I was trying to say!

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Anonymous wrote:Working from home and living alone is feelin’ a lot like 2020. Everyday feels the same, no physical contact, and way too much thinking. Anyone have tips on getting out of this rut?

I thought living alone was going to be so much fun, because in every tv show, you moved out in your 20s even because living alone is so much fun.......

I am a 26 years old software engineer and I've never been back to the office after March 2020. WFH is the best thing for young people. I wake up at 6am to go to the gym and be back home at 8am to have breakfast, and start the work day at 8:30am. Took an hour break during lunch to play pickleball with friends and have lunch after that. Play tennis or 9 holes golf with friends at 5pm and go out for a drink and dinner after that. If I have to work in the office, I would not be able to go to the gym, play PB/tennis, and hang out with friends on weekdays. No way I am going back to the office.

Op, this is how you do it. Now by chaining yourself to an office 9-5.

You need to have plans to get you out of the house at night at least a couple of nights a week. It doesn't have to be clubbing or hanging out with friends every night - it can be a workout class, a book club etc (meet up is good for finding things like a book club to join). Don't be afraid to show up to things on your own. Volunteer. Try new things.

As someone else said, it can be easy to fall into the pattern of staying home and watching netflix, but don't let yourself do that every single night. When I felt like I was in a rut I signed up for a pottery class and joined a run club, and joined a volunteer board. You don't have to stick with everything you try but it gets you out of the house and socializing.

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah but how many hours a day are you at work vs how many hours are you hanging out with friends in the evening after work?

When I was in my 20’s, I would hate to have no in person socializing throughout my workday, and only get to see people in the evening for a couple of hours (likely just a few times a week because going out every night would be a bit excessive!)

I have always preferred to spend time with actual friends not people I’m forced to work with. You choose your friends not your coworkers.

The person you're responding to is saying "given you have to spend a certain amount of time at work, better to enjoy it with socializing even if you prefer your outside-of-work friends". They are saying it's not a trade-off between socializing with coworkers and socializing with other friends because you can keep your coworker socializing during the work day.

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Anonymous wrote:Amidst the snark, there is some good advice here for OP. I’ll just add that it’s ok if remote work isn’t for you. Some people act like it’s the perfect work environment for everyone. For some of us, going to the office is better for our physical and mental health and that’s ok.

I work at a 6000 employees company with about 75% of the employees are under 30 years old. The company recently did a survey regarding Return To Office (RTO) and 99% of the 30 years old and under voted NOT to return to office PERMANENTLY.  40% of the remaining 25% want to RTO two days a week.  The young crowd does not want to be in the office.

Don’t they get lonely being by themselves all day and having no in person socializing?

Signed,

An introverted gen Xer who could never wfh in my 20’s!

Who are you people that have no friends? Didn’t you socialize with actual friends most nights when you were young? You only got your socialization from talking to people at your job?

NP. I've never had friends. I've had people I'm friendly with - at work, at volunteering, etc. But I've lived in my apartment for a decade and nobody has ever come over. Growing up I had friends over maybe four or five times? I didn't really go out at night when I was a young adult.

That’s really sad.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Amidst the snark, there is some good advice here for OP. I’ll just add that it’s ok if remote work isn’t for you. Some people act like it’s the perfect work environment for everyone. For some of us, going to the office is better for our physical and mental health and that’s ok.

I work at a 6000 employees company with about 75% of the employees are under 30 years old. The company recently did a survey regarding Return To Office (RTO) and 99% of the 30 years old and under voted NOT to return to office PERMANENTLY.  40% of the remaining 25% want to RTO two days a week.  The young crowd does not want to be in the office.

Don’t they get lonely being by themselves all day and having no in person socializing?

Signed,

An introverted gen Xer who could never wfh in my 20’s!

Who are you people that have no friends? Didn’t you socialize with actual friends most nights when you were young? You only got your socialization from talking to people at your job?

NP. I've never had friends. I've had people I'm friendly with - at work, at volunteering, etc. But I've lived in my apartment for a decade and nobody has ever come over. Growing up I had friends over maybe four or five times? I didn't really go out at night when I was a young adult.

Anonymous wrote:Living alone is not fun.

I LOVE living alone. As an introvert I always hated having to have roommates. Living alone is the best ever!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Amidst the snark, there is some good advice here for OP. I’ll just add that it’s ok if remote work isn’t for you. Some people act like it’s the perfect work environment for everyone. For some of us, going to the office is better for our physical and mental health and that’s ok.

I work at a 6000 employees company with about 75% of the employees are under 30 years old. The company recently did a survey regarding Return To Office (RTO) and 99% of the 30 years old and under voted NOT to return to office PERMANENTLY.  40% of the remaining 25% want to RTO two days a week.  The young crowd does not want to be in the office.

Don’t they get lonely being by themselves all day and having no in person socializing?

Signed,

An introverted gen Xer who could never wfh in my 20’s!

Who are you people that have no friends? Didn’t you socialize with actual friends most nights when you were young? You only got your socialization from talking to people at your job?

At that age I had a ton of friends that were not from work, but since we all worked in downtown dc, within a few metro stops it was easy to meet for happy hour or dinner or even lunch during the day on slower weeks.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Amidst the snark, there is some good advice here for OP. I’ll just add that it’s ok if remote work isn’t for you. Some people act like it’s the perfect work environment for everyone. For some of us, going to the office is better for our physical and mental health and that’s ok.

I work at a 6000 employees company with about 75% of the employees are under 30 years old. The company recently did a survey regarding Return To Office (RTO) and 99% of the 30 years old and under voted NOT to return to office PERMANENTLY.  40% of the remaining 25% want to RTO two days a week.  The young crowd does not want to be in the office.

Don’t they get lonely being by themselves all day and having no in person socializing?

Signed,

An introverted gen Xer who could never wfh in my 20’s!

Who are you people that have no friends? Didn’t you socialize with actual friends most nights when you were young? You only got your socialization from talking to people at your job?

A lot of people did used to make friends at work, especially if they had to move to a new city for work. Someone in their 20’s probably has most friends from college and might not be around them anymore.

Living alone is not fun.