Anonymous
11/06/2023 06:22
Subject: house sold down the street now turned into a rental with multiple families - legal?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If that’s your worst nightmare your life is a dream. Get over yourself.
Np not helpful. I wonder what you would say if they moved next door to you?
People are so full of it on this thread, no way most would be all happy and fine about this happening on their block, as suggested by the comments.
Anonymous
11/06/2023 06:19
Subject: Re:house sold down the street now turned into a rental with multiple families - legal?
Anonymous wrote:This is generally the outcome of investor real estate.
Homeowner occupied homes generally are neighborly. The occupants want to know their neighbors, get along and vice versa for good, long term reasons.
Renters don't have the same motivation as they have a terminal relationship to their living quarters. It fulfills a practical need of the moment. The roof over their heads, and the neighbors, are simply part of a short term strategy.
That's why they don't care about trash in the yard. A homeowner will be concerned about generating a rodent problem. The renter doesn't expect to be around when the rodents become entrenched.
In the renter's mind, "they" will take care of it. "They" being the county, registered property owner, neighbors, sanitation, some unicorn do-gooder...
Just like the investor, the renter has no ties to the community.
PP let's pretend for a moment that you didn't have the means to purchase property. So instead, you found a place where you could afford the rent in a neighborhood that suited you.
Would YOU leave trash in the yard?
Would YOU let conditions get to the point where you had rodents?
Anonymous
11/06/2023 06:10
Subject: house sold down the street now turned into a rental with multiple families - legal?
Definitely call the county OP. Yes this would drive me nuts too.
Anonymous
11/06/2023 03:43
Subject: Re:house sold down the street now turned into a rental with multiple families - legal?
Anonymous wrote:This is generally the outcome of investor real estate.
Homeowner occupied homes generally are neighborly. The occupants want to know their neighbors, get along and vice versa for good, long term reasons.
Renters don't have the same motivation as they have a terminal relationship to their living quarters. It fulfills a practical need of the moment. The roof over their heads, and the neighbors, are simply part of a short term strategy.
That's why they don't care about trash in the yard. A homeowner will be concerned about generating a rodent problem. The renter doesn't expect to be around when the rodents become entrenched.
In the renter's mind, "they" will take care of it. "They" being the county, registered property owner, neighbors, sanitation, some unicorn do-gooder...
Just like the investor, the renter has no ties to the community.
Oh please. I rented a place for 8 years and definitely knew my neighbors. I also did not strew trash around. Sounds like you are just prejudiced against renters.
Anonymous
11/06/2023 00:48
Subject: house sold down the street now turned into a rental with multiple families - legal?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Worst nightmare has happened - house down the street was sold and now they're renting out to multiple families and people. They now have multiple cars everywhere, have been parking on my neighbor's lawn, left trash strewn in the street because they don't care, and don't take care of the yard/property of course cause they're renters. Is it legal in Montgomery County to do this? Absolutely zero work and construction was done in the house, so the house is still built with rooms, kitchen, and bathroom like it is for a single family.
It's really justifying up the steet and declining the quality of life for everyone.
What does this mean?
Crappy autocorrect.
Junkifying was the original word.
But that's not a word.
Anonymous
11/06/2023 00:42
Subject: house sold down the street now turned into a rental with multiple families - legal?
Anonymous wrote:Worst nightmare has happened - house down the street was sold and now they're renting out to multiple families and people. They now have multiple cars everywhere, have been parking on my neighbor's lawn, left trash strewn in the street because they don't care, and don't take care of the yard/property of course cause they're renters. Is it legal in Montgomery County to do this? Absolutely zero work and construction was done in the house, so the house is still built with rooms, kitchen, and bathroom like it is for a single family.
It's really justifying up the steet and declining the quality of life for everyone.
You can look up the homes address and you cab see if they have a license to permit rentals as a multiple family dwelling (or if they have a rental license at all).
Type in the street number and name (city, state, zip code and "community" aren't necessary).
This will show you the name of every single homeowner in MoCo that currently lives at that address.
Then click on "rental licenses".
If they have one, it will be there.
https://apps.montgomerycountymd.gov/dhca-eproperty
Anonymous
11/05/2023 23:14
Subject: house sold down the street now turned into a rental with multiple families - legal?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If that’s your worst nightmare your life is a dream. Get over yourself.
Np not helpful. I wonder what you would say if they moved next door to you?
I live in a neighborhood with tenants like this. Why would it bother me? If they parked on my lawn I would ask them to move (this has happened) other than that we are all fine.
Anonymous
11/05/2023 23:07
Subject: house sold down the street now turned into a rental with multiple families - legal?
We had a multi family home rental next door to us. The basement was finished and had an extra bedrooms and a kitchen in it. They were very conscientious of keeping front yard clear. Weeded the beds and swept porch daily. They mostly kept to themselves minus helping everyone dig out after a big snow. They did have work trucks but never encroached on anyone else’s space. It was never an issue.
FWIW consider yourself fortunate that a living situation like that isn’t one you have to choose out of necessity.
FWIW consider yourself fortunate that a living situation like that isn’t one you have to choose out of necessity.
Anonymous
11/05/2023 22:10
Subject: Re:house sold down the street now turned into a rental with multiple families - legal?
This is generally the outcome of investor real estate.
Homeowner occupied homes generally are neighborly. The occupants want to know their neighbors, get along and vice versa for good, long term reasons.
Renters don't have the same motivation as they have a terminal relationship to their living quarters. It fulfills a practical need of the moment. The roof over their heads, and the neighbors, are simply part of a short term strategy.
That's why they don't care about trash in the yard. A homeowner will be concerned about generating a rodent problem. The renter doesn't expect to be around when the rodents become entrenched.
In the renter's mind, "they" will take care of it. "They" being the county, registered property owner, neighbors, sanitation, some unicorn do-gooder...
Just like the investor, the renter has no ties to the community.
Homeowner occupied homes generally are neighborly. The occupants want to know their neighbors, get along and vice versa for good, long term reasons.
Renters don't have the same motivation as they have a terminal relationship to their living quarters. It fulfills a practical need of the moment. The roof over their heads, and the neighbors, are simply part of a short term strategy.
That's why they don't care about trash in the yard. A homeowner will be concerned about generating a rodent problem. The renter doesn't expect to be around when the rodents become entrenched.
In the renter's mind, "they" will take care of it. "They" being the county, registered property owner, neighbors, sanitation, some unicorn do-gooder...
Just like the investor, the renter has no ties to the community.
Anonymous
11/05/2023 21:49
Subject: Re:house sold down the street now turned into a rental with multiple families - legal?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s probably not legal. In single family neighborhoods the cap is typically one family or four unrelated adults, so multiple families would be a problem. But as a practical matter the county might not enforce those rules, especially against renters that aren’t engaging in criminal conduct.
Nobody had a problem with me and my four housemates and our five cars in our group house in Bethesda.
They talked about you behind your backs and every time the lease turned over they speculated about if the owner would ever just rent to a nice young family with kids.
Trust me, no landlord wants any “nice young family with kids” - that’s a recipe for property damage and lawsuits.
Anonymous
11/05/2023 21:39
Subject: house sold down the street now turned into a rental with multiple families - legal?
Anonymous wrote:This is happening in my area of New Jersey . Beautiful suburban area and tons of “llcs” are purchasing the homes and stuffing them with multiple families. The LLCs are always named after the street the house is on and always a new name for each house . It’s getting weird when it’s so damn many in my town . The houses then get neglected and the market values may decline because of this
This is the same as my corner of the neighborhood in a nice area in a west coast city. It started with overseas investors and now after the pandemic it’s all mystery LLCs and I couldn’t tell you who they are. The houses get filled up with renters who fill nearby blocks with their cars, they’re never painted or maintained, and long-time residents are moving out of frustration…but then they want more equity and appreciation so they rent their houses out, too. And the cycle continues.
In the last 5 years our block has gone from 7/8 owner-occupied houses to 3/8 owner-occupied houses.
Anonymous
11/05/2023 21:38
Subject: house sold down the street now turned into a rental with multiple families - legal?
Anonymous wrote:This is happening in my area of New Jersey . Beautiful suburban area and tons of “llcs” are purchasing the homes and stuffing them with multiple families. The LLCs are always named after the street the house is on and always a new name for each house . It’s getting weird when it’s so damn many in my town . The houses then get neglected and the market values may decline because of this
I would be super curious who is behind it.
What type of tenants there?
Anonymous
11/05/2023 21:32
Subject: house sold down the street now turned into a rental with multiple families - legal?
This just happened in the house next door to me. Except they are a bunch of Jarheads from the midwest.
They all drive huge pickup trucks, park wherever they are truly loud and obnoxious.
The thing is they get harassed constantly, people have their cars towed and call the police for noise complaints as soon as the clock allows.
Hopefully they will move on soon and the investors will decide to pull up stakes to a nice quiet family.
They all drive huge pickup trucks, park wherever they are truly loud and obnoxious.
The thing is they get harassed constantly, people have their cars towed and call the police for noise complaints as soon as the clock allows.
Hopefully they will move on soon and the investors will decide to pull up stakes to a nice quiet family.
Anonymous
11/05/2023 14:51
Subject: house sold down the street now turned into a rental with multiple families - legal?
OP:
If you want to be a nuisance, look up the buyer’s info on the county assessor’s website. You can also likely access financing documentation too (we can do this in DC - it’s all publicly available).
If owner is claiming house as primary residence, notify the MoCo assessors office so he can get slapped with the rental property tax rates.
If owner is claiming as primary residence to his lender, contact the lender directly. They will be very eager to either call the loan due or force the owner to refinance into a much more expensive investment loan (probably 200 bps higher interest rate than conforming 30Y loan for owner occupants). Lenders are going hard right now after investors who are taking out phony primary residence loans.
If you want to be a nuisance, look up the buyer’s info on the county assessor’s website. You can also likely access financing documentation too (we can do this in DC - it’s all publicly available).
If owner is claiming house as primary residence, notify the MoCo assessors office so he can get slapped with the rental property tax rates.
If owner is claiming as primary residence to his lender, contact the lender directly. They will be very eager to either call the loan due or force the owner to refinance into a much more expensive investment loan (probably 200 bps higher interest rate than conforming 30Y loan for owner occupants). Lenders are going hard right now after investors who are taking out phony primary residence loans.
Anonymous
11/05/2023 11:17
Subject: house sold down the street now turned into a rental with multiple families - legal?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Worst nightmare has happened - house down the street was sold and now they're renting out to multiple families and people. They now have multiple cars everywhere, have been parking on my neighbor's lawn, left trash strewn in the street because they don't care, and don't take care of the yard/property of course cause they're renters. Is it legal in Montgomery County to do this? Absolutely zero work and construction was done in the house, so the house is still built with rooms, kitchen, and bathroom like it is for a single family.
It's really justifying up the steet and declining the quality of life for everyone.
Worst nightmare??? Come on stop being a dramatic!! Also try living an apartment with shared walls and a bunch or people living next to you, above you to the side of you then come back here to fake cry.
Grow up.
Where do you live? Let's see how you like of the home next to you goes from a single family to now 5 families parking 8 cars now all in the drive way and in the yards and throwing trash all over the street in front of your house..let's see how much you'd like it.
But it's not the home next to you. You said it was down the street and next to your neighbor. I get it, though. What does your neighbor intend to do about it?
It's still a home on the same block, dimwit. One sh!tty house ruins the character of the neighborhood and home values. Then next house flees and then the next. Now the enitre area is a ghetto dump with cars parked all over lawns, trash in the streets, and crime increasing. That affects long time residents. Of course you're probably too dense to comprehend it..
This reminds me of the white flight of the 60's and 70's. Bring back redlining!