Anonymous
12/19/2023 19:55
Subject: Colorado case. To keep Trump off ballot
Anonymous wrote:[quoted=Anonymous]Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I couldn't find another thread about this but it is fascinating. My question is if Colorado case agrees that Trump incited an insurrection and refuse to put his no name on the ballot is this a state's right or is it federal. Where can Trump appeal?
https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/01/politics/colorado-14th-amendment-trump-day-three-takeaways/index.html
Question? It's totally partisan and they will. Supreme Court will rightfully overturn it but the state of CO will draaaaaagggg it out, hoping they can beat the clock.
Why do you think it’s partisan? If Trump planned the 1/6 events, how is it not violence against the government?
There is no evidence at ALL that Trump planned the 1/6 events. In fact, evidence shows he offered the National Guard when chatter suggested there might be violent parties there.
The judge is highly partisan.
Trump (or whomever is president at the time) is CinC of the DC National Guard. He doesn’t have to offer them up, he can activate them at any time.
I know, facts are stubborn things.
You people will excuse literally anything that Trump does.
Anonymous
12/19/2023 19:54
Subject: Colorado case. To keep Trump off ballot
I’m very much not a Trump fan and wholeheartedly believe this is terrible. Among other things, I’m against the courts making Trump’s lie true: they’re stealing the 2024 election.
Anonymous
12/19/2023 19:50
Subject: Colorado case. To keep Trump off ballot
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m not a Trump fan at all, but this move is ridiculously stupid. It only will it get overturned, it reeks of desperation. I rather have Trump just lose in 2024 because people hate him. But to kick him off the ballot is the opposite of democracy.
It's hardly "stupid."
The man incited a riot, an invasion of the US Capitol building, the deaths of police officers and his own supporters.
Don't you remember when he said that it was OK to dump the mags so his armed supporters would have full access to the Capitol building? Don't you remember he said he wasn't worried because their guns wouldn't be turned on him?
If that's not inciting an armed insurrection, an attack on the United States government, I don't know what is.
I hope every Blue state (and maybe some Red ones) will strike this traitor from their ballots.
States run federal elections. They have the right to do remove this traitor from their presidential ballots, and they have the moral obligation to do so in the name of preserving our democracy.
So you actually don’t believe in democracy then? Thanks for playing.
(DP) So you don't believe in our Constitution then, nor our democracy, since to you it is OK for a losing candidate to try to overthrow the government with violence and stay in office, and if that doesn't work, run again in spite of the 14th amendment's prohibition. Please, lecture us about our democracy.
Anonymous
12/19/2023 19:50
Subject: Colorado case. To keep Trump off ballot
[quoted=Anonymous]
There is no evidence at ALL that Trump planned the 1/6 events. In fact, evidence shows he offered the National Guard when chatter suggested there might be violent parties there.
The judge is highly partisan.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I couldn't find another thread about this but it is fascinating. My question is if Colorado case agrees that Trump incited an insurrection and refuse to put his no name on the ballot is this a state's right or is it federal. Where can Trump appeal?
https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/01/politics/colorado-14th-amendment-trump-day-three-takeaways/index.html
Question? It's totally partisan and they will. Supreme Court will rightfully overturn it but the state of CO will draaaaaagggg it out, hoping they can beat the clock.
Why do you think it’s partisan? If Trump planned the 1/6 events, how is it not violence against the government?
There is no evidence at ALL that Trump planned the 1/6 events. In fact, evidence shows he offered the National Guard when chatter suggested there might be violent parties there.
The judge is highly partisan.
Trump (or whomever is president at the time) is CinC of the DC National Guard. He doesn’t have to offer them up, he can activate them at any time.
I know, facts are stubborn things.
Anonymous
12/19/2023 19:48
Subject: Colorado case. To keep Trump off ballot
Anonymous wrote:As Biden collapses in the polls, and Trump rises, Democrats are going to resort to increasingly desperate -- and anti-democratic -- means to ensure Trump can't run, all while they insist that only they are the Guardians of Democracy.
This is playing with real fire!
Polls are notoriously unreliable /
Dems have never not yet stooped as low as Republicans to win at all costs and doubt that they will start now ..,
Republicans on the other hand, are willing to look the other way at endless election fraud lies, an insurrection, well documented fraud and corruption, compromising national security and cosying up with dictators over allies - all in the name of getting behind their most popular candidate. Misguided middle school popularity thinking does not get much worse .
I don’t think Trump could win the general election but am glad at least one state court is standing up for basic decency and common sense …
Anonymous
12/19/2023 19:46
Subject: Colorado case. To keep Trump off ballot
Anonymous wrote:I’m not a Trump fan at all, but this move is ridiculously stupid. It only will it get overturned, it reeks of desperation. I rather have Trump just lose in 2024 because people hate him. But to kick him off the ballot is the opposite of democracy.
It reeks of integrity. It's right and just and true to the letter and intent of the 14th Amendment.
Anonymous
12/19/2023 19:42
Subject: Colorado case. To keep Trump off ballot
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m not a Trump fan at all, but this move is ridiculously stupid. It only will it get overturned, it reeks of desperation. I rather have Trump just lose in 2024 because people hate him. But to kick him off the ballot is the opposite of democracy.
Um no, Trump lead an insurrection?!
This is a lie.
It isn’t. I was working for Congress on 1/6. Stop spreading misinformation. Trump is a criminal.
Anonymous
12/19/2023 19:40
Subject: Re:Colorado case. To keep Trump off ballot
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm a Dem and think this case is bad. Had folks wanted to try this route, they had months to do it. It only feeds into the riGGed eLecTion! narrative. Just have the loser run and beat him, again.
They had to wait until Trump declared as a candidate. They filed pretty soon after that.
And a process argument is the best you got? How about this: Trump needs to be repudiated at the ballot box. That's how democracy works.
If he's allowed on the ballot, or worse, back in office, the 14th Amendment is meaningless. States are obligated to uphold the Constitution.
Anonymous
12/19/2023 19:40
Subject: Colorado case. To keep Trump off ballot
The crazy Maggot Trolls are busy spreading lies over and over and over. DCUM is not really the place to do so, as from my observation, most DCUMers are well educated and intelligent (not the trolls).
The Maggots are still talking about the "stolen" 2020 election. Their brainwashed selves have turned into zombies. Fox News and Rupert Murdoch must rot in hell for all eternity for brainwashing these vulnerable people.
The Maggots are still talking about the "stolen" 2020 election. Their brainwashed selves have turned into zombies. Fox News and Rupert Murdoch must rot in hell for all eternity for brainwashing these vulnerable people.
Anonymous
12/19/2023 19:40
Subject: Colorado case. To keep Trump off ballot
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m not a Trump fan at all, but this move is ridiculously stupid. It only will it get overturned, it reeks of desperation. I rather have Trump just lose in 2024 because people hate him. But to kick him off the ballot is the opposite of democracy.
It's hardly "stupid."
The man incited a riot, an invasion of the US Capitol building, the deaths of police officers and his own supporters.
Don't you remember when he said that it was OK to dump the mags so his armed supporters would have full access to the Capitol building? Don't you remember he said he wasn't worried because their guns wouldn't be turned on him?
If that's not inciting an armed insurrection, an attack on the United States government, I don't know what is.
I hope every Blue state (and maybe some Red ones) will strike this traitor from their ballots.
States run federal elections. They have the right to do remove this traitor from their presidential ballots, and they have the moral obligation to do so in the name of preserving our democracy.
So you actually don’t believe in democracy then? Thanks for playing.
Anonymous
12/19/2023 19:40
Subject: Colorado case. To keep Trump off ballot
The last time a presidential candidate was kept off the ballot by individual states was in 1860, I believe, when Southern states banned Lincoln from the ballot.
Read from it what you want. But this is an interesting development and likely to backfire spectacularly on the Democrats. Turnip is likely Republican candidate by a blowout margin, and is leading Biden in all the polls and with significant leads in most swing states.
Really not understanding why the Democrats didn't do what they should have done, left him alone to moulder in his Florida mansion. But they've turned him into a victim. Oy vey.
Read from it what you want. But this is an interesting development and likely to backfire spectacularly on the Democrats. Turnip is likely Republican candidate by a blowout margin, and is leading Biden in all the polls and with significant leads in most swing states.
Really not understanding why the Democrats didn't do what they should have done, left him alone to moulder in his Florida mansion. But they've turned him into a victim. Oy vey.
Anonymous
12/19/2023 19:37
Subject: Colorado case. To keep Trump off ballot
Anonymous wrote:I’m not a Trump fan at all, but this move is ridiculously stupid. It only will it get overturned, it reeks of desperation. I rather have Trump just lose in 2024 because people hate him. But to kick him off the ballot is the opposite of democracy.
It's hardly "stupid."
The man incited a riot, an invasion of the US Capitol building, the deaths of police officers and his own supporters.
Don't you remember when he said that it was OK to dump the mags so his armed supporters would have full access to the Capitol building? Don't you remember he said he wasn't worried because their guns wouldn't be turned on him?
If that's not inciting an armed insurrection, an attack on the United States government, I don't know what is.
I hope every Blue state (and maybe some Red ones) will strike this traitor from their ballots.
States run federal elections. They have the right to do remove this traitor from their presidential ballots, and they have the moral obligation to do so in the name of preserving our democracy.
Anonymous
12/19/2023 19:25
Subject: Colorado case. To keep Trump off ballot
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m not a Trump fan at all, but this move is ridiculously stupid. It only will it get overturned, it reeks of desperation. I rather have Trump just lose in 2024 because people hate him. But to kick him off the ballot is the opposite of democracy.
Um no, Trump lead an insurrection?!
This is a lie.
Anonymous
12/19/2023 19:24
Subject: Colorado case. To keep Trump off ballot
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I couldn't find another thread about this but it is fascinating. My question is if Colorado case agrees that Trump incited an insurrection and refuse to put his no name on the ballot is this a state's right or is it federal. Where can Trump appeal?
https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/01/politics/colorado-14th-amendment-trump-day-three-takeaways/index.html
Question? It's totally partisan and they will. Supreme Court will rightfully overturn it but the state of CO will draaaaaagggg it out, hoping they can beat the clock.
Why do you think it’s partisan? If Trump planned the 1/6 events, how is it not violence against the government?
There is no evidence at ALL that Trump planned the 1/6 events. In fact, evidence shows he offered the National Guard when chatter suggested there might be violent parties there.
The judge is highly partisan.
Let's not let facts get in the way of anything. This is not the place for that.
Anonymous
12/19/2023 19:23
Subject: Colorado case. To keep Trump off ballot
As Biden collapses in the polls, and Trump rises, Democrats are going to resort to increasingly desperate -- and anti-democratic -- means to ensure Trump can't run, all while they insist that only they are the Guardians of Democracy.
This is playing with real fire!
This is playing with real fire!