Anonymous
10/31/2023 17:33
Subject: Re:LGBTQ+ Friendly Catholic High Schools?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why you people who don't actually believe in Catholicism keep wanting to send your kids to Catholic schools. There are plenty of liberal privates out there. Pick any of them and leave the Catholic schools to people who actually want a space where they can be Catholics.
There are plenty of LGBTQ Catholics.
OP said it is just because the schools are close to her house. Do not pick a school that a community built to support their own beliefs and go in and try to reap the benefits while not holding yourself to their rules. That is so disrespectful.
+1 million. Imagine catholics going to some woke secular school and trying to tell them being gay is bad. They would get shredded to pieces.
..are...are you being serious here? oh boy the lack of awareness in this comment
NP - I guess I share the PP's lack of awareness, because I too think that the OP's attitude is disrespectful toward the Catholic schools. and yes, I am being serious. Tolerance is a two way street.
No, this is the fallacy of tolerance. We do not have to tolerate the intolerant. Given how well-represented the religious group is in the current push to ban and burn books in schools and libraries throughout the nation, the lack of awareness is amazing. No one is being disrespectful. But I suppose it is as they say, though, when one is used to privilege, equality feels like oppression.
The religious group behind that push is Evangelical Protestants, not Catholics.
Anonymous
10/31/2023 17:20
Subject: Re:LGBTQ+ Friendly Catholic High Schools?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why you people who don't actually believe in Catholicism keep wanting to send your kids to Catholic schools. There are plenty of liberal privates out there. Pick any of them and leave the Catholic schools to people who actually want a space where they can be Catholics.
There are plenty of LGBTQ Catholics.
OP said it is just because the schools are close to her house. Do not pick a school that a community built to support their own beliefs and go in and try to reap the benefits while not holding yourself to their rules. That is so disrespectful.
+1 million. Imagine catholics going to some woke secular school and trying to tell them being gay is bad. They would get shredded to pieces.
..are...are you being serious here? oh boy the lack of awareness in this comment
NP - I guess I share the PP's lack of awareness, because I too think that the OP's attitude is disrespectful toward the Catholic schools. and yes, I am being serious. Tolerance is a two way street.
No, this is the fallacy of tolerance. We do not have to tolerate the intolerant. Given how well-represented the religious group is in the current push to ban and burn books in schools and libraries throughout the nation, the lack of awareness is amazing. No one is being disrespectful. But I suppose it is as they say, though, when one is used to privilege, equality feels like oppression.
This comment made me laugh out loud. Add in a “do better” and a “your privilege is showing” to have the maximum liberal outrage sarcasm effect.
Anonymous
10/31/2023 17:19
Subject: Re:LGBTQ+ Friendly Catholic High Schools?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why you people who don't actually believe in Catholicism keep wanting to send your kids to Catholic schools. There are plenty of liberal privates out there. Pick any of them and leave the Catholic schools to people who actually want a space where they can be Catholics.
There are plenty of LGBTQ Catholics.
That doesn't mean that catholic schools are going to have clubs centered around a sexuality or support same-sex couples at the prom. Expecting to be treated with respect is one thing, expecting to be celebrated is another.
This is well said.
Anonymous
10/31/2023 17:01
Subject: Re:LGBTQ+ Friendly Catholic High Schools?
Sounds like you should be mad at your catholic schools who allow, even invite, noncatholics to attend.
I have always supported non-Catholics attending Catholic school. In the last few years, however, it has been very different. Pre-Covid there were parents who wanted the Catholic environment for the discipline, traditional academics, and community. Even in the 80s, I had classmates that were Jewish and schoolmates who were Muslim. It was a plus IMO.
In the past few years, I
think many parents who would never otherwise choose a Catholic school for DC are looking at them because public schools are failing their children. It is a subtle difference, but it is felt strongly.
Glad my youngest will be out soon.
Anonymous
10/31/2023 16:40
Subject: Re:LGBTQ+ Friendly Catholic High Schools?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP here. I'm just posing these questions for research on specific schools. Not trying to skirt any rules or reap benefits without respecting the Faith. We are a Catholic family with an LGBTQ (immediate) family member and we don't want our child to be exposed to homophobic rhetoric or practices. Public school isn't working and the tuition at liberal privates is too much. I'd like to believe there are a few schools, even just one or two, (like McNamara!) that are welcoming to the gay community.
I’m sympathetic to you because everything here, including education, is too dang expensive, but that doesn’t mean that your child is entitled to go to a Catholic school or that they should water down their beliefs to appeal to you. I’m Catholic and certainly struggle with certain teachings. But it drives me absolutely crazy when non-Catholics want to have their cake and eat it too. Please don’t be openly disdainful of the Church and then elbow your way into a space created for its members.
The Catholic schools would be shut down if not for the tuition money coming from non-Catholics. The schools were never intended to be a place where Catholics could hide from the secular world. They were intended to give children from all backgrounds a chance to understand Catholicism and benefit from a classical education. To paraphrase Archbishop Hickey, it's not because they're Catholic but because we're Catholic. The fact that y'all can get people into the schools but not the pews should make you think a bit harder about how you treat those most in need of love and support. The schools that are extending support to marginalized groups are the best hope that the Church has for being relevant 50 years from now.
This post is filled with MISINFORMATION!
Catholic schools were founded in reaction to the public schools at the time tracing Protestant religious principles. Their founding had absolutely nothing to do with spreading Catholicism.
The “because we are Catholic” quote had to do with the Church keeping inner city schools open even though most of the Catholics had moved away from these neighborhoods.
It was not a rationale for letting large numbers of non-Catholics into Catholic schools so they can enjoy the lower tuition.
Where do you get this stuff? Just pull it out of thin air?
Anonymous
10/31/2023 15:54
Subject: Re:LGBTQ+ Friendly Catholic High Schools?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP here. I'm just posing these questions for research on specific schools. Not trying to skirt any rules or reap benefits without respecting the Faith. We are a Catholic family with an LGBTQ (immediate) family member and we don't want our child to be exposed to homophobic rhetoric or practices. Public school isn't working and the tuition at liberal privates is too much. I'd like to believe there are a few schools, even just one or two, (like McNamara!) that are welcoming to the gay community.
I’m sympathetic to you because everything here, including education, is too dang expensive, but that doesn’t mean that your child is entitled to go to a Catholic school or that they should water down their beliefs to appeal to you. I’m Catholic and certainly struggle with certain teachings. But it drives me absolutely crazy when non-Catholics want to have their cake and eat it too. Please don’t be openly disdainful of the Church and then elbow your way into a space created for its members.
The Catholic schools would be shut down if not for the tuition money coming from non-Catholics. The schools were never intended to be a place where Catholics could hide from the secular world. They were intended to give children from all backgrounds a chance to understand Catholicism and benefit from a classical education. To paraphrase Archbishop Hickey, it's not because they're Catholic but because we're Catholic. The fact that y'all can get people into the schools but not the pews should make you think a bit harder about how you treat those most in need of love and support. The schools that are extending support to marginalized groups are the best hope that the Church has for being relevant 50 years from now.
Anonymous
10/31/2023 15:43
Subject: Re:LGBTQ+ Friendly Catholic High Schools?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why you people who don't actually believe in Catholicism keep wanting to send your kids to Catholic schools. There are plenty of liberal privates out there. Pick any of them and leave the Catholic schools to people who actually want a space where they can be Catholics.
There are plenty of LGBTQ Catholics.
OP said it is just because the schools are close to her house. Do not pick a school that a community built to support their own beliefs and go in and try to reap the benefits while not holding yourself to their rules. That is so disrespectful.
+1 million. Imagine catholics going to some woke secular school and trying to tell them being gay is bad. They would get shredded to pieces.
..are...are you being serious here? oh boy the lack of awareness in this comment
NP - I guess I share the PP's lack of awareness, because I too think that the OP's attitude is disrespectful toward the Catholic schools. and yes, I am being serious. Tolerance is a two way street.
No, this is the fallacy of tolerance. We do not have to tolerate the intolerant. Given how well-represented the religious group is in the current push to ban and burn books in schools and libraries throughout the nation, the lack of awareness is amazing. No one is being disrespectful. But I suppose it is as they say, though, when one is used to privilege, equality feels like oppression.
Anonymous
10/31/2023 15:42
Subject: Re:LGBTQ+ Friendly Catholic High Schools?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why you people who don't actually believe in Catholicism keep wanting to send your kids to Catholic schools. There are plenty of liberal privates out there. Pick any of them and leave the Catholic schools to people who actually want a space where they can be Catholics.
Sounds like you should be mad at your catholic schools who allow, even invite, noncatholics to attend.
It's hard to even address people that use the term "you people", like they are too far gone already.
Anonymous
10/31/2023 15:42
Subject: Re:LGBTQ+ Friendly Catholic High Schools?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why you people who don't actually believe in Catholicism keep wanting to send your kids to Catholic schools. There are plenty of liberal privates out there. Pick any of them and leave the Catholic schools to people who actually want a space where they can be Catholics.
There are plenty of LGBTQ Catholics.
OP said it is just because the schools are close to her house. Do not pick a school that a community built to support their own beliefs and go in and try to reap the benefits while not holding yourself to their rules. That is so disrespectful.
+1 million. Imagine catholics going to some woke secular school and trying to tell them being gay is bad. They would get shredded to pieces.
..are...are you being serious here? oh boy the lack of awareness in this comment
NP - I guess I share the PP's lack of awareness, because I too think that the OP's attitude is disrespectful toward the Catholic schools. and yes, I am being serious. Tolerance is a two way street.
Because 40% of the ADW catholic school students are not catholic, even at the Heights.
So why would you specifically say that students who support LGBT rights should not attend? Also what about do unto others, and community and love one another.
I know people like you, Catholics that thump the bible but treat others like crap. Well you don't represent the majority of Catholics.
So yes, non-Catholics are welcome.
Anonymous
10/31/2023 15:41
Subject: Re:LGBTQ+ Friendly Catholic High Schools?
Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why you people who don't actually believe in Catholicism keep wanting to send your kids to Catholic schools. There are plenty of liberal privates out there. Pick any of them and leave the Catholic schools to people who actually want a space where they can be Catholics.
Sounds like you should be mad at your catholic schools who allow, even invite, noncatholics to attend.
Anonymous
10/31/2023 15:38
Subject: Re:LGBTQ+ Friendly Catholic High Schools?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP here. I'm just posing these questions for research on specific schools. Not trying to skirt any rules or reap benefits without respecting the Faith. We are a Catholic family with an LGBTQ (immediate) family member and we don't want our child to be exposed to homophobic rhetoric or practices. Public school isn't working and the tuition at liberal privates is too much. I'd like to believe there are a few schools, even just one or two, (like McNamara!) that are welcoming to the gay community.
They are mutually exclusive. Either pay for a school where your family will actually be respected, or stay in public.
Or look into the Catholic ones suggested.
Even if you try to go to the ones that skirt what the church teaches and is tolerant and accepting despite what the church stands for, you are still funding an organization that is fundamentally against treating entire groups of people with dignity and respect.
Anonymous
10/31/2023 15:38
Subject: LGBTQ+ Friendly Catholic High Schools?
Anonymous wrote:PP again, I obviously brain-farted when asking about your kid’s age because you’re asking about HS. Kid is old enough to hear and handle what people say, and s/he is going to hear some of that bs wherever you end up, but again, more from kids than from teachers. Homophobia isn’t explicitly taught in Catholic schools. Help your child think about how they might want to respond in various situations (overhears something, a friend says something, someone says something specific about your relative, etc).
Uhhhh yes, yes it is.
Anonymous
10/31/2023 15:37
Subject: Re:LGBTQ+ Friendly Catholic High Schools?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why you people who don't actually believe in Catholicism keep wanting to send your kids to Catholic schools. There are plenty of liberal privates out there. Pick any of them and leave the Catholic schools to people who actually want a space where they can be Catholics.
There are plenty of LGBTQ Catholics.
OP said it is just because the schools are close to her house. Do not pick a school that a community built to support their own beliefs and go in and try to reap the benefits while not holding yourself to their rules. That is so disrespectful.
+1 million. Imagine catholics going to some woke secular school and trying to tell them being gay is bad. They would get shredded to pieces.
..are...are you being serious here? oh boy the lack of awareness in this comment
NP - I guess I share the PP's lack of awareness, because I too think that the OP's attitude is disrespectful toward the Catholic schools. and yes, I am being serious. Tolerance is a two way street.
Anonymous
10/31/2023 15:20
Subject: Re:LGBTQ+ Friendly Catholic High Schools?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP here. I'm just posing these questions for research on specific schools. Not trying to skirt any rules or reap benefits without respecting the Faith. We are a Catholic family with an LGBTQ (immediate) family member and we don't want our child to be exposed to homophobic rhetoric or practices. Public school isn't working and the tuition at liberal privates is too much. I'd like to believe there are a few schools, even just one or two, (like McNamara!) that are welcoming to the gay community.
They are mutually exclusive. Either pay for a school where your family will actually be respected, or stay in public.
Or look into the Catholic ones suggested.
Anonymous
10/31/2023 15:19
Subject: Re:LGBTQ+ Friendly Catholic High Schools?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why you people who don't actually believe in Catholicism keep wanting to send your kids to Catholic schools. There are plenty of liberal privates out there. Pick any of them and leave the Catholic schools to people who actually want a space where they can be Catholics.
There are plenty of LGBTQ Catholics.
Yes, but that's presumably because they enjoy being persecuted. Religion is a choice, not innate.
No it's because some Catholics don't let men run them out of the church simply because they make up some rules that have nothing to do with Jesus's teachings.