Anonymous
10/11/2023 17:58
Subject: What happens if they're not accepted anywhere?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:She does community college and applies again for the sophomore year.
She's a straight-A student. We're not looking for Ivy League, but I'd be pissed if it came to this, to put it mildly.
If that's the case, than she needs to add some safeties that wouldn't make you pissed.
Also, she wouldn't be the only straight A student at community college.
Depends. Huge difference between A's in AP classes and A's in remedial ones.
It's true, and that's how there are straight A students at community colleges. You honestly think 2-year schools are filled with straight-A honors students? Come on.
Tell me you never attended a community college without telling me you never attended a cc.
I know someone who graduated hs at 16yo with over a year's worth of college credits but ended up at the cc because they chose to study a health career. Several of them (nursing, xray tech, ultrasound) require very high gpas.
I know a man who attended a cc, transferred to a top-20 lac and earned an ivy league PhD in a science field. He went to cc because his parents divorced his senior year of hs ruined his financial aid chances.
I know someone who attended cc for financial reasons and transferred to a top-30 university.
There are plenty of very bright people at Montgomery College and Northern VA CC who are there for financial reasons or because they're changing careers.
Lol.
Why are you laughing? Cal and local Md have excellent community colleges . Our DC attended a UC for stem subject and there were many transfers from CCs in junior and senior years.
Anonymous
10/11/2023 17:56
Subject: What happens if they're not accepted anywhere?
Anonymous wrote:I know, this is partly just the anxiety of the whole process. But DD has only applied to one safety which is honestly more like a lower target, in my opinion. Do I insist she apply for a few more places with a 90%+ acceptance rate? Let the natural consequences happen? I don't want to harp, and I'm pretty amenable to the schools she has chosen, just think she needs a better backup.
I insisted my older DC had an equal number
of so called safeties as matches and reaches. They even ended attending one of the safeties (despite getting into a number of reaches and matches) as it was the best overall fit.
So I would encourage many more safeties and they may even find some safeties are highly desirable.
There are quite a few good universities that have high admit rates.
Anonymous
10/11/2023 17:43
Subject: What happens if they're not accepted anywhere?
The only way someone can not be accepted anywhere is to not include on their list any legitimate safeties- a school that admits (virtually) everyone and is out-of-pocket affordable.
Nobody is “too good” for a school. Part of adulthood is accepting you may sometimes do everything right and still not be rewarded.
Nobody is “too good” for a school. Part of adulthood is accepting you may sometimes do everything right and still not be rewarded.
Anonymous
10/11/2023 17:42
Subject: What happens if they're not accepted anywhere?
Why not euthanize the anxiety altogether and apply early to some of the many schools that offer rolling decisions. Kansas was mentioned somewhere in this thread…my kid got an acceptance less than a week after applying. Same for University of Arizona. I’m not comparing either to Harvard, but it removed at least of hint of semi-rational anxiety. This is an easily solvable problem if it’s a genuine concern.
Anonymous
10/11/2023 17:37
Subject: What happens if they're not accepted anywhere?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:She does community college and applies again for the sophomore year.
She's a straight-A student. We're not looking for Ivy League, but I'd be pissed if it came to this, to put it mildly.
Yes, definitely apply to some others. You know which ones she is applying to, so that means you know, or can easily research, which ones are similar but have higher admissions rates. Pick those out, and then just sit down with her next to the computer some Saturday afternoon and just do it.
This. I never understand kids dreaming of Michigan (OOS) who don't also apply early to IU. Or UVA (OOS) dreamers who don't apply also early to KU. Or Williams dreamers who don't also apply to St. Lawrence. Etc. There surely are schools on her list that have near-doppelgangers that are substantially less rejective--she should apply to those near-doppelgangers. (Plural: It's a mental health win to have more acceptances than rejections, at at least multiple acceptances to choose between/among.)
What is KU? I completely understand at least a family that will pay for Williams but not St. Lawrence. It makes sense to swap out flagships, but SLACs are not an easy swap.
DP: But someone who is a candidate for Williams is likely going to get lots of merit aid at St. Lawrence.
Yes this. My now college junior applied to st Lawrence as a safety, got in with $40k in ANNUAL merit aid. Honestly it was hard for her to turn down since it was so generous. Same for my DS, he applied to Wooster as a safety and got about $30k in annual merit.
You are not going to be full pay at these schools if they are safeties per the stats.
Anonymous
10/11/2023 17:23
Subject: What happens if they're not accepted anywhere?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:She does community college and applies again for the sophomore year.
She's a straight-A student. We're not looking for Ivy League, but I'd be pissed if it came to this, to put it mildly.
If that's the case, than she needs to add some safeties that wouldn't make you pissed.
Also, she wouldn't be the only straight A student at community college.
Depends. Huge difference between A's in AP classes and A's in remedial ones.
It's true, and that's how there are straight A students at community colleges. You honestly think 2-year schools are filled with straight-A honors students? Come on.
Tell me you never attended a community college without telling me you never attended a cc.
I know someone who graduated hs at 16yo with over a year's worth of college credits but ended up at the cc because they chose to study a health career. Several of them (nursing, xray tech, ultrasound) require very high gpas.
I know a man who attended a cc, transferred to a top-20 lac and earned an ivy league PhD in a science field. He went to cc because his parents divorced his senior year of hs ruined his financial aid chances.
I know someone who attended cc for financial reasons and transferred to a top-30 university.
There are plenty of very bright people at Montgomery College and Northern VA CC who are there for financial reasons or because they're changing careers.
Anonymous
10/11/2023 17:04
Subject: What happens if they're not accepted anywhere?
Gap year
Anonymous
10/11/2023 16:56
Subject: What happens if they're not accepted anywhere?
Find a safety or 2 that has at least one thing she really likes, so if she ends up there she can say it was because of the bigtime football program (Oklahoma), the bigtime basketball team (Kansas), the beaches (Hawaii) , the beautiful campus (Miami of Ohio), the weather, the skiing, an interesting city, a particularly good program, etc. At least then she’s got something to point to when someone asks why she’s going there, rather than just accepting a watered-down version of where she really wants to go.
Anonymous
10/11/2023 16:19
Subject: What happens if they're not accepted anywhere?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:She does community college and applies again for the sophomore year.
She's a straight-A student. We're not looking for Ivy League, but I'd be pissed if it came to this, to put it mildly.
If that's the case, than she needs to add some safeties that wouldn't make you pissed.
Also, she wouldn't be the only straight A student at community college.
Depends. Huge difference between A's in AP classes and A's in remedial ones.
It's true, and that's how there are straight A students at community colleges. You honestly think 2-year schools are filled with straight-A honors students? Come on.
Anonymous
10/11/2023 16:14
Subject: What happens if they're not accepted anywhere?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:She does community college and applies again for the sophomore year.
She's a straight-A student. We're not looking for Ivy League, but I'd be pissed if it came to this, to put it mildly.
If that's the case, than she needs to add some safeties that wouldn't make you pissed.
Also, she wouldn't be the only straight A student at community college.
Depends. Huge difference between A's in AP classes and A's in remedial ones.
Anonymous
10/11/2023 16:12
Subject: What happens if they're not accepted anywhere?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:She does community college and applies again for the sophomore year.
She's a straight-A student. We're not looking for Ivy League, but I'd be pissed if it came to this, to put it mildly.
If that's the case, than she needs to add some safeties that wouldn't make you pissed.
Also, she wouldn't be the only straight A student at community college.
Depends. Huge difference between A's in AP classes and A's in remedial ones.
Anonymous
10/11/2023 16:12
Subject: Re:What happens if they're not accepted anywhere?
Anonymous
10/11/2023 16:12
Subject: What happens if they're not accepted anywhere?
My safety school was a SLAC that had at the time around a 50-60% acceptance rate. I realized once I was in college that it was very risky to not have had a true safety, though I did get in there and a couple of other places.
The funny thing is that my non-safety safety school from the 90s now has something like a 10% acceptance rate and one of my kids goes there. (It's not where I attended).
The funny thing is that my non-safety safety school from the 90s now has something like a 10% acceptance rate and one of my kids goes there. (It's not where I attended).
Anonymous
10/11/2023 16:06
Subject: What happens if they're not accepted anywhere?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:She does community college and applies again for the sophomore year.
She's a straight-A student. We're not looking for Ivy League, but I'd be pissed if it came to this, to put it mildly.
If that's the case, than she needs to add some safeties that wouldn't make you pissed.
Also, she wouldn't be the only straight A student at community college.
Anonymous
10/11/2023 16:05
Subject: What happens if they're not accepted anywhere?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:She does community college and applies again for the sophomore year.
She's a straight-A student. We're not looking for Ivy League, but I'd be pissed if it came to this, to put it mildly.
Yes, definitely apply to some others. You know which ones she is applying to, so that means you know, or can easily research, which ones are similar but have higher admissions rates. Pick those out, and then just sit down with her next to the computer some Saturday afternoon and just do it.
This. I never understand kids dreaming of Michigan (OOS) who don't also apply early to IU. Or UVA (OOS) dreamers who don't apply also early to KU. Or Williams dreamers who don't also apply to St. Lawrence. Etc. There surely are schools on her list that have near-doppelgangers that are substantially less rejective--she should apply to those near-doppelgangers. (Plural: It's a mental health win to have more acceptances than rejections, at at least multiple acceptances to choose between/among.)
What is KU? I completely understand at least a family that will pay for Williams but not St. Lawrence. It makes sense to swap out flagships, but SLACs are not an easy swap.
DP: But someone who is a candidate for Williams is likely going to get lots of merit aid at St. Lawrence.