Anonymous
10/20/2023 09:54
Subject: Are Teslas Basically Corollas Now?
The engineering quality of the car is quite low, on par with cars made in the 1990s.
Yes it has better software and other high tech features but the actual build quality is meh. Look at the quality of the handles, the fit and poor door, trunk alignment, etc. I am sure they would be much better in another 10-20 years in these, but right now quality is pathetic.
Yes it has better software and other high tech features but the actual build quality is meh. Look at the quality of the handles, the fit and poor door, trunk alignment, etc. I am sure they would be much better in another 10-20 years in these, but right now quality is pathetic.
Anonymous
10/19/2023 21:32
Subject: Are Teslas Basically Corollas Now?
Tesla is a low end, high volume car company and prices will continue to drop to match the limited demand.
Anonymous
10/19/2023 16:02
Subject: Are Teslas Basically Corollas Now?
Everyone has a Tesla, OP. They have not been special for a few years now. But now they are even cheaper!
Anonymous
10/19/2023 15:58
Subject: Are Teslas Basically Corollas Now?
Anonymous wrote:Yes, the Rivians, the Lucids, the Polestars- all better looking vehicles these days.
The Lucid cars are beautiful! I saw one on 495 recently and had no idea what it was. I had to Google Lucid when I got home to check it out.
The Lucid models are around $10k more than the Model S but they look like they're about $30k more in terms of sleekness, tbh. I was surprised to find out the Lucid was under $100k.
Anonymous
10/19/2023 15:39
Subject: Are Teslas Basically Corollas Now?
Anonymous wrote:I find this Musk hatred silly. People throwing histrionics because he bought twitter AND revealed that government agencies were doing stuff they really shouldn't have been doing aka censorship. And "combating misinformation" while producing plenty of their own misinformation. Doesn't that bother you? By the way, there's a major court case going on with the Biden Administration being slammed down by the courts at all levels for violating the 1st Amendment - and the Twitter files were definitely part of it.
Anyway, it still doesn't mean I worship Musk or that he isn't capable of being unpredictable or even stupid at times. I really don't care about Musk himself. But his Tesla company does seem to make a very good car.
The low level Tesla is increasingly affordable when compared to other cars in the market thanks to all the tax breaks. The high level Teslas are much more expensive. It's not surprising that the low level Teslas should be becoming commonplace if they're both affordable AND cheaper to maintain. I have a Subaru Outback which I do like very much but it's now six years old and upkeep isn't exactly cheap, even if not as bad as an Audi or Volvo would be. I only drive for errands and short commutes and rarely do long road trips. By many accounts, the Tesla would be ideal and more economical. It's definitely a car I'll be looking at more closely when the time comes.
The thread is about the car itself being basic--the people complaining about Musk aren't really the point. Try to keep up.
And yes, there are good alternative options with equivalent range in the same price bracket.
Anonymous
10/19/2023 15:38
Subject: Are Teslas Basically Corollas Now?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It says I am a white, old, rich, democratic stick in the mud.
Jerry, a Palo Alto-based car insurance savings company, found that 70% of the Tesla drivers were 34-years-old or younger, and that about one-third of Tesla drivers studied had a master's degree or doctoral degree as compared to only 13% of the US population. Among Tesla owners, the most common occupations were engineer, manager of operations, and software engineer.
Tesla ownership in California likely skews younger than the country as a whole, as other surveys of Tesla ownership have put the average Tesla Model 3/Y buyer to be 48-52yo with masters or doctoral degree.
Probably most EV owners are well educated--this isn't something specific to Tesla owners. I went to Wharton for grad and drive an ID.4.
Anonymous
10/18/2023 12:17
Subject: Re:Are Teslas Basically Corollas Now?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Nah, the Corolla is a significantly better car.
made me smile. Yes. Toyota production quality is MUCH higher than Tesla (Toyota will fix every small error and only sends out new cars that are in perfect condition. Tesla does not have the same quality standards. Profit margin on Tesla used to be way higher -- all that means is that the actual quality of the car is much worse than what people are willing to pay.)
#corollasforlife
My parents' '87 corolla ran like a scalded dog right up until it was put out to pasture at 270K miles. Beastly car.
Anonymous
10/16/2023 14:34
Subject: Are Teslas Basically Corollas Now?
Anonymous wrote:It says I am a white, old, rich, democratic stick in the mud.
Jerry, a Palo Alto-based car insurance savings company, found that 70% of the Tesla drivers were 34-years-old or younger, and that about one-third of Tesla drivers studied had a master's degree or doctoral degree as compared to only 13% of the US population. Among Tesla owners, the most common occupations were engineer, manager of operations, and software engineer.
Tesla ownership in California likely skews younger than the country as a whole, as other surveys of Tesla ownership have put the average Tesla Model 3/Y buyer to be 48-52yo with masters or doctoral degree.
Anonymous
10/16/2023 13:47
Subject: Are Teslas Basically Corollas Now?
Anonymous wrote:It says I am a white, old, rich, democratic stick in the mud.
Most of the people I know who have one aren’t even white.
Anonymous
10/16/2023 13:31
Subject: Are Teslas Basically Corollas Now?
I'm embarrassed for Tesla drivers, good thing most have tinted out windows so you can't see the fool driving!
Anonymous
10/16/2023 13:12
Subject: Are Teslas Basically Corollas Now?
It says I am a white, old, rich, democratic stick in the mud.
Anonymous
10/15/2023 22:22
Subject: Re:Are Teslas Basically Corollas Now?
Anonymous wrote:This thread is ridiculous. The Tesla is the iPhone of cars. The hardware and software are years ahead of anything else on the road. It’s the best car under $100K and anyone with a lick of sense (and access to charging) would own one. Buying something else is akin to cutting off one’s nose to spite one’s face.
Nah
Anonymous
10/15/2023 22:07
Subject: Are Teslas Basically Corollas Now?
Anonymous wrote:I find this Musk hatred silly. People throwing histrionics because he bought twitter AND revealed that government agencies were doing stuff they really shouldn't have been doing aka censorship. And "combating misinformation" while producing plenty of their own misinformation. Doesn't that bother you? By the way, there's a major court case going on with the Biden Administration being slammed down by the courts at all levels for violating the 1st Amendment - and the Twitter files were definitely part of it.
Anyway, it still doesn't mean I worship Musk or that he isn't capable of being unpredictable or even stupid at times. I really don't care about Musk himself. But his Tesla company does seem to make a very good car.
The low level Tesla is increasingly affordable when compared to other cars in the market thanks to all the tax breaks. The high level Teslas are much more expensive. It's not surprising that the low level Teslas should be becoming commonplace if they're both affordable AND cheaper to maintain. I have a Subaru Outback which I do like very much but it's now six years old and upkeep isn't exactly cheap, even if not as bad as an Audi or Volvo would be. I only drive for errands and short commutes and rarely do long road trips. By many accounts, the Tesla would be ideal and more economical. It's definitely a car I'll be looking at more closely when the time comes.
Dafuq are you prattling on about you loon
Anonymous
10/15/2023 21:53
Subject: Re:Are Teslas Basically Corollas Now?
This thread is ridiculous. The Tesla is the iPhone of cars. The hardware and software are years ahead of anything else on the road. It’s the best car under $100K and anyone with a lick of sense (and access to charging) would own one. Buying something else is akin to cutting off one’s nose to spite one’s face.
Anonymous
10/15/2023 21:07
Subject: Are Teslas Basically Corollas Now?
I find this Musk hatred silly. People throwing histrionics because he bought twitter AND revealed that government agencies were doing stuff they really shouldn't have been doing aka censorship. And "combating misinformation" while producing plenty of their own misinformation. Doesn't that bother you? By the way, there's a major court case going on with the Biden Administration being slammed down by the courts at all levels for violating the 1st Amendment - and the Twitter files were definitely part of it.
Anyway, it still doesn't mean I worship Musk or that he isn't capable of being unpredictable or even stupid at times. I really don't care about Musk himself. But his Tesla company does seem to make a very good car.
The low level Tesla is increasingly affordable when compared to other cars in the market thanks to all the tax breaks. The high level Teslas are much more expensive. It's not surprising that the low level Teslas should be becoming commonplace if they're both affordable AND cheaper to maintain. I have a Subaru Outback which I do like very much but it's now six years old and upkeep isn't exactly cheap, even if not as bad as an Audi or Volvo would be. I only drive for errands and short commutes and rarely do long road trips. By many accounts, the Tesla would be ideal and more economical. It's definitely a car I'll be looking at more closely when the time comes.
Anyway, it still doesn't mean I worship Musk or that he isn't capable of being unpredictable or even stupid at times. I really don't care about Musk himself. But his Tesla company does seem to make a very good car.
The low level Tesla is increasingly affordable when compared to other cars in the market thanks to all the tax breaks. The high level Teslas are much more expensive. It's not surprising that the low level Teslas should be becoming commonplace if they're both affordable AND cheaper to maintain. I have a Subaru Outback which I do like very much but it's now six years old and upkeep isn't exactly cheap, even if not as bad as an Audi or Volvo would be. I only drive for errands and short commutes and rarely do long road trips. By many accounts, the Tesla would be ideal and more economical. It's definitely a car I'll be looking at more closely when the time comes.