Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's really strange to see expression of school spirit or pride as a negative. It's evidence of a good community. It's a good thing when alumni love their college. It's a good thing when the school's network is strong. It's not "cocky" to be proud of your college. It's a pretty normal thing...unless you went to a school that didn't have much school spirit.
UVA grads (and Tech grades, for that matter) are a lot like grads from where I went to school. Super proud, wear the school gear, get together for watch parties, hope our kids consider it when their time comes, etc.
Being cocky is no problem. It is a problem when UVA grads start to believe (irrationally) that UVA is clearly better than Michigan, better than UCLA etc. and comparing and attacking other schools and acting superior to graduates of other equal or better schools. I noticed that you decided not to touch upon that issue and instead pretended to be all dumb... and throw out "what is wrong with displaying school spirit?" BS.
Outside of DCUM, UVA grads simply don’t feel this way. There’s an irrational hatred of UVA on this board, and I’m convinced it’s because it annoys the shit out of people because it’s so highly ranked and so much cheaper than privates and DCUM can’t get their kids in.
+1.
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Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's really strange to see expression of school spirit or pride as a negative. It's evidence of a good community. It's a good thing when alumni love their college. It's a good thing when the school's network is strong. It's not "cocky" to be proud of your college. It's a pretty normal thing...unless you went to a school that didn't have much school spirit.
UVA grads (and Tech grades, for that matter) are a lot like grads from where I went to school. Super proud, wear the school gear, get together for watch parties, hope our kids consider it when their time comes, etc.
Being cocky is no problem. It is a problem when UVA grads start to believe (irrationally) that UVA is clearly better than Michigan, better than UCLA etc. and comparing and attacking other schools and acting superior to graduates of other equal or better schools. I noticed that you decided not to touch upon that issue and instead pretended to be all dumb... and throw out "what is wrong with displaying school spirit?" BS.
Outside of DCUM, UVA grads simply don’t feel this way. There’s an irrational hatred of UVA on this board, and I’m convinced it’s because it annoys the shit out of people because it’s so highly ranked and so much cheaper than privates and DCUM can’t get their kids in.
+1.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You gotta love the helpful posters on this board! What 3-4 people actually answering the question?
Exactly. OP, you should consider the responses of parents of recent or current students, none of which is obnoxiously pro-UVA, and then you should consider the others. Because if your son attends UVA, that’s what your jealous neighbors will be saying about you and your kid behind your back.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't know if this addresses your question, but the UVA grads I know might be perfectly nice and/or capable, but any of that is overshadowed by their cockyness. I mean, it's not Harvard, or even close. I feel like grads from better schools seem far less cocky. This gives me a negative impression, YMMV.
THIS ^^
Sorry your kids can’t get in
Anonymous wrote:The uva snobbery that irritates me isn’t about ranking or admissions, it’s about the “grounds” and the Old South feel of the campus/Greek life.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't know if this addresses your question, but the UVA grads I know might be perfectly nice and/or capable, but any of that is overshadowed by their cockyness. I mean, it's not Harvard, or even close. I feel like grads from better schools seem far less cocky. This gives me a negative impression, YMMV.
No. That does not answer OP’s question. Not one bit.
Anonymous wrote:I live in northern Virginia and none of my kids have gotten into UVA. I would LOVE for them to attend nearly for the price tag. Currently paying out of state tuition for 3 kids at $80k+ each. I get the jealousy on her and readily admit I am crazy jealous
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's really strange to see expression of school spirit or pride as a negative. It's evidence of a good community. It's a good thing when alumni love their college. It's a good thing when the school's network is strong. It's not "cocky" to be proud of your college. It's a pretty normal thing...unless you went to a school that didn't have much school spirit.
UVA grads (and Tech grades, for that matter) are a lot like grads from where I went to school. Super proud, wear the school gear, get together for watch parties, hope our kids consider it when their time comes, etc.
Being cocky is no problem. It is a problem when UVA grads start to believe (irrationally) that UVA is clearly better than Michigan, better than UCLA etc. and comparing and attacking other schools and acting superior to graduates of other equal or better schools. I noticed that you decided not to touch upon that issue and instead pretended to be all dumb... and throw out "what is wrong with displaying school spirit?" BS.
Outside of DCUM, UVA grads simply don’t feel this way. There’s an irrational hatred of UVA on this board, and I’m convinced it’s because it annoys the shit out of people because it’s so highly ranked and so much cheaper than privates and DCUM can’t get their kids in.
Irritation with UVA goes way beyond this board and has been a thing for a long, long time. A lot of it’s their own doing. If you’ve only lived in NoVa for, say, 10-15 years or less and you’re coming on here saying “But MY kids aren’t cocky!” you don’t exactly get it.
Well said and I have been a resident of VA for 29 years and on DCUM for about 17 years.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't know if this addresses your question, but the UVA grads I know might be perfectly nice and/or capable, but any of that is overshadowed by their cockyness. I mean, it's not Harvard, or even close. I feel like grads from better schools seem far less cocky. This gives me a negative impression, YMMV.
No. That does not answer OP’s question. Not one bit.
DP: Well, OPs question was about why it gets a bad rap from some--this is why. Students may like it, but many outside the school find a reasonably sized number of their graduates cocky about their education in a way that feels unwarranted for what it is--a strong flagship university. I don't fully agree, but I would say I have seen a bit more of this cockiness as they transition from school into the "real world" from UVA grads than I do from grads we hire from equally strong or stronger schools. I think it's a bit more insular than a typical flagship because of its size and the limit to have 2/3 of students in-state--breeds a feeling of being a bigger fish than others might consider them. I honestly don't think that's too big of an issue though because most I encountered are quickly disabused of that once they enter the bigger pond.
Your small sample size is not indicative of the greater. I have my own small sample: my two at UVA now are the least cocky people you could ever imagine. They have great internships, both of which were extended from summer, and their bosses sing their praises all the time. So there you go, small sample size to counter yours.
Your standards for lack of cockiness don't hold up to scrutiny.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I see thread after thread of people here attacking UVA here. It's not normal to be this obsessed with a school you didn't even attend.
UVA supporters attack schools they didn't attend all the time.
Anonymous wrote:I see thread after thread of people here attacking UVA here. It's not normal to be this obsessed with a school you didn't even attend.