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Anonymous wrote:I remember when it was the bottom of the 6th, 2 outs, tied game, bases loaded.

I prayed for DS to get hit by the ball.

He struck out. The game went to 10 innnings.

If you're gonna pray, why not pray for a hit?

Simple strategy. Because with the bases loaded and two outs, a HBP has the batter take first, thereby automatically bringing home the runner on 3rd and winning the game.

If PP’s son had gotten a hit, there was a chance it would be caught or he’d be thrown out at 1st. Either forces you into extra innings when everyone just wants to go home.

Sigh. Striking the ball with the bat is NOT a hit.

A hit has a clear (and commonly understood) definition in baseball and softball. It is when the batter puts the ball into play and reaches base safely without an error by the defense.

If you are going to pray, pray for the exciting win where your DS actually earns the feeling of a walk-off win, instead of doing nothing and getting plunked

It's not the batters fault the kid threw a lousy pitch and hit him. It's part of the game.

Yes, but in that situation, the batter didn't win the game; the other team lost it.

Like PP said, if you're going to pray, at least pray for your kid to actually do something beside just take up space in the batters box

DP. Effectively crowding to plate to draw a HBP without getting called out or warned is a skill

No its not. It's 100% dependent on what kind of mood the umpire is in. And honestly, most just want to end the game and move on to the next so they would never call it. the only ones that do call that are the ones that are, for some reason, cranky about spending their weekends in the heat umpiring games

Then why do the same guys lead the mlb in hit pitches year in and year out? Even at the youth level, their are kids who are better at getting the call than other kids

Bc they crowd the plate, and hang their elbow in the strike zone, and wear the elbow guard that hangs an inch off the elbow when bent.

But those aren't skills; trying to get hit is not a skill. They are not deceiving the umpire. The umpire just doesnt care. And even at the MLB level, it all depends on the mood of the ump. But at the youth level, even more so.

Decieving the umpire is part of the game. Effective catchers can get balls called strikes

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Anonymous wrote:I remember when it was the bottom of the 6th, 2 outs, tied game, bases loaded.

I prayed for DS to get hit by the ball.

He struck out. The game went to 10 innnings.

If you're gonna pray, why not pray for a hit?

Simple strategy. Because with the bases loaded and two outs, a HBP has the batter take first, thereby automatically bringing home the runner on 3rd and winning the game.

If PP’s son had gotten a hit, there was a chance it would be caught or he’d be thrown out at 1st. Either forces you into extra innings when everyone just wants to go home.

Sigh. Striking the ball with the bat is NOT a hit.

A hit has a clear (and commonly understood) definition in baseball and softball. It is when the batter puts the ball into play and reaches base safely without an error by the defense.

If you are going to pray, pray for the exciting win where your DS actually earns the feeling of a walk-off win, instead of doing nothing and getting plunked

It's not the batters fault the kid threw a lousy pitch and hit him. It's part of the game.

Yes, but in that situation, the batter didn't win the game; the other team lost it.

Like PP said, if you're going to pray, at least pray for your kid to actually do something beside just take up space in the batters box

You do you. But when you're actually at these games there is a ton of pressure on the batter. They are kids. As a parent you know they feel the weight of the world on their shoulders and you want it to end as quick as possible with a good outcome. The batter is doing his job, the pitcher is not doing his if he's hitting the batters. If they can't get the last out, that's on them.

My daughter was in the exact same situation this weekend in 12U softball.

Her AB was ball. foul. foul. ball. strike swinging.

I would 100% rather have that AB from her, taking her hacks at strikes, than have her get hit by a pitch

So she struck out and lost the game?

No it went into extras and they won. But I also would have been fine if that was the last out of the game.

But my point is that I would rather an athlete with a mindset of trying to win a game than "fingers crossed that he throws a bad pitch and I get hit." You play to win the game, not hope for your opponent to lose

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Anonymous wrote:I remember when it was the bottom of the 6th, 2 outs, tied game, bases loaded.

I prayed for DS to get hit by the ball.

He struck out. The game went to 10 innnings.

If you're gonna pray, why not pray for a hit?

Simple strategy. Because with the bases loaded and two outs, a HBP has the batter take first, thereby automatically bringing home the runner on 3rd and winning the game.

If PP’s son had gotten a hit, there was a chance it would be caught or he’d be thrown out at 1st. Either forces you into extra innings when everyone just wants to go home.

Sigh. Striking the ball with the bat is NOT a hit.

A hit has a clear (and commonly understood) definition in baseball and softball. It is when the batter puts the ball into play and reaches base safely without an error by the defense.

If you are going to pray, pray for the exciting win where your DS actually earns the feeling of a walk-off win, instead of doing nothing and getting plunked

It's not the batters fault the kid threw a lousy pitch and hit him. It's part of the game.

Yes, but in that situation, the batter didn't win the game; the other team lost it.

Like PP said, if you're going to pray, at least pray for your kid to actually do something beside just take up space in the batters box

DP. Effectively crowding to plate to draw a HBP without getting called out or warned is a skill

No its not. It's 100% dependent on what kind of mood the umpire is in. And honestly, most just want to end the game and move on to the next so they would never call it. the only ones that do call that are the ones that are, for some reason, cranky about spending their weekends in the heat umpiring games

Then why do the same guys lead the mlb in hit pitches year in and year out? Even at the youth level, their are kids who are better at getting the call than other kids

Bc they crowd the plate, and hang their elbow in the strike zone, and wear the elbow guard that hangs an inch off the elbow when bent.

But those aren't skills; trying to get hit is not a skill. They are not deceiving the umpire. The umpire just doesnt care. And even at the MLB level, it all depends on the mood of the ump. But at the youth level, even more so.

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Anonymous wrote:I remember when it was the bottom of the 6th, 2 outs, tied game, bases loaded.

I prayed for DS to get hit by the ball.

He struck out. The game went to 10 innnings.

If you're gonna pray, why not pray for a hit?

Simple strategy. Because with the bases loaded and two outs, a HBP has the batter take first, thereby automatically bringing home the runner on 3rd and winning the game.

If PP’s son had gotten a hit, there was a chance it would be caught or he’d be thrown out at 1st. Either forces you into extra innings when everyone just wants to go home.

Sigh. Striking the ball with the bat is NOT a hit.

A hit has a clear (and commonly understood) definition in baseball and softball. It is when the batter puts the ball into play and reaches base safely without an error by the defense.

If you are going to pray, pray for the exciting win where your DS actually earns the feeling of a walk-off win, instead of doing nothing and getting plunked

It's not the batters fault the kid threw a lousy pitch and hit him. It's part of the game.

Yes, but in that situation, the batter didn't win the game; the other team lost it.

Like PP said, if you're going to pray, at least pray for your kid to actually do something beside just take up space in the batters box

DP. Effectively crowding to plate to draw a HBP without getting called out or warned is a skill

No its not. It's 100% dependent on what kind of mood the umpire is in. And honestly, most just want to end the game and move on to the next so they would never call it. the only ones that do call that are the ones that are, for some reason, cranky about spending their weekends in the heat umpiring games

Then why do the same guys lead the mlb in hit pitches year in and year out? Even at the youth level, their are kids who are better at getting the call than other kids

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Anonymous wrote:I remember when it was the bottom of the 6th, 2 outs, tied game, bases loaded.

I prayed for DS to get hit by the ball.

He struck out. The game went to 10 innnings.

If you're gonna pray, why not pray for a hit?

Simple strategy. Because with the bases loaded and two outs, a HBP has the batter take first, thereby automatically bringing home the runner on 3rd and winning the game.

If PP’s son had gotten a hit, there was a chance it would be caught or he’d be thrown out at 1st. Either forces you into extra innings when everyone just wants to go home.

Sigh. Striking the ball with the bat is NOT a hit.

A hit has a clear (and commonly understood) definition in baseball and softball. It is when the batter puts the ball into play and reaches base safely without an error by the defense.

If you are going to pray, pray for the exciting win where your DS actually earns the feeling of a walk-off win, instead of doing nothing and getting plunked

It's not the batters fault the kid threw a lousy pitch and hit him. It's part of the game.

Yes, but in that situation, the batter didn't win the game; the other team lost it.

Like PP said, if you're going to pray, at least pray for your kid to actually do something beside just take up space in the batters box

You do you. But when you're actually at these games there is a ton of pressure on the batter. They are kids. As a parent you know they feel the weight of the world on their shoulders and you want it to end as quick as possible with a good outcome. The batter is doing his job, the pitcher is not doing his if he's hitting the batters. If they can't get the last out, that's on them.

My daughter was in the exact same situation this weekend in 12U softball.

Her AB was ball. foul. foul. ball. strike swinging.

I would 100% rather have that AB from her, taking her hacks at strikes, than have her get hit by a pitch

So she struck out and lost the game?

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Anonymous wrote:I remember when it was the bottom of the 6th, 2 outs, tied game, bases loaded.

I prayed for DS to get hit by the ball.

He struck out. The game went to 10 innnings.

If you're gonna pray, why not pray for a hit?

Simple strategy. Because with the bases loaded and two outs, a HBP has the batter take first, thereby automatically bringing home the runner on 3rd and winning the game.

If PP’s son had gotten a hit, there was a chance it would be caught or he’d be thrown out at 1st. Either forces you into extra innings when everyone just wants to go home.

Sigh. Striking the ball with the bat is NOT a hit.

A hit has a clear (and commonly understood) definition in baseball and softball. It is when the batter puts the ball into play and reaches base safely without an error by the defense.

If you are going to pray, pray for the exciting win where your DS actually earns the feeling of a walk-off win, instead of doing nothing and getting plunked

It's not the batters fault the kid threw a lousy pitch and hit him. It's part of the game.

Yes, but in that situation, the batter didn't win the game; the other team lost it.

Like PP said, if you're going to pray, at least pray for your kid to actually do something beside just take up space in the batters box

DP. Effectively crowding to plate to draw a HBP without getting called out or warned is a skill

No its not. It's 100% dependent on what kind of mood the umpire is in. And honestly, most just want to end the game and move on to the next so they would never call it. the only ones that do call that are the ones that are, for some reason, cranky about spending their weekends in the heat umpiring games

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Anonymous wrote:I remember when it was the bottom of the 6th, 2 outs, tied game, bases loaded.

I prayed for DS to get hit by the ball.

He struck out. The game went to 10 innnings.

If you're gonna pray, why not pray for a hit?

Simple strategy. Because with the bases loaded and two outs, a HBP has the batter take first, thereby automatically bringing home the runner on 3rd and winning the game.

If PP’s son had gotten a hit, there was a chance it would be caught or he’d be thrown out at 1st. Either forces you into extra innings when everyone just wants to go home.

Sigh. Striking the ball with the bat is NOT a hit.

A hit has a clear (and commonly understood) definition in baseball and softball. It is when the batter puts the ball into play and reaches base safely without an error by the defense.

If you are going to pray, pray for the exciting win where your DS actually earns the feeling of a walk-off win, instead of doing nothing and getting plunked

It's not the batters fault the kid threw a lousy pitch and hit him. It's part of the game.

Yes, but in that situation, the batter didn't win the game; the other team lost it.

Like PP said, if you're going to pray, at least pray for your kid to actually do something beside just take up space in the batters box

You do you. But when you're actually at these games there is a ton of pressure on the batter. They are kids. As a parent you know they feel the weight of the world on their shoulders and you want it to end as quick as possible with a good outcome. The batter is doing his job, the pitcher is not doing his if he's hitting the batters. If they can't get the last out, that's on them.

My daughter was in the exact same situation this weekend in 12U softball.

Her AB was ball. foul. foul. ball. strike swinging.

I would 100% rather have that AB from her, taking her hacks at strikes, than have her get hit by a pitch

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Anonymous wrote:I remember when it was the bottom of the 6th, 2 outs, tied game, bases loaded.

I prayed for DS to get hit by the ball.

He struck out. The game went to 10 innnings.

If you're gonna pray, why not pray for a hit?

Simple strategy. Because with the bases loaded and two outs, a HBP has the batter take first, thereby automatically bringing home the runner on 3rd and winning the game.

If PP’s son had gotten a hit, there was a chance it would be caught or he’d be thrown out at 1st. Either forces you into extra innings when everyone just wants to go home.

Sigh. Striking the ball with the bat is NOT a hit.

A hit has a clear (and commonly understood) definition in baseball and softball. It is when the batter puts the ball into play and reaches base safely without an error by the defense.

If you are going to pray, pray for the exciting win where your DS actually earns the feeling of a walk-off win, instead of doing nothing and getting plunked

It's not the batters fault the kid threw a lousy pitch and hit him. It's part of the game.

Yes, but in that situation, the batter didn't win the game; the other team lost it.

Like PP said, if you're going to pray, at least pray for your kid to actually do something beside just take up space in the batters box

DP. Effectively crowding to plate to draw a HBP without getting called out or warned is a skill

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Anonymous wrote:I remember when it was the bottom of the 6th, 2 outs, tied game, bases loaded.

I prayed for DS to get hit by the ball.

He struck out. The game went to 10 innnings.

If you're gonna pray, why not pray for a hit?

Simple strategy. Because with the bases loaded and two outs, a HBP has the batter take first, thereby automatically bringing home the runner on 3rd and winning the game.

If PP’s son had gotten a hit, there was a chance it would be caught or he’d be thrown out at 1st. Either forces you into extra innings when everyone just wants to go home.

Sigh. Striking the ball with the bat is NOT a hit.

A hit has a clear (and commonly understood) definition in baseball and softball. It is when the batter puts the ball into play and reaches base safely without an error by the defense.

If you are going to pray, pray for the exciting win where your DS actually earns the feeling of a walk-off win, instead of doing nothing and getting plunked

It's not the batters fault the kid threw a lousy pitch and hit him. It's part of the game.

Yes, but in that situation, the batter didn't win the game; the other team lost it.

Like PP said, if you're going to pray, at least pray for your kid to actually do something beside just take up space in the batters box

You do you. But when you're actually at these games there is a ton of pressure on the batter. They are kids. As a parent you know they feel the weight of the world on their shoulders and you want it to end as quick as possible with a good outcome. The batter is doing his job, the pitcher is not doing his if he's hitting the batters. If they can't get the last out, that's on them.

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Anonymous wrote:I remember when it was the bottom of the 6th, 2 outs, tied game, bases loaded.

I prayed for DS to get hit by the ball.

He struck out. The game went to 10 innnings.

If you're gonna pray, why not pray for a hit?

Simple strategy. Because with the bases loaded and two outs, a HBP has the batter take first, thereby automatically bringing home the runner on 3rd and winning the game.

If PP’s son had gotten a hit, there was a chance it would be caught or he’d be thrown out at 1st. Either forces you into extra innings when everyone just wants to go home.

Sigh. Striking the ball with the bat is NOT a hit.

A hit has a clear (and commonly understood) definition in baseball and softball. It is when the batter puts the ball into play and reaches base safely without an error by the defense.

If you are going to pray, pray for the exciting win where your DS actually earns the feeling of a walk-off win, instead of doing nothing and getting plunked

It's not the batters fault the kid threw a lousy pitch and hit him. It's part of the game.

Yes, but in that situation, the batter didn't win the game; the other team lost it.

Like PP said, if you're going to pray, at least pray for your kid to actually do something beside just take up space in the batters box

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Anonymous wrote:I remember when it was the bottom of the 6th, 2 outs, tied game, bases loaded.

I prayed for DS to get hit by the ball.

He struck out. The game went to 10 innnings.

If you're gonna pray, why not pray for a hit?

Simple strategy. Because with the bases loaded and two outs, a HBP has the batter take first, thereby automatically bringing home the runner on 3rd and winning the game.

If PP’s son had gotten a hit, there was a chance it would be caught or he’d be thrown out at 1st. Either forces you into extra innings when everyone just wants to go home.

Sigh. Striking the ball with the bat is NOT a hit.

A hit has a clear (and commonly understood) definition in baseball and softball. It is when the batter puts the ball into play and reaches base safely without an error by the defense.

If you are going to pray, pray for the exciting win where your DS actually earns the feeling of a walk-off win, instead of doing nothing and getting plunked

It's not the batters fault the kid threw a lousy pitch and hit him. It's part of the game.

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Anonymous wrote:I remember when it was the bottom of the 6th, 2 outs, tied game, bases loaded.

I prayed for DS to get hit by the ball.

He struck out. The game went to 10 innnings.

If you're gonna pray, why not pray for a hit?

Simple strategy. Because with the bases loaded and two outs, a HBP has the batter take first, thereby automatically bringing home the runner on 3rd and winning the game.

If PP’s son had gotten a hit, there was a chance it would be caught or he’d be thrown out at 1st. Either forces you into extra innings when everyone just wants to go home.

A hit, by definition, results in a batter reaching at least first.

You might be thinking of “contact.” But PP didn’t say “make contact.” PP said wish for a “hit” which by definition is a more dramatic way to walk-off an opponent than a HBP.

A win is a win. But you're really just splitting hairs here.

A win is a win, and hit by pitch is a perfectly respectable win. What PP is pointing out is that you might as well pray that your kid has a good at bay that they are proud of, if you are going to pray? I think what you meant is you were just ready for the game to end.

By definition a “hit” ends with the batter on 1st, same result as a walk or hit by pitch. Sometimes you’ll hear a parent yell “good try, Larla! It was a good hit” when a kid hits the ball well to the outfield but the ball is caught and it’s an out. The kid will look at the parent with pity, because it was not a hit, it was an out. That matters.

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Anonymous wrote:I remember when it was the bottom of the 6th, 2 outs, tied game, bases loaded.

I prayed for DS to get hit by the ball.

He struck out. The game went to 10 innnings.

If you're gonna pray, why not pray for a hit?

Simple strategy. Because with the bases loaded and two outs, a HBP has the batter take first, thereby automatically bringing home the runner on 3rd and winning the game.

If PP’s son had gotten a hit, there was a chance it would be caught or he’d be thrown out at 1st. Either forces you into extra innings when everyone just wants to go home.

Sigh. Striking the ball with the bat is NOT a hit.

A hit has a clear (and commonly understood) definition in baseball and softball. It is when the batter puts the ball into play and reaches base safely without an error by the defense.

If you are going to pray, pray for the exciting win where your DS actually earns the feeling of a walk-off win, instead of doing nothing and getting plunked

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Anonymous wrote:I remember when it was the bottom of the 6th, 2 outs, tied game, bases loaded.

I prayed for DS to get hit by the ball.

He struck out. The game went to 10 innnings.

If you're gonna pray, why not pray for a hit?

Simple strategy. Because with the bases loaded and two outs, a HBP has the batter take first, thereby automatically bringing home the runner on 3rd and winning the game.

If PP’s son had gotten a hit, there was a chance it would be caught or he’d be thrown out at 1st. Either forces you into extra innings when everyone just wants to go home.

In baseball, getting a hit automatically means you have put the ball in play and safely reached base. If the ball is caught or you are thrown out at 1st, it is not considered a hit despite bat having made contact with the ball and putting the ball in play.

Therefore, getting a hit in this case automatically means the runner reached base safely and the kid on 3rd advanced to home, thereby winning the game in a walk-off.

Easier said than done which is why parents may be hoping for HBP or a walk in this scenario.

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Anonymous wrote:I remember when it was the bottom of the 6th, 2 outs, tied game, bases loaded.

I prayed for DS to get hit by the ball.

He struck out. The game went to 10 innnings.

If you're gonna pray, why not pray for a hit?

Simple strategy. Because with the bases loaded and two outs, a HBP has the batter take first, thereby automatically bringing home the runner on 3rd and winning the game.

If PP’s son had gotten a hit, there was a chance it would be caught or he’d be thrown out at 1st. Either forces you into extra innings when everyone just wants to go home.

In baseball, getting a hit automatically means you have put the ball in play and safely reached base. If the ball is caught or you are thrown out at 1st, it is not considered a hit despite bat having made contact with the ball and putting the ball in play.

Therefore, getting a hit in this case automatically means the runner reached base safely and the kid on 3rd advanced to home, thereby winning the game in a walk-off.