Anonymous
Post 09/27/2023 15:06     Subject: I only want my child to get 30 min max HW per day
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Homework is banned in my house, the school has more than enough time with them during the school day and they don't need to be cutting into the students personal time.


Lmaooooooooo good luck with that!



Yikes, hope PP's kids don't plan on attending a good college or working a demanding job.
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2023 15:05     Subject: I only want my child to get 30 min max HW per day
Anonymous wrote:Are you going to write to their professors in college? Tell their future employers they give too much work?

More than likely your student isn't using time in school efficiently. Try taking their phone away at drop off and see if the homework load lightens. Most of the time they have the opportunity to at least start during class time at lunch or studyhall.


Yes, they will. Many parents are doing it now. Among other reasons why professors get trained in FERPA each year.
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2023 14:59     Subject: I only want my child to get 30 min max HW per day
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m a high school teacher. Homework is educationally useless. Reading, studying and working on essays and projects is plenty.

Busywork is not education.


This, this, this, this, THIS!


But at the high school level this is what homework is!!


Maybe high schools should rethink their homework then.
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2023 14:47     Subject: I only want my child to get 30 min max HW per day
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m a high school teacher. Homework is educationally useless. Reading, studying and working on essays and projects is plenty.

Busywork is not education.


This, this, this, this, THIS!


But at the high school level this is what homework is!!
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2023 14:08     Subject: I only want my child to get 30 min max HW per day
Anonymous wrote:Fine. Have your kid only do 30 min. Good luck getting into college.


+1

Less competition for my kids. Woot woot!

If you’re ever wondering why public schools are crap now, folks, I present exhibit A.
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2023 13:06     Subject: Re:I only want my child to get 30 min max HW per day
Anonymous wrote:My kids mostly finished the bulk of their homework at school. They had other interests and worked on that at home. But, yes, they did work. They also got straight As, aced SATs, aced ECs, and took 12 APs. 8 APs by the end of 11th grade and from all 5 core subjects. 5s in all. So what? They are STEM magnet public school students. By 4th grade they had mastered study skills and time management.


🙄
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2023 13:04     Subject: I only want my child to get 30 min max HW per day
Anonymous wrote:Homework is banned in my house, the school has more than enough time with them during the school day and they don't need to be cutting into the students personal time.


Lmaooooooooo good luck with that!
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2023 12:58     Subject: I only want my child to get 30 min max HW per day
Anonymous wrote:Focusing on sports instead of homework is not a good long term bet.
Specifically for math, American students are falling way behind. Our students are struggling because THEY DON'T DO ENOUGH MATH HOMEWORK. Sorry, but the average learner doesn't learn math without practicing math problems over and over.
And the top 20-40 income earning jobs in America are all math based.
I have 4 kids and the only ones getting enough math homework are in the highest level math classes. Schools are letting average learners slide by without really learning algebra, geometry and pre-calc.

For most kids that 3 hours/day spent in sports ain't gonna pay the bills for the rest of their life. Hard academic skills will.

https://abcnews.go.com/Lifestyle/wireStory/college-students-struggling-basic-math-professors-blame-pandemic-102823782

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/nri/work/america-desperately-needs-people-who-are-good-at-math/articleshow/103980837.cms?from=mdr


I respectfully disagree. We've just flooded the market with kids who compute worse than the computers do and they are all competing for the same jobs. Market forces will drive those salaries down. The skills that will continue to be in demand will include executive functioning, interpersonal, emotional control, logical reasoning, and creativity. Solving equations, not so much. .....I'm a scientist and we use computers for much of our math. We also outsource code writing. I can only imagine other industries are doing exactly the same. It's cheaper to get really smart folks in India to do this type of work, so the jobs are going there.
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2023 12:52     Subject: Re:I only want my child to get 30 min max HW per day
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My kids mostly finished the bulk of their homework at school. They had other interests and worked on that at home. But, yes, they did work. They also got straight As, aced SATs, aced ECs, and took 12 APs. 8 APs by the end of 11th grade and from all 5 core subjects. 5s in all. So what? They are STEM magnet public school students. By 4th grade they had mastered study skills and time management.


That's awesome. Any tips you/they learned on how to master study skills? Sometimes I feel my kids are spinning their wheels trying to do homework, so it takes longer than it needs to. (Especially getting distracted by technology)


DP

Number 1 tip - when your kid in little give them help to organize and space to fail and get this wrong. They will learn. Too much hand holding sets them up for failure. Also, help them to take pride in good work, not average work. This motivates them to do well without you. Stress effort, not achievement.

Some parents on the college board here are still trying to hand hold their young adults. Basically they've failed as parents to create a self-sufficient adult. Now they have a giant man-child (or woman-child) that can't take care of themselves, let alone any family they should want
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2023 12:48     Subject: I only want my child to get 30 min max HW per day
Anonymous wrote:Yeah, it's about your kid.
Figure out how to teach executive functioning skills. Stop blaming the school.


+1
My MS kid brings home 10 min and sometimes projects on the weekends. She's straight As at a top private. Some kids in her grade are bringing home 3 hours and making Bs and Cs. It's about making good use of time and not skimping on fundamental concepts. If you constantly have to relearn stuff you should know, then hw is tough.
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2023 10:41     Subject: Re:I only want my child to get 30 min max HW per day
Anonymous wrote:My kids mostly finished the bulk of their homework at school. They had other interests and worked on that at home. But, yes, they did work. They also got straight As, aced SATs, aced ECs, and took 12 APs. 8 APs by the end of 11th grade and from all 5 core subjects. 5s in all. So what? They are STEM magnet public school students. By 4th grade they had mastered study skills and time management.


That's awesome. Any tips you/they learned on how to master study skills? Sometimes I feel my kids are spinning their wheels trying to do homework, so it takes longer than it needs to. (Especially getting distracted by technology)
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2023 10:26     Subject: Re:I only want my child to get 30 min max HW per day
My kids mostly finished the bulk of their homework at school. They had other interests and worked on that at home. But, yes, they did work. They also got straight As, aced SATs, aced ECs, and took 12 APs. 8 APs by the end of 11th grade and from all 5 core subjects. 5s in all. So what? They are STEM magnet public school students. By 4th grade they had mastered study skills and time management.
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2023 10:19     Subject: I only want my child to get 30 min max HW per day
Focusing on sports instead of homework is not a good long term bet.
Specifically for math, American students are falling way behind. Our students are struggling because THEY DON'T DO ENOUGH MATH HOMEWORK. Sorry, but the average learner doesn't learn math without practicing math problems over and over.
And the top 20-40 income earning jobs in America are all math based.
I have 4 kids and the only ones getting enough math homework are in the highest level math classes. Schools are letting average learners slide by without really learning algebra, geometry and pre-calc.

For most kids that 3 hours/day spent in sports ain't gonna pay the bills for the rest of their life. Hard academic skills will.

https://abcnews.go.com/Lifestyle/wireStory/college-students-struggling-basic-math-professors-blame-pandemic-102823782

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/nri/work/america-desperately-needs-people-who-are-good-at-math/articleshow/103980837.cms?from=mdr
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2023 10:11     Subject: I only want my child to get 30 min max HW per day
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m a high school teacher. Homework is educationally useless. Reading, studying and working on essays and projects is plenty.

Busywork is not education.


This, this, this, this, THIS!


I don’t know what high school gives “busy work” like elementary. The homework given, that I see, is meaningful and directly connected to class learning. It deepens the understanding. I see my kid daily at the dining table, making connections as she does HW and excited to understand challenging mathematical or biological relationships. If your kid is in H or AP classes and simple learning rote material and has no homework they are being cheated. And if you’re ok with that, good for you. But some people like to learn. And there are different pathways for these people, pick the appropriate one.
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2023 09:28     Subject: I only want my child to get 30 min max HW per day
Anonymous wrote:I’m a high school teacher. Homework is educationally useless. Reading, studying and working on essays and projects is plenty.

Busywork is not education.


This, this, this, this, THIS!