Anonymous
Post 09/20/2023 18:50     Subject: Re:Are any other high school teachers experiencing worse freshman this year?
Anonymous wrote:I really don’t get being all hurt by teens cursing.


It's not that. It's that I do this job because I AM a patient and kind person who truly wants to help people. And day in and day out I get cursed out for telling kids not to skateboard down a hallway, kick a soccer ball down a crowded hall, scream and curse outside of my classroom door while I'm teaching.... I can't do my job because of them.

And the behaviors keep escalating. When I started kids would say "yes miss" and then continue the poor behavior, then they would ignore, now they curse...and I have friends who have gotten assaulted. I'm not bothered by some cursing. I'm worried I'm going to get punched, or worse.

It's exhausting.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2023 12:37     Subject: Are any other high school teachers experiencing worse freshman this year?
Anonymous wrote:Didn't a freshman from RM physically and verbally assault a teacher last week?

Now THAT school is out of control. My kid was in 8th at JW and we started applying for privates by Oct of last year, because the kids were horrific and there was no control. The principal was rarely there and no SRO. No consequences. Once we started hearing about drug bathrooms, gangs and guns on RM campus, we knew we made the right decision to leave.

I think it is pockets are areas of schools. Kids with single parents trying to survive and kids coddled by entitled parents. It's awful. The parents that want true learning and structure leave public schools.


How do you know that freshman did it? Not that it is OK regardless of the grade student was in.
FWIW, I have freshman at RM right now and DC actually likes the school.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2023 11:56     Subject: Are any other high school teachers experiencing worse freshman this year?
The kids have no c I nsequences and mcps pun8shes and fires teachers for having no control. Oh yeah; and admin gets promoted when bullying staff. It's a recipe for a horrible career. I don't recommend teaching as a career.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2023 11:47     Subject: Re:Are any other high school teachers experiencing worse freshman this year?
Anonymous wrote:
I know kids whose parents were really working hard to discipline their kids at home but at that age it's really hard and even parents can't do anything.


Seriously? Parents "can't do anything"? The #1 consequence in my house is loss of phone/electronics. Works like a charm. Take away phone, spending money, time with friends, etc. unless and until they demonstrate good behavior.


We aren't allowed to discipline our children anymore. There are some kids who just do not give a dam about anything. The only thing they would have responded to was direct physical consequences. These are kids with mental illness. Their parents are told a whole bunch of non effective bs but in the end, those kids need be removed from school because no one is going to change their behavior
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2023 11:03     Subject: Are any other high school teachers experiencing worse freshman this year?
Anonymous wrote:Didn't a freshman from RM physically and verbally assault a teacher last week?

Now THAT school is out of control. My kid was in 8th at JW and we started applying for privates by Oct of last year, because the kids were horrific and there was no control. The principal was rarely there and no SRO. No consequences. Once we started hearing about drug bathrooms, gangs and guns on RM campus, we knew we made the right decision to leave.

I think it is pockets are areas of schools. Kids with single parents trying to survive and kids coddled by entitled parents. It's awful. The parents that want true learning and structure leave public schools.


That’s rich. Not all of us have that luxury.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2023 10:50     Subject: Are any other high school teachers experiencing worse freshman this year?
Didn't a freshman from RM physically and verbally assault a teacher last week?

Now THAT school is out of control. My kid was in 8th at JW and we started applying for privates by Oct of last year, because the kids were horrific and there was no control. The principal was rarely there and no SRO. No consequences. Once we started hearing about drug bathrooms, gangs and guns on RM campus, we knew we made the right decision to leave.

I think it is pockets are areas of schools. Kids with single parents trying to survive and kids coddled by entitled parents. It's awful. The parents that want true learning and structure leave public schools.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2023 09:43     Subject: Re:Are any other high school teachers experiencing worse freshman this year?
Anonymous wrote:
I know kids whose parents were really working hard to discipline their kids at home but at that age it's really hard and even parents can't do anything.


Seriously? Parents "can't do anything"? The #1 consequence in my house is loss of phone/electronics. Works like a charm. Take away phone, spending money, time with friends, etc. unless and until they demonstrate good behavior.


This and more. Grounded to room, no activities, no electronics, take away phone, etc. I would be furious if I got a call or email from the school about bad behavior. My kids would far rather get in trouble at school than at home and if they are in trouble at school, they get in trouble at home.

Parents who refuse or claim they can't are the problem.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2023 08:47     Subject: Are any other high school teachers experiencing worse freshman this year?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a teacher, what are you doing to address it?


Everything in our power. The problem is the kids don’t care about consequences. In school suspension? So what. A phone call home? They laugh and say go ahead. There are no repercussions for them coming from parents and parents seem to think it’s on us for every single thing their kids does. It is absolutely as much of the parents fault these days as it is the kids. Our building already had two teachers quit.


Many of do care and there would be serious consequences at home, far worse than at school.


The ones that do care clearly aren’t the ones causing the problems.


This is not as big of a deal as throwing a chair, but often the biggest problem is incessant chatter from the kids. They won't stop talking. Then a teacher calls home and says the kid is talking a lot and the parents, even good parents, think a) my child couldn't be the problem child and b) why is this teacher making such a big deal out of being chatty? Kids should be allowed to talk sometimes! So, it is sort of the good parents too.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2023 07:19     Subject: Are any other high school teachers experiencing worse freshman this year?
I have 3 9th grade classes. We had MAP-R testing. I had to suspend the test in one class yesterday. My admins said I should have called security. We will see how they like the seating chart today.
Anonymous
Post 09/19/2023 19:28     Subject: Re:Are any other high school teachers experiencing worse freshman this year?
I know kids whose parents were really working hard to discipline their kids at home but at that age it's really hard and even parents can't do anything.


Seriously? Parents "can't do anything"? The #1 consequence in my house is loss of phone/electronics. Works like a charm. Take away phone, spending money, time with friends, etc. unless and until they demonstrate good behavior.
Anonymous
Post 09/19/2023 18:51     Subject: Are any other high school teachers experiencing worse freshman this year?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Now it's the covid kids. Before that it was tik tok challenges before that it was no SROs.

The actual problem is that mcps has zero consequences for poor behavior.


Well true but it’s the parents.

When the parents COMPLAIN about the consequences, it’s an issue.

I grew up scared of what my parents were going to do if a teacher called. Now the kids just whine to their parents to fix it AND THEY DO

I think it’s the fault of leadership, which in this case is MCPS. MCPS doesn’t seem to have teachers’ backs—they’re more concerned about equity and not punishing students if they happen to be of a protected race. And so there are no consequences and students know this.

The army, for example, gets a hodgepodge group of people from many backgrounds. They make sure everyone follows the leader and there is order.
Anonymous
Post 09/19/2023 18:05     Subject: Are any other high school teachers experiencing worse freshman this year?
I was with a friend last weekend who teaches in a Chicago suburb. She teaches honors science so she typically doesn't have a lot of discipline issues. Several of her students have already been suspended this year. She said it's the worst group of freshman she can remember in her 15 years of teaching.
Anonymous
Post 09/19/2023 17:59     Subject: Are any other high school teachers experiencing worse freshman this year?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's hard to reconcile the no consequence with the threads complaining about detentions and suspension, but please continue.


What threads about detentions and suspensions? Please link to one. I don’t see any.

I also have no idea what that PP is talking about. The only posts I ever see mostly are people bewildered why students face almost no consequences due to equity. I saw one post about a student who was severely punished for saying the “r” word in jest.
Anonymous
Post 09/19/2023 17:54     Subject: Are any other high school teachers experiencing worse freshman this year?
Anonymous wrote:It's hard to reconcile the no consequence with the threads complaining about detentions and suspension, but please continue.


What threads about detentions and suspensions? Please link to one. I don’t see any.
Anonymous
Post 09/19/2023 16:32     Subject: Are any other high school teachers experiencing worse freshman this year?
It's hard to reconcile the no consequence with the threads complaining about detentions and suspension, but please continue.