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Anonymous wrote:All the ivys except Dartmouth moved up. Surprised by a few like UNC and UMich and poor WashU. Disappointed in Emory thought they would move up to 20.

UMich should be at the same ranking level as UCLA and Berkeley. It's more well rounded academically and geographically.

I agree academically, but Michigan also has about 50% of its undergrads paying full freight to attend. The vast majority of all the UC schools are instate

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Anonymous wrote:Vandy falling 5 spots, and WashU falling 10. That's crazy.

they're rich kid schools. almost all of the rich kid schools fell considerably (nyu, usc, dartmouth, washington and lee, etc)

Lehigh climbed so apparently some rich kid schools did well.

seems about right, caltech is a bit lower than i'd have put it and USC is still a bit too high.

Anonymous wrote:If this is 2024 ranking, then it was a lot of noise about nothing. The majority of top colleges did not change much: up or down a few notches. Big whoopee.

Read beyond the top 15, it’s basically all public universities.

Anonymous wrote:UVA moves up from 25 to 24!

Or down to 27.

It all depends on your POV.

Anonymous wrote:If this is 2024 ranking, then it was a lot of noise about nothing. The majority of top colleges did not change much: up or down a few notches. Big whoopee.

NYU went from 25 to 35. Ouch.

He new rankings are a joke. Every state flagship is now a top 50. UC Davis at 28.

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Anonymous wrote:LAC rankings out as well. Service academies all rose, general moderate shuffling among the others but maybe no giant leaps or drops.

Actually I just noticed one – Soka dropped fairly far. That shows that US News is maybe valuing endowments less this time around.

Also, right now they have Washington & Lee at both 11 and 21!

Haverford is currently at both #18 and #21.

Because these rankings weren't set to come out until tomorrow, I wouldn't imagine any number here is guaranteed to be the same once the bleary-eyed proofreaders go through the list again (even though it's partially updated).

It is done this way every year. The difference above isn't about proofreading, it's the update process.

Anonymous wrote:Vandy falling 5 spots, and WashU falling 10. That's crazy.

Not too surprised by WashU. The new methodology very much favors publics. I think most of them moved up considerably, so Berkeley and UCLA are now ranked above Vanderbilt. Michigan is just behind it now. Looking further down the list, it seems like a bloodbath for privates.

Anonymous wrote:Why did UChicago drop?

terrible performance on social mobility. #293 overall. everything else was among the best.

Four of the UCs T30 and six T35. That’s impressive.

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Anonymous wrote:LAC rankings out as well. Service academies all rose, general moderate shuffling among the others but maybe no giant leaps or drops.

Actually I just noticed one – Soka dropped fairly far. That shows that US News is maybe valuing endowments less this time around.

Also, right now they have Washington & Lee at both 11 and 21!

Haverford is currently at both #18 and #21.

Because these rankings weren't set to come out until tomorrow, I wouldn't imagine any number here is guaranteed to be the same once the bleary-eyed proofreaders go through the list again (even though it's partially updated).

Rutgers rose 15 slots to 40 from 55!

Why did UChicago drop?

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Anonymous wrote:"These rankings don't matter" crowd sounds similar to the Test optional crowd that secretly pays $500/hr to test prep their kids to move from 1200 to 1250 .

People, the only rankings that matter is US News and this is it for 2024!

With the biggest beneficiaries being the UCs, which are test blind.

I didn't say the two are related.

It’s not that. It’s because USNWR values Pell grant recipients, which California has a lot of. It’s an unfair qualifier though because schools have no idea who the Pell grant recipients might be when they accept them. So the UC schools will always rise, and always will until USNWR changes it’s method to something that the schools can actually be in charge of. California’s Pell grant population will continue to rise so the UC schools will continue so