Anonymous
Post 09/16/2023 22:41     Subject: Whitman vs private?
Haha, mean unlike grades k-12, where lower and middle private schools offer more robust class schedules than big blocks of reading and math and testing like in public elementary schools.
Anonymous
Post 09/16/2023 22:41     Subject: Whitman vs private?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't live in the Whitman zone, but I did consider moving to the Whitman zone for the schools when I moved back to the DMV a few years ago. For me, the reason I chose not to move in that zone is largely similar to why I would opt for private school over Whitman. The student population at Whitman is only 4% Black and in the DMV the local Black population is significantly higher than that as is the national average). Even isolating on Montgomery County, MD...almost 21 percent of the county population is Black but Whitman only has 4 percent. I wanted my children to go to a more diverse school but also still cared about the academic performance of the school. The school we chose is about 15% Black and another 15% multiracial, and this was important for our family. If diversity doesn't matter, I think your child would probably get a better education than many of the local schools. And if you paid the top dollar to live in that neighborhood, maybe its worth going to the school that likely caused the price of the house to be much higher.


Whitman is 39.6% non-white. Yes, there's a higher % of POC county-wide, but 39.6% POC isn't a tiny number.

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/04427.pdf


The data you provide shows that Whitman is less than 5% black and over 15% Asian. While the 39.6% POC sounds ok it is highly skewed toward Asian students, my nearby private school is much more racially diverse.

Name the school
Anonymous
Post 09/16/2023 22:40     Subject: Whitman vs private?
High schools have to offer much if the same things, unlike grades 9-12. And most have older teachers, not in their 20s or out of maternity leave annually.

So privates are only different around the fringes (assembly topics, mission classes), smaller grade size, and often smaller class sizes. Homework, projects and group work are largely the same.
Places like Whitman are quite academic so if you’re good (ie club trained), you can make a sports team; this isn’t Texas or California where you have to choose to be a jock or a scholar.
Anonymous
Post 09/16/2023 20:26     Subject: Whitman vs private?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Asian Americans aren't underrepresented in the American higher education system, so trying to claim Whitman is diverse when the school is dominated by White and Asian schools is smoke and clouds. The school has significantly lower numbers of any other race as compared to several area privates that can be more intentional about ensuring both economic and racial diversity.


This seems racist to me. Asians are a minority, and Asians are POC. Why should they not count as adding diversity?


It isn't a matter of them not adding to diversity, and they for sure aren't synonymous with white; however, having a large population of Asian students and White students is still not a community I would give a gold star to for being diverse. I also don't think an all Black school isn't diverse. The challenge many public schools face is that housing is still very segregated. And the Whitman district, while there are some apartments and such, is still one of the wealthier districts in the nation. That is, unfortunately, not something the school itself has the power to change. A diverse school would have representation at least at or close to what you'd find of that race in the general population. With five percent of the school being Black, I'd guarantee there are White and Asian students who don't have anyone in their class who is not White or Asian. It's great that they can learn a lot from each other, but I believe they are still missing out because that environment isn't all that diverse.

Anonymous
Post 09/16/2023 19:59     Subject: Whitman vs private?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Asian Americans aren't underrepresented in the American higher education system, so trying to claim Whitman is diverse when the school is dominated by White and Asian schools is smoke and clouds. The school has significantly lower numbers of any other race as compared to several area privates that can be more intentional about ensuring both economic and racial diversity.


This seems racist to me. Asians are a minority, and Asians are POC. Why should they not count as adding diversity?

We are not white enough nor are we minority enough. We're considered "minority" when it suits people but not when it doesn't.
Anonymous
Post 09/16/2023 19:40     Subject: Whitman vs private?
Anonymous wrote:Asian Americans aren't underrepresented in the American higher education system, so trying to claim Whitman is diverse when the school is dominated by White and Asian schools is smoke and clouds. The school has significantly lower numbers of any other race as compared to several area privates that can be more intentional about ensuring both economic and racial diversity.


This seems racist to me. Asians are a minority, and Asians are POC. Why should they not count as adding diversity?
Anonymous
Post 09/16/2023 19:38     Subject: Whitman vs private?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't live in the Whitman zone, but I did consider moving to the Whitman zone for the schools when I moved back to the DMV a few years ago. For me, the reason I chose not to move in that zone is largely similar to why I would opt for private school over Whitman. The student population at Whitman is only 4% Black and in the DMV the local Black population is significantly higher than that as is the national average). Even isolating on Montgomery County, MD...almost 21 percent of the county population is Black but Whitman only has 4 percent. I wanted my children to go to a more diverse school but also still cared about the academic performance of the school. The school we chose is about 15% Black and another 15% multiracial, and this was important for our family. If diversity doesn't matter, I think your child would probably get a better education than many of the local schools. And if you paid the top dollar to live in that neighborhood, maybe its worth going to the school that likely caused the price of the house to be much higher.


Whitman is 39.6% non-white. Yes, there's a higher % of POC county-wide, but 39.6% POC isn't a tiny number.

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/04427.pdf


The data you provide shows that Whitman is less than 5% black and over 15% Asian. While the 39.6% POC sounds ok it is highly skewed toward Asian students, my nearby private school is much more racially diverse.


Asians add to diversity just as much as any other non-white race. The fact remains Whitman is 39.6% POC. That's a good amount of diversity. Not amazing, but still pretty good.
Anonymous
Post 09/16/2023 19:37     Subject: Whitman vs private?
Asian Americans aren't underrepresented in the American higher education system, so trying to claim Whitman is diverse when the school is dominated by White and Asian schools is smoke and clouds. The school has significantly lower numbers of any other race as compared to several area privates that can be more intentional about ensuring both economic and racial diversity.
Anonymous
Post 09/16/2023 19:16     Subject: Whitman vs private?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't live in the Whitman zone, but I did consider moving to the Whitman zone for the schools when I moved back to the DMV a few years ago. For me, the reason I chose not to move in that zone is largely similar to why I would opt for private school over Whitman. The student population at Whitman is only 4% Black and in the DMV the local Black population is significantly higher than that as is the national average). Even isolating on Montgomery County, MD...almost 21 percent of the county population is Black but Whitman only has 4 percent. I wanted my children to go to a more diverse school but also still cared about the academic performance of the school. The school we chose is about 15% Black and another 15% multiracial, and this was important for our family. If diversity doesn't matter, I think your child would probably get a better education than many of the local schools. And if you paid the top dollar to live in that neighborhood, maybe its worth going to the school that likely caused the price of the house to be much higher.


Whitman is 39.6% non-white. Yes, there's a higher % of POC county-wide, but 39.6% POC isn't a tiny number.

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/04427.pdf


The data you provide shows that Whitman is less than 5% black and over 15% Asian. While the 39.6% POC sounds ok it is highly skewed toward Asian students, my nearby private school is much more racially diverse.


Same. Our kids attended a highly rated public that was mostly white and Asian. They now attend a very well regarded private school that is far more diverse!
Anonymous
Post 09/16/2023 19:16     Subject: Re:Whitman vs private?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are many, many small, old, inexpensive properties in addition to townhomes and apartments.

And these "inexpensive properties" constitute what percentage of homes in the Whitman district?


Large swatches of the homes in neighborhoods close to Whitman are pretty modest. Cabin John, the area bounded by MacArthur Blvd - Sangamore Rd - River Rd, the neighborhood between Carderock Elementary and Seven Locks Rd. These appear to be very middle-class areas.

Potomac, north of the Beltway, with much grander homes is a small percentage of the Whitman area.

while those homes are "modest", the neighborhood there is not middle class. The average "middle class" home around that area goes for over $1mil. I suppose your definition of "middle class" must be from the view of the 1%.
Anonymous
Post 09/16/2023 19:06     Subject: Whitman vs private?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't live in the Whitman zone, but I did consider moving to the Whitman zone for the schools when I moved back to the DMV a few years ago. For me, the reason I chose not to move in that zone is largely similar to why I would opt for private school over Whitman. The student population at Whitman is only 4% Black and in the DMV the local Black population is significantly higher than that as is the national average). Even isolating on Montgomery County, MD...almost 21 percent of the county population is Black but Whitman only has 4 percent. I wanted my children to go to a more diverse school but also still cared about the academic performance of the school. The school we chose is about 15% Black and another 15% multiracial, and this was important for our family. If diversity doesn't matter, I think your child would probably get a better education than many of the local schools. And if you paid the top dollar to live in that neighborhood, maybe its worth going to the school that likely caused the price of the house to be much higher.


Whitman is 39.6% non-white. Yes, there's a higher % of POC county-wide, but 39.6% POC isn't a tiny number.

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/04427.pdf


The data you provide shows that Whitman is less than 5% black and over 15% Asian. While the 39.6% POC sounds ok it is highly skewed toward Asian students, my nearby private school is much more racially diverse.
Anonymous
Post 09/16/2023 18:59     Subject: Whitman vs private?
Anonymous wrote:I don't live in the Whitman zone, but I did consider moving to the Whitman zone for the schools when I moved back to the DMV a few years ago. For me, the reason I chose not to move in that zone is largely similar to why I would opt for private school over Whitman. The student population at Whitman is only 4% Black and in the DMV the local Black population is significantly higher than that as is the national average). Even isolating on Montgomery County, MD...almost 21 percent of the county population is Black but Whitman only has 4 percent. I wanted my children to go to a more diverse school but also still cared about the academic performance of the school. The school we chose is about 15% Black and another 15% multiracial, and this was important for our family. If diversity doesn't matter, I think your child would probably get a better education than many of the local schools. And if you paid the top dollar to live in that neighborhood, maybe its worth going to the school that likely caused the price of the house to be much higher.


Whitman is 39.6% non-white. Yes, there's a higher % of POC county-wide, but 39.6% POC isn't a tiny number.

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/04427.pdf
Anonymous
Post 09/16/2023 18:56     Subject: Re:Whitman vs private?
Anonymous wrote:If you look at the Edgemoor neigborhood, Burning Tree area...it's 80% private school.


Edgemoor is Bethesda ES (it borders it after all) generally feeding into BCC.

The neighborhoods closer to Whitman from Edgemoor are Bradley Hills feeding to Whitman.
Anonymous
Post 09/16/2023 16:14     Subject: Whitman vs private?
W2 Income is for the working class.

Passive income and interest income is how to pay the bills; living off the interest on your interest.
Anonymous
Post 09/16/2023 09:48     Subject: Re:Whitman vs private?
Anonymous wrote:Even if you are making 400K a year, it's not easy to come up with 110K to send two girls to Holton or another private school. From what I see many of the private school parents have household incomes between 1 and 3 million a year. Those numbers ar very rare among Whitman parents.


21% of Sidwell receives average FA of around $34k. They’re probably another 25% that have HHI of maybe $200-$400k.

I actually think the median income of Whitman may be higher though Sidwell will crush on the average.