Anonymous
09/10/2023 06:50
Subject: New Mexico Governor's unConstitutional power grab
Anonymous wrote:Republicans: What is your proposal to end gun violence in America, and to get all of the illegal guns off of the streets and out of the hands of criminals?
If you say "more guns" then that's what's already been done for decades, and it hasn't worked.
How about an ACTUAL proposal?
And if you don't have an actual proposal, then maybe you should STFU and sit down.
So let's hear it.... give me a serious proposal, or STFU and sit down.
Let’s start with not allowing cartels with guns carte blanche eh?
Anonymous
09/10/2023 06:49
Subject: New Mexico Governor's unConstitutional power grab
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Republicans: What is your proposal to end gun violence in America, and to get all of the illegal guns off of the streets and out of the hands of criminals?
If you say "more guns" then that's what's already been done for decades, and it hasn't worked.
How about an ACTUAL proposal?
And if you don't have an actual proposal, then maybe you should STFU and sit down.
So let's hear it.... give me a serious proposal, or STFU and sit down.
Still crickets. You Republicans are a shameful disgrace and the senseless deaths of countless thousands of Americans is on your heads. All you have done is make the problem worse.
How about we lock up criminals. Actually punish those who use guns in the commission of a crime. Or, assault someone without a gun.
It is not law abiding citizens who carry guns that are the problem here. But, the governor is treating them as though they are.
And, as for you who are claiming that the sheriff and law enforcement is to blame because they "aren't doing their job."
I'll leave you with this..... When seconds matter, the police are only minutes away.
Anonymous
09/10/2023 06:48
Subject: New Mexico Governor's unConstitutional power grab
jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:Bernalillo County Sheriff will not enforce the Governor's illicit mandate. Good. GOOD.
https://twitter.com/BCSONM/status/1700630632408478043?t=WLFqjTqcBANDu8kgn51EvA&s=19
The Sheriff is scared. He is afraid that the gun nuts will start shooting his officers if they try to take their guns away. He's probably right.
Albuquerque has been known as the carjack capital of the US. He could use the help, actually
Anonymous
09/10/2023 06:46
Subject: Re:New Mexico Governor's unConstitutional power grab
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:New Mexico Constitution
Article II - Bill of Rights
§ 6 Right to bear arms.
Universal Citation: NM Const art II § 6
No law shall abridge the right of the citizen to keep and bear arms for security and defense, for lawful hunting and recreational use and for other lawful purposes, but nothing herein shall be held to permit the carrying of concealed weapons. No municipality or county shall regulate, in any way, an incident of the right to keep and bear arms. (As amended November 2, 1971 and November 2, 1986.)
Except the problem is that the guns she is concerned about are being used for crime, which is not covered under security, defense, lawful hunting and recreational purposes et cetera.
And, you think that the criminals are just going to forget about carrying around their firearms because of her order?
If criminals are going to carry guns then they are going to carry guns - and that will make the criminals a hell of a lot easier to spot. Except now we have idiots like the Bernalillo Sheriff who wants criminals to be allowed to carry guns.
Because criminals wear their guns on their hips.
Please tell me you are really not this dumb?
Anonymous
09/10/2023 06:45
Subject: Re:New Mexico Governor's unConstitutional power grab
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:New Mexico Constitution
Article II - Bill of Rights
§ 6 Right to bear arms.
Universal Citation: NM Const art II § 6
No law shall abridge the right of the citizen to keep and bear arms for security and defense, for lawful hunting and recreational use and for other lawful purposes, but nothing herein shall be held to permit the carrying of concealed weapons. No municipality or county shall regulate, in any way, an incident of the right to keep and bear arms. (As amended November 2, 1971 and November 2, 1986.)
Security - are you police? If not then what is your legitimate role in carrying guns in public?
Defense - are you military? If not then what is your legitimate role in carrying guns in public?
Want a gun to defend your home, fine, but outside of that, it is not your role.
And if you are carrying a gun in a populated area then you are clearly not legally hunting or using it for recreation.
Well criminals won’t follow the law, so why should I be a sitting duck for them to take advantage of?
Anonymous
09/10/2023 06:45
Subject: Re:New Mexico Governor's unConstitutional power grab
Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:The US Constitution does not provide a right to open carry weapons. So, I have no idea what Hogg and Lieu think they are talking about. It will be up to New Mexico's Supreme Court to determine whether this move is allowed under the state's constitution or not.
Did she say open carry, concealed carry, or not distinguish?
She abolished both for 30 days.
Anonymous
09/10/2023 06:44
Subject: New Mexico Governor's unConstitutional power grab
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Time to remove her from power: 18 USC 242
Join the military and you will have that right, as the Founders intended.
But the military doesn’t always have that right either. Fort Hood shooting ring a bell?
Anonymous
09/10/2023 06:43
Subject: New Mexico Governor's unConstitutional power grab
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Bernalillo County Sheriff will not enforce the Governor's illicit mandate. Good. GOOD.
https://twitter.com/BCSONM/status/1700630632408478043?t=WLFqjTqcBANDu8kgn51EvA&s=19
Then the next person to get shot in Bernalillo County will be the direct fault of the Sheriff.
No. It will be the fault of the shooter or the recipient. But not the Sheriff.
The shooting wouldn't have happened if the gun curfew were enforced, so YES the Sherriff is responsible.
Because criminals always follow the law. Good LORD
Anonymous
09/10/2023 06:41
Subject: Re:New Mexico Governor's unConstitutional power grab
jsteele wrote:The US Constitution does not provide a right to open carry weapons. So, I have no idea what Hogg and Lieu think they are talking about. It will be up to New Mexico's Supreme Court to determine whether this move is allowed under the state's constitution or not.
Did she say open carry, concealed carry, or not distinguish?
Anonymous
09/09/2023 22:48
Subject: New Mexico Governor's unConstitutional power grab
Anonymous wrote:Republicans: What is your proposal to end gun violence in America, and to get all of the illegal guns off of the streets and out of the hands of criminals?
If you say "more guns" then that's what's already been done for decades, and it hasn't worked.
How about an ACTUAL proposal?
And if you don't have an actual proposal, then maybe you should STFU and sit down.
So let's hear it.... give me a serious proposal, or STFU and sit down.
Still crickets. You Republicans are a shameful disgrace and the senseless deaths of countless thousands of Americans is on your heads. All you have done is make the problem worse.
Anonymous
09/09/2023 22:38
Subject: New Mexico Governor's unConstitutional power grab
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Republicans: What is your proposal to end gun violence in America, and to get all of the illegal guns off of the streets and out of the hands of criminals?
If you say "more guns" then that's what's already been done for decades, and it hasn't worked.
How about an ACTUAL proposal?
And if you don't have an actual proposal, then maybe you should STFU and sit down.
So let's hear it.... give me a serious proposal, or STFU and sit down.
Still crickets..
Lock up all democrats?
What a stupid take.
Why would you say something so idiotic? Because you think democrats are the ones committing gun violence? The ones committing gun violence are felons, and felons don't vote. Democrats are the ones trying to stop it - unlike you republican morons who just keep throwing even more guns into the mix for criminals to get their hands on.
Anonymous
09/09/2023 22:33
Subject: New Mexico Governor's unConstitutional power grab
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Republicans: What is your proposal to end gun violence in America, and to get all of the illegal guns off of the streets and out of the hands of criminals?
If you say "more guns" then that's what's already been done for decades, and it hasn't worked.
How about an ACTUAL proposal?
And if you don't have an actual proposal, then maybe you should STFU and sit down.
So let's hear it.... give me a serious proposal, or STFU and sit down.
Still crickets..
Lock up all democrats?
Are you 12 years old? Drunk? Or otherwise mentally impaired?
Anonymous
09/09/2023 22:32
Subject: New Mexico Governor's unConstitutional power grab
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Republicans: What is your proposal to end gun violence in America, and to get all of the illegal guns off of the streets and out of the hands of criminals?
If you say "more guns" then that's what's already been done for decades, and it hasn't worked.
How about an ACTUAL proposal?
And if you don't have an actual proposal, then maybe you should STFU and sit down.
So let's hear it.... give me a serious proposal, or STFU and sit down.
Well? We're waiting, Republicans.... Where is your serious proposal to deal with violent gun crime?
To Republicans it's not a gun problem...it's a mental health problem. But just because a "good guy with a gun" has no mental health issues now is no guarantee that they'll have no mental health issues in the future (and they'll still own that gun).
Canada, the UK, Australia, Japan all have mental health issues just like us...but you know what they don't have?
And... the Republicans don't actually want to do anything about mental health, either. They've repeatedly cut funding and attacked anything geared toward treating mental illness.
The "we don't have a gun problem, we have a mental health problem" is nothing but an empty deflection from the GOP.
If anything, with nonsense like that, and that Republicans accept and repeat that obvious-BS line, one has to conclude that the mental health problem is widespread within the GOP itself.
If you care more about your delusional rambo fantasies of some dystopian world where you actually have to defend yourself with an arsenal of guns (which, unless you are a drug dealer or otherwise involved in an illegal criminal enterprise is HIGHLY unlikely to ever happen) than you care about an actual school full of the corpses of children so badly injured by being shot with an AR-15 that they have to be identfied by DNA then you are very likely the one with a mental health problem. Seek help, people.
Anonymous
09/09/2023 22:31
Subject: New Mexico Governor's unConstitutional power grab
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Republicans: What is your proposal to end gun violence in America, and to get all of the illegal guns off of the streets and out of the hands of criminals?
If you say "more guns" then that's what's already been done for decades, and it hasn't worked.
How about an ACTUAL proposal?
And if you don't have an actual proposal, then maybe you should STFU and sit down.
So let's hear it.... give me a serious proposal, or STFU and sit down.
Still crickets..
Lock up all democrats?
Anonymous
09/09/2023 22:21
Subject: New Mexico Governor's unConstitutional power grab
Anonymous wrote:Republicans: What is your proposal to end gun violence in America, and to get all of the illegal guns off of the streets and out of the hands of criminals?
If you say "more guns" then that's what's already been done for decades, and it hasn't worked.
How about an ACTUAL proposal?
And if you don't have an actual proposal, then maybe you should STFU and sit down.
So let's hear it.... give me a serious proposal, or STFU and sit down.
Still crickets..