Anonymous
09/02/2023 22:01
Subject: Youngkin’s Power Grab
Anonymous wrote:All every state needs to do is put abortion on the ballot like they did in Kansas.
That was the entire point of overturning Dobbs. Democrats like to turn it into the sky is falling because some wackadoo Republican disagrees personally with the procedure, but the point of overturning it federally was to let each state decide what they want. If all 50 states want to put it on the ballot- great. Again, that was the point.
Anonymous
09/02/2023 21:53
Subject: Youngkin’s Power Grab
All every state needs to do is put abortion on the ballot like they did in Kansas.
Anonymous
09/02/2023 21:50
Subject: Youngkin’s Power Grab
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:All any sane person wants is:
Abortion up to 16 weeks, later if medically necessary for like of the mother or in cases of rape on incest.
Parents are in charge of the child’s education.
Lowest possible taxes.
Strong state university system.
Constitutional carry.
These are not things that “sane” people want.
16w is WAY too early.
Taxes: you get what you pay for
Nutters should not carry guns or make educational decisions for school districts.
I had an abortion at 20 weeks. My son had already died due to a condition we knew about and were monitoring since our scan at 12 weeks. But it was still an “abortion” because that’s what they call the procedure.
16 weeks is not too early. Not even close. You don’t know what you’re talking about. These are human beings.
Let’s be totally clear. You would not have been able to terminate your pregnancy. No abortion means no abortion. Under an abortion ban, You would have carried your fetus to term, or until your body naturally went in to labor, or until you were near death from sepsis, or until you died of sepsis.
Your post is false. Youngkin's position on abortion provides exceptions for risks to a woman's health.
“Risk to a woman’s health” is too vague, and will always be too vague. Basically that’s playing out right now in other states as “wait until an easy treatment becomes life threatening one way or another, once she is knocking on death’s door, then we will be allowed to try to save her life (and her fertility)”.
Politicians need to stay out of wombs and out of practicing medicine, because they are all too dumb.
Anonymous
09/02/2023 21:45
Subject: Re:Youngkin’s Power Grab
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Here’s a little taste of the Rublicans that will be on the ballot in November: House of Delegates member and candidate Kim Taylor voted yes on legislation that would define the accidental or inadvertent killing of an unborn fetus as manslaughter. Similarly, Chris Obenshain, another House of Delegates candidate, is aligned with his cousin Mark Obenshain, who introduced a bill in the Virginia Senate in 2009 “that would have required a woman to report her miscarriage to the police within 24 hours of it happening or risk jail time,” according to HuffPost.
Wtf?!
This is serious Handmaid’s sht
The VA house has several complete lunatics in it now, I think about 6 since the last election. You can be conservative, fine with me, but they are lunatics even among the MAGA crowd.
Anonymous
09/02/2023 21:44
Subject: Youngkin’s Power Grab
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:All any sane person wants is:
Abortion up to 16 weeks, later if medically necessary for like of the mother or in cases of rape on incest.
Parents are in charge of the child’s education.
Lowest possible taxes.
Strong state university system.
Constitutional carry.
These are not things that “sane” people want.
16w is WAY too early.
Taxes: you get what you pay for
Nutters should not carry guns or make educational decisions for school districts.
I had an abortion at 20 weeks. My son had already died due to a condition we knew about and were monitoring since our scan at 12 weeks. But it was still an “abortion” because that’s what they call the procedure.
16 weeks is not too early. Not even close. You don’t know what you’re talking about. These are human beings.
Let’s be totally clear. You would not have been able to terminate your pregnancy. No abortion means no abortion. Under an abortion ban, You would have carried your fetus to term, or until your body naturally went in to labor, or until you were near death from sepsis, or until you died of sepsis.
Your post is false. Youngkin's position on abortion provides exceptions for risks to a woman's health.
Anonymous
09/02/2023 21:04
Subject: Youngkin’s Power Grab
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:All any sane person wants is:
Abortion up to 16 weeks, later if medically necessary for like of the mother or in cases of rape on incest.
Parents are in charge of the child’s education.
Lowest possible taxes.
Strong state university system.
Constitutional carry.
These are not things that “sane” people want.
16w is WAY too early.
Taxes: you get what you pay for
Nutters should not carry guns or make educational decisions for school districts.
I had an abortion at 20 weeks. My son had already died due to a condition we knew about and were monitoring since our scan at 12 weeks. But it was still an “abortion” because that’s what they call the procedure.
16 weeks is not too early. Not even close. You don’t know what you’re talking about. These are human beings.
Let’s be totally clear. You would not have been able to terminate your pregnancy. No abortion means no abortion. Under an abortion ban, You would have carried your fetus to term, or until your body naturally went in to labor, or until you were near death from sepsis, or until you died of sepsis.
Anonymous
09/02/2023 20:51
Subject: Youngkin’s Power Grab
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:All any sane person wants is:
Abortion up to 16 weeks, later if medically necessary for like of the mother or in cases of rape on incest.
Parents are in charge of the child’s education.
Lowest possible taxes.
Strong state university system.
Constitutional carry.
Strong state university system but no to the others.
1) No restrictions on abortion whatsoever. That is between a woman/family and the doctor.
2) Parents are not “in charge” of their children’s education. The schools are in charge. The schools know better and have training in pedagogy and set the curriculum. Parents need to stay in their lanes. They’re not important stakeholders.
3) we want more gun control, not “constitutional carry.” Ideally, we should confiscate guns from most people. Anyone caught carrying a hidden gun should be imprisoned for a minimum of 30 years. We are sick of guns in this country.
Taxes will be what they are for things like a strong state university system and other public goods.
Fortunately, the majority of Virginia’s voters — both Ds and Rs — disagree with your extremist views.
And stop using “we.” You’re one person.
The PP isn’t extremist at all. We - the majority of voters - agree with most of what they said.
Then why is Youngkin’s approval rating above 50% and disapproval rating in the low 30s?
There’s no “we.” Just “you.”
And an uninformed “you” at that.
Anonymous
09/02/2023 20:32
Subject: Youngkin’s Power Grab
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am so scared about the General Assembly. If they take the Senate, say goodbye to women's rights in VA.
Remember all of those people justifying their Youngkin vote saying that RvW wasn't going anywhere? F you.
If abortion is on the ballot (and Democrats absolutely should put it there), Youngkin will fail miserably.
He only won because McAuliffe was a bad candidate the second time around and made that gaffe about parents staying out of education. He was RIGHT of course, but it was the way he said it. Between that and scaring a bunch of NOVA southeast Asians that elite education programs were in danger, Youngkin squeaked into office.
But the education stuff won’t hunt anymore. Miyares and his investigation of Loudoun flamed out dramatically, parents see right through the idiotic war in woke stuff, and there’s no way Youngkin surrogates will win with similar messaging.
Put abortion on the ballot and Dems will run the table.
You overlook the part where it’s noted that Youngkin has a 57% approval rating in a state where Biden has a 40% approval rating.
Until the Democrats stop with the self-inflicted wounds, recognize merit, and embrace equal opportunity rather than equal outcomes, they will continue to lose support.
Democrats support women. Period.
Either that's important to you or it's not.
There are many, many women who disagree and do not support Democrats.
Yes, clearly some women don’t want to support other women. We’ve all met women like that at some point in our lives.
I don't think you can comprehend that they have other viewpoints.
Yes, we understand their viewpoint. They DGAF about other women. And they get sick satisfaction from forcing their beliefs on others.
They care about other women just fine, they just don't agree with opinionated left wing political hacks.
Both are entitled to their own opinions, but to say they don't care about other women is incorrect.
Again its not "we" unless you suffer from schizophrenia.
Anonymous
09/02/2023 19:53
Subject: Youngkin’s Power Grab
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am so scared about the General Assembly. If they take the Senate, say goodbye to women's rights in VA.
Remember all of those people justifying their Youngkin vote saying that RvW wasn't going anywhere? F you.
If abortion is on the ballot (and Democrats absolutely should put it there), Youngkin will fail miserably.
He only won because McAuliffe was a bad candidate the second time around and made that gaffe about parents staying out of education. He was RIGHT of course, but it was the way he said it. Between that and scaring a bunch of NOVA southeast Asians that elite education programs were in danger, Youngkin squeaked into office.
But the education stuff won’t hunt anymore. Miyares and his investigation of Loudoun flamed out dramatically, parents see right through the idiotic war in woke stuff, and there’s no way Youngkin surrogates will win with similar messaging.
Put abortion on the ballot and Dems will run the table.
You overlook the part where it’s noted that Youngkin has a 57% approval rating in a state where Biden has a 40% approval rating.
Until the Democrats stop with the self-inflicted wounds, recognize merit, and embrace equal opportunity rather than equal outcomes, they will continue to lose support.
Democrats support women. Period.
Either that's important to you or it's not.
There are many, many women who disagree and do not support Democrats.
Yes, clearly some women don’t want to support other women. We’ve all met women like that at some point in our lives.
I don't think you can comprehend that they have other viewpoints.
Yes, we understand their viewpoint. They DGAF about other women. And they get sick satisfaction from forcing their beliefs on others.
Anonymous
09/02/2023 19:37
Subject: Youngkin’s Power Grab
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:"And Youngkin has shifted his position on abortion from seeking a 15- to 20-week ban to saying he will sign “any bill…to protect life,” and adding that he believes life begins at conception."
Sigh, Eileen’s staffers are at it again.
Right now, in the Commonwealth, it’s at 26 weeks (yes, you read that right) and six days’ gestational limit. That is, you guessed it, a third-term abortion. “No one is getting a late-ren abortion,” right? Why is it 26 was 3d? Why? Hmmmm
Youngkin proposed a 15-week gestational limit which is actually more generous than that of regressive, woman-hating ass-backwards places like France and Germany (/s)
(14 and 12 weeks respectively).
No, I told you to get filthy rich Planned Parenthood to pay for your abortion, not the taxpayer.
I totally agree that if he tried to pull a DeSantis and push the limit to six weeks, he would be pilloried and rightly so.
Personally, I would prefer 20 weeks’ gestational limit. Objectively, Youngkin may hold strong personal beliefs and he’s free to talk about them but he must take a moderate approach to this issue or the Republicans will end.
I find the comparison to Europe to be a weird red herring. This isn’t Europe. Republicans have long maintained we shouldn’t be like Europe. It’s one thing I agree with. Why on Earth are you invoking Europe like it’s a useful benchmark for any American policy? How strange. If you’re ready to do that, shall we discuss taxes and health coverage?
But, but DCUM LOVES “Europe!” and always say they will move there. Why don’t you?
Anonymous
09/02/2023 19:25
Subject: Youngkin’s Power Grab
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am so scared about the General Assembly. If they take the Senate, say goodbye to women's rights in VA.
Remember all of those people justifying their Youngkin vote saying that RvW wasn't going anywhere? F you.
If abortion is on the ballot (and Democrats absolutely should put it there), Youngkin will fail miserably.
He only won because McAuliffe was a bad candidate the second time around and made that gaffe about parents staying out of education. He was RIGHT of course, but it was the way he said it. Between that and scaring a bunch of NOVA southeast Asians that elite education programs were in danger, Youngkin squeaked into office.
But the education stuff won’t hunt anymore. Miyares and his investigation of Loudoun flamed out dramatically, parents see right through the idiotic war in woke stuff, and there’s no way Youngkin surrogates will win with similar messaging.
Put abortion on the ballot and Dems will run the table.
You overlook the part where it’s noted that Youngkin has a 57% approval rating in a state where Biden has a 40% approval rating.
Until the Democrats stop with the self-inflicted wounds, recognize merit, and embrace equal opportunity rather than equal outcomes, they will continue to lose support.
Democrats support women. Period.
Either that's important to you or it's not.
There are many, many women who disagree and do not support Democrats.
Yes, clearly some women don’t want to support other women. We’ve all met women like that at some point in our lives.
I don't think you can comprehend that they have other viewpoints.
Anonymous
09/02/2023 17:32
Subject: Youngkin’s Power Grab
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am so scared about the General Assembly. If they take the Senate, say goodbye to women's rights in VA.
Remember all of those people justifying their Youngkin vote saying that RvW wasn't going anywhere? F you.
If abortion is on the ballot (and Democrats absolutely should put it there), Youngkin will fail miserably.
He only won because McAuliffe was a bad candidate the second time around and made that gaffe about parents staying out of education. He was RIGHT of course, but it was the way he said it. Between that and scaring a bunch of NOVA southeast Asians that elite education programs were in danger, Youngkin squeaked into office.
But the education stuff won’t hunt anymore. Miyares and his investigation of Loudoun flamed out dramatically, parents see right through the idiotic war in woke stuff, and there’s no way Youngkin surrogates will win with similar messaging.
Put abortion on the ballot and Dems will run the table.
You overlook the part where it’s noted that Youngkin has a 57% approval rating in a state where Biden has a 40% approval rating.
Until the Democrats stop with the self-inflicted wounds, recognize merit, and embrace equal opportunity rather than equal outcomes, they will continue to lose support.
Democrats support women. Period.
Either that's important to you or it's not.
There are many, many women who disagree and do not support Democrats.
Yes, clearly some women don’t want to support other women. We’ve all met women like that at some point in our lives.
Anonymous
09/02/2023 16:18
Subject: Youngkin’s Power Grab
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am so scared about the General Assembly. If they take the Senate, say goodbye to women's rights in VA.
Remember all of those people justifying their Youngkin vote saying that RvW wasn't going anywhere? F you.
If abortion is on the ballot (and Democrats absolutely should put it there), Youngkin will fail miserably.
He only won because McAuliffe was a bad candidate the second time around and made that gaffe about parents staying out of education. He was RIGHT of course, but it was the way he said it. Between that and scaring a bunch of NOVA southeast Asians that elite education programs were in danger, Youngkin squeaked into office.
But the education stuff won’t hunt anymore. Miyares and his investigation of Loudoun flamed out dramatically, parents see right through the idiotic war in woke stuff, and there’s no way Youngkin surrogates will win with similar messaging.
Put abortion on the ballot and Dems will run the table.
You overlook the part where it’s noted that Youngkin has a 57% approval rating in a state where Biden has a 40% approval rating.
Until the Democrats stop with the self-inflicted wounds, recognize merit, and embrace equal opportunity rather than equal outcomes, they will continue to lose support.
Democrats support women. Period.
Either that's important to you or it's not.
There are many, many women who disagree and do not support Democrats.
Anonymous
09/02/2023 16:17
Subject: Youngkin’s Power Grab
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:All any sane person wants is:
Abortion up to 16 weeks, later if medically necessary for like of the mother or in cases of rape on incest.
Parents are in charge of the child’s education.
Lowest possible taxes.
Strong state university system.
Constitutional carry.
Strong state university system but no to the others.
1) No restrictions on abortion whatsoever. That is between a woman/family and the doctor.
2) Parents are not “in charge” of their children’s education. The schools are in charge. The schools know better and have training in pedagogy and set the curriculum. Parents need to stay in their lanes. They’re not important stakeholders.
3) we want more gun control, not “constitutional carry.” Ideally, we should confiscate guns from most people. Anyone caught carrying a hidden gun should be imprisoned for a minimum of 30 years. We are sick of guns in this country.
Taxes will be what they are for things like a strong state university system and other public goods.
Look, I'm a lefty but parents are absolutely important stakeholders in children's education. Teachers on this board tell us this every day.
DP. I think it's a poor choice in words. Parents are important stakeholders, but they don't individually decide curriculum for a school district.
Anonymous
09/02/2023 16:14
Subject: Youngkin’s Power Grab
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am so scared about the General Assembly. If they take the Senate, say goodbye to women's rights in VA.
Remember all of those people justifying their Youngkin vote saying that RvW wasn't going anywhere? F you.
If abortion is on the ballot (and Democrats absolutely should put it there), Youngkin will fail miserably.
He only won because McAuliffe was a bad candidate the second time around and made that gaffe about parents staying out of education. He was RIGHT of course, but it was the way he said it. Between that and scaring a bunch of NOVA southeast Asians that elite education programs were in danger, Youngkin squeaked into office.
But the education stuff won’t hunt anymore. Miyares and his investigation of Loudoun flamed out dramatically, parents see right through the idiotic war in woke stuff, and there’s no way Youngkin surrogates will win with similar messaging.
Put abortion on the ballot and Dems will run the table.
You overlook the part where it’s noted that Youngkin has a 57% approval rating in a state where Biden has a 40% approval rating.
Until the Democrats stop with the self-inflicted wounds, recognize merit, and embrace equal opportunity rather than equal outcomes, they will continue to lose support.
Democrats support women. Period.
Either that's important to you or it's not.