Anonymous
08/29/2023 15:36
Subject: Re:Longterm dc area residents, have you noticed decline ?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I had to take a metro bus at night from Tenley circle to what is now Twinbrook metro.
No, it’s is in no way shape or form worse now.
Girls were legally assaulted by prep school boys at parties or sleepovers, where do you think the wisdom of not letting girls sleep over if a boy lives in the house came from?
Shootings/home invasions/car jacking in and around Twinbrook and Lincoln park happened on the regular,
Wheaton… hello? Did you just never go there?
Richard Montgomery had a smoking section for students and there were 20 year olds still going to school.
My brothers 1st day at broom MS, 2 kids fought at lunch and teacher watched until it was over and just walked their bloodied bodies to the nurse.
You have a very bad memory or you were very sheltered.
Or you're an external agitator trying to spin up drama before an election.
Uh, no, there are more than enough actual real people in the area with opinions like this, and there's absolutely no reason to think Russian trolls or whatever other "external agitator" you have in mind have even heard of, let alone posted on, this site.
You really think DC residents are ignorant enough to complain about “defund the police”?
Yes, definitely, D.C. residents and/or residents of suburbs nearby alike.
Anonymous
08/29/2023 15:34
Subject: Re:Longterm dc area residents, have you noticed decline ?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Now do 2022 and 2023.
Like I said, there was an increase during covid, but after that settles down I expect the crime rate to continue to drop.
But it’s not. It’s gone way up.
We are still dealing with fallout from the pandemic. Things will calm down. As I said, "after that settles down I expect the crime rate to continue to drop".
DC is an outlier compared to trends in other big US cities, that undercuts any validity to your theory.
Anonymous
08/29/2023 15:31
Subject: Longterm dc area residents, have you noticed decline ?
Anonymous wrote:DC native, and it’s definitely better than it was in the 70s/80s, but worse than it was 10-15 years ago.
And those whose response to the current wave is that anyone who complains is not cut out for city life and should move to the suburbs is just an idiot.
Agree with this and here since early 90s. Schools also seem to be slipping back. Neither trend should be ignored.
Anonymous
08/29/2023 15:29
Subject: Longterm dc area residents, have you noticed decline ?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Things in DC we’re definitely worse in the early 90s. That said post-pandemic the social fabric is fraying a bit.
Were you here then? I was and I disagree in many respects. Crime was less random and did not tend to occur in broad daylight and with witnesses, as it does today. Metro was fairly safe and far more orderly. Flash mob robberies of CVS and grocery stores and a thriving resale market on the street were not common. Undercover policing was active in Adams Morgan, now vice squads do not exist in neighborhoods, Lanier ended them at a safer time. Etc., etc.
DP. I was there. Everyone had bars on their windows, 14th St was for people buying sex services, Adams Morgan was sketchy, there was a riot in Mount Pleasant, and homicides reached a peak of 509 in 1991.
I was here then too. If you weren’t you can’t imagine 14th street then. As a PP said, literally hookers and drug dealers visible everywhere.
Check out the corner of 7th and H Sts. Your memories will come back to life.
U around 14th has really regressed too, the area around the McDonalds is wild at all hours.
Anonymous
08/29/2023 15:27
Subject: Longterm dc area residents, have you noticed decline ?
Defund means to take away funding.
Police means hired people to enforce laws.
Defunding the police is idiotic. Increasing social services is an incredible idea. These are unrelated ideas that were conflated for impact and they have had the impact one would have expected. It is easy to cut down all morale for police, much harder to increase social services. I hope those who supported this concept realize that it actually decreased social services while increasing crime greatly. The unhomed for instance now have a much more dangerous life.
Police means hired people to enforce laws.
Defunding the police is idiotic. Increasing social services is an incredible idea. These are unrelated ideas that were conflated for impact and they have had the impact one would have expected. It is easy to cut down all morale for police, much harder to increase social services. I hope those who supported this concept realize that it actually decreased social services while increasing crime greatly. The unhomed for instance now have a much more dangerous life.
Anonymous
08/29/2023 15:22
Subject: Longterm dc area residents, have you noticed decline ?
Remember not every crime is going to showing up in the charts, especially if they are not being prosecuted.
Anonymous
08/29/2023 15:20
Subject: Longterm dc area residents, have you noticed decline ?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Blame the morons who chanted that we need to defund the police. Absolute idiocy.
I’d go with the idiot who encourage people to hang mike pence and said the virus was a hoax.
Why not both? Extremism is the enemy of stability.
What is extreme about "defund the police"? Do you even know what that means?
It means defund the police unless you’re just a wanking poser.
So that’s a no.
Nothing “extremist” about it.
Fake revolutionary. Keep "defund" out of your mouth.
It was a poor word choice. Dunces don’t understand it.
Anonymous
08/29/2023 14:48
Subject: Longterm dc area residents, have you noticed decline ?
We've lived here for over 20 years and it is much better. In the 90s, we were burglarized 3 times and had regular car break ins and that was in 3 different neighborhoods.
Anonymous
08/29/2023 14:47
Subject: Longterm dc area residents, have you noticed decline ?
The city is better than 30-40 years ago but today trending in the wrong direction.
Some of the suburbs, especially parts of MoCo, are worse than 10-20 years ago and continue to trend in the wrong direction.
Some of the suburbs, especially parts of MoCo, are worse than 10-20 years ago and continue to trend in the wrong direction.
Anonymous
08/29/2023 14:43
Subject: Longterm dc area residents, have you noticed decline ?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Blame the morons who chanted that we need to defund the police. Absolute idiocy.
I’d go with the idiot who encourage people to hang mike pence and said the virus was a hoax.
Why not both? Extremism is the enemy of stability.
What is extreme about "defund the police"? Do you even know what that means?
It means defund the police unless you’re just a wanking poser.
So that’s a no.
Nothing “extremist” about it.
Fake revolutionary. Keep "defund" out of your mouth.
Anonymous
08/29/2023 14:32
Subject: Longterm dc area residents, have you noticed decline ?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Blame the morons who chanted that we need to defund the police. Absolute idiocy.
I’d go with the idiot who encourage people to hang mike pence and said the virus was a hoax.
Why not both? Extremism is the enemy of stability.
What is extreme about "defund the police"? Do you even know what that means?
It means defund the police unless you’re just a wanking poser.
So that’s a no.
Nothing “extremist” about it.
Anonymous
08/29/2023 14:29
Subject: Longterm dc area residents, have you noticed decline ?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Blame the morons who chanted that we need to defund the police. Absolute idiocy.
I’d go with the idiot who encourage people to hang mike pence and said the virus was a hoax.
Why not both? Extremism is the enemy of stability.
What is extreme about "defund the police"? Do you even know what that means?
Whether you call it "rioting" or "rebellion," it is terrible for stability... no matter which side is doing it:
Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
Anonymous
08/29/2023 14:22
Subject: Longterm dc area residents, have you noticed decline ?
This is new and not just a problem in DC. Needs to be addressed. Many of the kids who are the foot soldiers (some with visible ankle monitors! are controlled by adult criminals). The idea that this is happening due to "need" is part of the problem, DC has a plethora of social programs, EBT, food banks, etc. We are ALL paying in higher prices (nope, propaganda re: insurance is false too) and those who will suffer most due to closing stores and spreading food deserts are the poor and minorities.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/boosters-fencers-and-cleaners-inside-cartels-newest-criminal-enterprise-of-organized-retail-theft/ar-AA1fVy6n
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/boosters-fencers-and-cleaners-inside-cartels-newest-criminal-enterprise-of-organized-retail-theft/ar-AA1fVy6n
Anonymous
08/29/2023 14:16
Subject: Longterm dc area residents, have you noticed decline ?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Seems way better than when I got year years ago. A little worse after the pandemic but not terrible. I suspect crime will continue the overall trend down.
Trend downward? Uuuuh.
https://mpdc.dc.gov/page/district-crime-data-glance
Yes, the trend was decreasing crime rates before the pandemic. Look at the #s at the bottom. It was even worse in the 80s/90s.
This is only useful when it's shown with absolute number of crimes.
DP. No, it’s not just an issue with number of crimes. It seems like the data analysts do not have the intelligence or power to factor in other real world incidences like the randomness of crime. I moved here in the ‘80s. As a single white woman, you basically did not go anywhere except far upper NW unless it was to go down town, visit Capitol Hill and the urban pioneers living there, or to get some guys to take you to Tracks.
Then the city improved under Tony Williams.
Since the end of the pandemic, things are off the rails. If you had told me back then that carjackings and armed robberies would become weekly or monthly occurrences in the best parts of the city and its once sancrodanct adjacent towns, villages, and cities, I would have never believed it. We are staying put for now, but my days of blithely walking home from dinner out are over.
sacrosanct
1: most sacred or holy : inviolable
2: treated as if holy : immune from criticism or violation
Why were Friendship Heights, the Chevy Chases, and Bethesda "sacrosanct"?
Anonymous
08/29/2023 14:12
Subject: Longterm dc area residents, have you noticed decline ?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Blame the morons who chanted that we need to defund the police. Absolute idiocy.
I’d go with the idiot who encourage people to hang mike pence and said the virus was a hoax.
Why not both? Extremism is the enemy of stability.
What is extreme about "defund the police"? Do you even know what that means?
It means defund the police unless you’re just a wanking poser.