Anonymous
08/28/2023 13:28
Subject: Why are people in this region left lane campers?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:GET OUT OF THE WAY. If you're not passing in the left lane and there are people behind you, move over. Why is it so hard? The amount of times you drive and get stuck by someone going slow in the left lane is infuriating. It causes sooooo much traffic when people cannot pass because some moron is going slow in the left lane or is going the same speed as other cars and is creating a wall. Get the heck outta the way. You also cause higher risk for accidents, because now everyone has to weave in an out of traffic to get around your a$$ since you're clogging up the flow of traffic. People around here probably have the lowest driving IQ I've ever seen anywhere in this country. It's worse here than LA, NY, and Chicago. Why are there so many oblivious people around here in the roads? Lack of testing by states and DC?
No! On the beltway the speed limit is generally 65 and traffic is dense. Everyone in the right lane is going 65 and everyone in the left lane is already going 75. And you're the reckless tailgating a$$hat who wants everyone to move over so you can go 100?!
And yet the actual speed limit on the beltway is 55.
Doesn’t matter. The obligation to yield to faster moving traffic is independent of the speed limit. Self-appointed speed limit enforcers in the left lane create dangerous conditions.
Wrong. If the speed limit is 55 and traffic in the left lane is already going 75, nobody is required to pull over to the right so you can go 95. They need to arrest reckless speeders like you.
See my post. It is not legal in Virginia to travel in the left lane. Only when actively passing. So yes you are required to get out of that lane unless you are actively passing someone.
https://www.whsv.com/content/news/Virginia-law-targets-slow-left-lane-drivers-479440683.html
Oh the irony. You're trying to justify breaking the law (felony reckless speeding) by pointing to an obscure technical traffic regulation (left lane passing). Love it!
Staying right and passing left is not an “obscure technical traffic regulation,” it’s a basic rule of the road everywhere. And no one is talking about “felony reckless speeding” except for you. No one can go 65 when you’ve sat your @ss right next to another car, both of you going 60 for miles and miles, and that happens ALL THE TIME.
Anonymous
08/28/2023 13:20
Subject: Why are people in this region left lane campers?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Also, you are not entitled to a clear road free of traffic. The rest of us are adjusting our speed to other cars: you can too.
The point is that on any highway that's not terribly congested, driving properly (using the left lane for passing only) means that NO ONE needs to adjust their speed to other cars. The "drive in the right lane, pass in the left" takes care of that problem entirely! Everyone can drive at their desired speed!
(It's not Ohioans, I learned to drive there. I blame Maryland.)
I'm all for blaming Maryland when possible, but left lane camping is a Virginia custom. 100%
+1 From someone who drives to Jersey and back every weekend this time of year. About 75% of the time it’s a Virginia driver blocking the left lane at the bottom of the Turnpike when it’s only two lanes.
Anonymous
08/28/2023 11:53
Subject: Why are people in this region left lane campers?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:In Virginia it is illegal to be in the left lane unless actively passing. Troopers do give tickets for this.
On the beltway, it's hard to not be actively passing in the left lane. Any trooper pulling anyone over on 495, 66, 95, or 395 is looking for a pretext for a stop
Actively passing means passing. If you are going the same speed as the car in the next lane you are not passing and need to get out of the left lane.
The left lane is almost always 'actively passing.' People who drive faster filter left. 495 isn't a two lane rural road where the left lane can just sit empty
Anonymous
08/28/2023 11:50
Subject: Why are people in this region left lane campers?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:GET OUT OF THE WAY. If you're not passing in the left lane and there are people behind you, move over. Why is it so hard? The amount of times you drive and get stuck by someone going slow in the left lane is infuriating. It causes sooooo much traffic when people cannot pass because some moron is going slow in the left lane or is going the same speed as other cars and is creating a wall. Get the heck outta the way. You also cause higher risk for accidents, because now everyone has to weave in an out of traffic to get around your a$$ since you're clogging up the flow of traffic. People around here probably have the lowest driving IQ I've ever seen anywhere in this country. It's worse here than LA, NY, and Chicago. Why are there so many oblivious people around here in the roads? Lack of testing by states and DC?
No! On the beltway the speed limit is generally 65 and traffic is dense. Everyone in the right lane is going 65 and everyone in the left lane is already going 75. And you're the reckless tailgating a$$hat who wants everyone to move over so you can go 100?!
And yet the actual speed limit on the beltway is 55.
Doesn’t matter. The obligation to yield to faster moving traffic is independent of the speed limit. Self-appointed speed limit enforcers in the left lane create dangerous conditions.
Wrong. If the speed limit is 55 and traffic in the left lane is already going 75, nobody is required to pull over to the right so you can go 95. They need to arrest reckless speeders like you.
See my post. It is not legal in Virginia to travel in the left lane. Only when actively passing. So yes you are required to get out of that lane unless you are actively passing someone.
https://www.whsv.com/content/news/Virginia-law-targets-slow-left-lane-drivers-479440683.html
Oh the irony. You're trying to justify breaking the law (felony reckless speeding) by pointing to an obscure technical traffic regulation (left lane passing). Love it!
Anonymous
08/28/2023 11:45
Subject: Why are people in this region left lane campers?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:GET OUT OF THE WAY. If you're not passing in the left lane and there are people behind you, move over. Why is it so hard? The amount of times you drive and get stuck by someone going slow in the left lane is infuriating. It causes sooooo much traffic when people cannot pass because some moron is going slow in the left lane or is going the same speed as other cars and is creating a wall. Get the heck outta the way. You also cause higher risk for accidents, because now everyone has to weave in an out of traffic to get around your a$$ since you're clogging up the flow of traffic. People around here probably have the lowest driving IQ I've ever seen anywhere in this country. It's worse here than LA, NY, and Chicago. Why are there so many oblivious people around here in the roads? Lack of testing by states and DC?
No! On the beltway the speed limit is generally 65 and traffic is dense. Everyone in the right lane is going 65 and everyone in the left lane is already going 75. And you're the reckless tailgating a$$hat who wants everyone to move over so you can go 100?!
And yet the actual speed limit on the beltway is 55.
Doesn’t matter. The obligation to yield to faster moving traffic is independent of the speed limit. Self-appointed speed limit enforcers in the left lane create dangerous conditions.
Wrong. If the speed limit is 55 and traffic in the left lane is already going 75, nobody is required to pull over to the right so you can go 95. They need to arrest reckless speeders like you.
See my post. It is not legal in Virginia to travel in the left lane. Only when actively passing. So yes you are required to get out of that lane unless you are actively passing someone.
https://www.whsv.com/content/news/Virginia-law-targets-slow-left-lane-drivers-479440683.html
Wrong again. People in the left lane are continually passing the slower traffic in the right lane, so traveling in the left lane is exactly what's required.
You think you're smart but you make no sense. Nobody going the speed limit needs to pull over to the right so you can break the law. That's like insisting that other customers hold open the door for you so you can rob the supermarket even faster.
Anonymous
08/28/2023 11:45
Subject: Re:Why are people in this region left lane campers?
Anonymous wrote:There is just too much traffic. When you have 2-4 lanes bumper to bumper, no, it's not rational to leave one empty, especially when the right lane isn't able to travel at the full speed limit either. I almost never see someone clogging up the left lane by driving at exactly the speed limit on 270 or 495, just really heavy traffic where nobody gets to go as fast as they want in any lane.
No, as long as you’re keeping up with the traffic in the left lane you’re fine. What people object to is people in the left lane with open road in front of them who are traveling slowly and not moving back over. You need to promptly pass the car you want to and then move back to the right OR be keeping up with the traffic ahead of you in the left lane.
Anonymous
08/28/2023 11:41
Subject: Why are people in this region left lane campers?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:In Virginia it is illegal to be in the left lane unless actively passing. Troopers do give tickets for this.
On the beltway, it's hard to not be actively passing in the left lane. Any trooper pulling anyone over on 495, 66, 95, or 395 is looking for a pretext for a stop
Actively passing means passing. If you are going the same speed as the car in the next lane you are not passing and need to get out of the left lane.
Anonymous
08/28/2023 11:40
Subject: Why are people in this region left lane campers?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:GET OUT OF THE WAY. If you're not passing in the left lane and there are people behind you, move over. Why is it so hard? The amount of times you drive and get stuck by someone going slow in the left lane is infuriating. It causes sooooo much traffic when people cannot pass because some moron is going slow in the left lane or is going the same speed as other cars and is creating a wall. Get the heck outta the way. You also cause higher risk for accidents, because now everyone has to weave in an out of traffic to get around your a$$ since you're clogging up the flow of traffic. People around here probably have the lowest driving IQ I've ever seen anywhere in this country. It's worse here than LA, NY, and Chicago. Why are there so many oblivious people around here in the roads? Lack of testing by states and DC?
No! On the beltway the speed limit is generally 65 and traffic is dense. Everyone in the right lane is going 65 and everyone in the left lane is already going 75. And you're the reckless tailgating a$$hat who wants everyone to move over so you can go 100?!
And yet the actual speed limit on the beltway is 55.
Doesn’t matter. The obligation to yield to faster moving traffic is independent of the speed limit. Self-appointed speed limit enforcers in the left lane create dangerous conditions.
Wrong. If the speed limit is 55 and traffic in the left lane is already going 75, nobody is required to pull over to the right so you can go 95. They need to arrest reckless speeders like you.
See my post. It is not legal in Virginia to travel in the left lane. Only when actively passing. So yes you are required to get out of that lane unless you are actively passing someone.
https://www.whsv.com/content/news/Virginia-law-targets-slow-left-lane-drivers-479440683.html
Anonymous
08/28/2023 11:40
Subject: Why are people in this region left lane campers?
Anonymous wrote:In Virginia it is illegal to be in the left lane unless actively passing. Troopers do give tickets for this.
On the beltway, it's hard to not be actively passing in the left lane. Any trooper pulling anyone over on 495, 66, 95, or 395 is looking for a pretext for a stop
Anonymous
08/28/2023 11:38
Subject: Why are people in this region left lane campers?
In Virginia it is illegal to be in the left lane unless actively passing. Troopers do give tickets for this.
Anonymous
08/28/2023 11:24
Subject: Why are people in this region left lane campers?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:GET OUT OF THE WAY. If you're not passing in the left lane and there are people behind you, move over. Why is it so hard? The amount of times you drive and get stuck by someone going slow in the left lane is infuriating. It causes sooooo much traffic when people cannot pass because some moron is going slow in the left lane or is going the same speed as other cars and is creating a wall. Get the heck outta the way. You also cause higher risk for accidents, because now everyone has to weave in an out of traffic to get around your a$$ since you're clogging up the flow of traffic. People around here probably have the lowest driving IQ I've ever seen anywhere in this country. It's worse here than LA, NY, and Chicago. Why are there so many oblivious people around here in the roads? Lack of testing by states and DC?
No! On the beltway the speed limit is generally 65 and traffic is dense. Everyone in the right lane is going 65 and everyone in the left lane is already going 75. And you're the reckless tailgating a$$hat who wants everyone to move over so you can go 100?!
And yet the actual speed limit on the beltway is 55.
Doesn’t matter. The obligation to yield to faster moving traffic is independent of the speed limit. Self-appointed speed limit enforcers in the left lane create dangerous conditions.
Wrong. If the speed limit is 55 and traffic in the left lane is already going 75, nobody is required to pull over to the right so you can go 95. They need to arrest reckless speeders like you.
Anonymous
08/28/2023 11:17
Subject: Why are people in this region left lane campers?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Also, you are not entitled to a clear road free of traffic. The rest of us are adjusting our speed to other cars: you can too.
The point is that on any highway that's not terribly congested, driving properly (using the left lane for passing only) means that NO ONE needs to adjust their speed to other cars. The "drive in the right lane, pass in the left" takes care of that problem entirely! Everyone can drive at their desired speed!
(It's not Ohioans, I learned to drive there. I blame Maryland.)
But the highways here ARE "terribly congested," that's the point. The volume of cars means all the lanes are in use. Plus lots of trucks, sometimes a right lane closed for construction etc. It's a mess. It's not a situation where one whole lane came be left empty just for passing.
Anonymous
08/28/2023 11:04
Subject: Why are people in this region left lane campers?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:GET OUT OF THE WAY. If you're not passing in the left lane and there are people behind you, move over. Why is it so hard? The amount of times you drive and get stuck by someone going slow in the left lane is infuriating. It causes sooooo much traffic when people cannot pass because some moron is going slow in the left lane or is going the same speed as other cars and is creating a wall. Get the heck outta the way. You also cause higher risk for accidents, because now everyone has to weave in an out of traffic to get around your a$$ since you're clogging up the flow of traffic. People around here probably have the lowest driving IQ I've ever seen anywhere in this country. It's worse here than LA, NY, and Chicago. Why are there so many oblivious people around here in the roads? Lack of testing by states and DC?
No! On the beltway the speed limit is generally 65 and traffic is dense. Everyone in the right lane is going 65 and everyone in the left lane is already going 75. And you're the reckless tailgating a$$hat who wants everyone to move over so you can go 100?!
And yet the actual speed limit on the beltway is 55.
Here are the hall monitors.
Stay right, pass left.
I'm not getting out of a lane moving 65 and into a lane moving 35 so that someone can tailgate the next person in line in the delusion that they can someone how go 75 even though everyone in the left lane is already going as fast as traffic will allow. People seem to think that 495 and 66 and 270 are empty country highways where you can easily get over to let someone pass and then resume your position with no inconvenience.
Outside of rush hour it’s very rarely bumper to bumper. Or 35 mph highways.
Just going around 495, where 95 comes in, where the BW comes in, 95, the right lanes are almost always slow between Braddock and 7, the American Legion are, and then 270 are almost always a mess. In no world is anyone getting over for you when getting over means having to pull into lanes where people are merging on and off and barely moving
Anonymous
08/28/2023 10:58
Subject: Re:Why are people in this region left lane campers?
Anonymous wrote:There is just too much traffic. When you have 2-4 lanes bumper to bumper, no, it's not rational to leave one empty, especially when the right lane isn't able to travel at the full speed limit either. I almost never see someone clogging up the left lane by driving at exactly the speed limit on 270 or 495, just really heavy traffic where nobody gets to go as fast as they want in any lane.
You must never drive outside of rush hour.
Anonymous
08/28/2023 10:42
Subject: Re:Why are people in this region left lane campers?
There is just too much traffic. When you have 2-4 lanes bumper to bumper, no, it's not rational to leave one empty, especially when the right lane isn't able to travel at the full speed limit either. I almost never see someone clogging up the left lane by driving at exactly the speed limit on 270 or 495, just really heavy traffic where nobody gets to go as fast as they want in any lane.