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Anonymous wrote:My kid is both allergic and afraid of dogs (he has been bitten twice by off leash dogs in parks because he runs away from them so they chase him, and in 2 cases, bite him. Doesn’t help when the owner tells him not to run and the dog will stop! Like seriously?anyways I digress). Once we were at the bus stop and a dog licked his face and we had to go home so he could wash his face and take some Zyrtec because his face was covered in hives. It was not the end of the world but he was late for school and also it was disgusting (and, for him, scary). Luckily that person didn’t bring the dog back to the bus stop.

I've taught my dog "no face" which means don't kiss that person's face, only their hands/arms.

Ok great so next time I’ll just have to wash his arms instead of his face as he misses the first part of math in the morning.

Oh, the everloving DRAMA of it all! Clutch your pearls harder.

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Anonymous wrote:I vote no. Dogs are unpredictable, particularly in crowds, adults are distracted, kids don’t always know how to behave around dogs. In short, it’s got all the ingredients for a negative outcome.

Oh please. As if kids are not also unpredictable.

Ok but which of those 2 need to be at the bus stop and which do not. Use critical thinking.

You don’t own public streets and sidewalks. Use critical thinking.

Anonymous wrote:Dogs should not be at the bus stop or school pick up. My elementary school explicitly does not allow this.

Some children (and adults) are scared of dogs and allergic, and as someone pointed out above a lot of people's dogs are not as well behaved as they think they are. God forbid your dog get off leash and bite someone, bites another dog or gets bit by another dog...it's just asking for trouble.

Also, to the person who said it's a great way to socialize your dog, my child is not there to help you train your dog. Leave it at home.

Unless the bus stop is on school property and not on a public street, the school doesn’t get to “explicitly not allow” dogs at the bus stop.

The “just avoid the dog” responses are directly refuted by others on this page who said if your kid is scared of dogs then they DO need to be exposed to dogs to socialize them to dogs better. When of course, they don’t. If a child’s family doesn’t own dogs, the kid is scared of dogs, and the family thus doesn’t go places made for dogs such as dog parks and dog runs, then the kid really doesn’t need to spend time at the bus stop being forced to socialize with someone else’s doodle who just had to come along.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m the one who posted a couple of times about my allergic son and to be clear I actually like dogs, I grew up with a golden, I’d love to have a dog myself but not with my kid being allergic obviously. I think having a kid who is allergic and afraid of dogs has made me realize how awful so many dog owners are , that’s all. Like once we were having a picnic in the park and an off leash dog ran up and grabbed my kids sandwich out of his literal hand. You probably think I’m making this up that he could have been bitten twice , have his sandwich eaten once, etc etc. But no! There are just that many clueless dog owners in my area of my city.

PP, I am an adult with a severe dog allergy, and just cosigning here that you are not crazy. Once you have a real need to avoid dogs, you start noticing how bad a lot of dog owners are. I also break out into hives if a dog licks me, rubs it's nose on me, or rubs it's fur on me and it makes life really difficult. (I also get hives and breathing issues from breathing in the dander, so how fun that people think their dog should go any and all indoor spaces these days!) I have to be hypervigilant just taking a walk in my neighborhood because so many dog owners think nothing is wrong with letting dogs come into contact with other people who didn't consent to it.

For people who are then going to say "oh just go places that don't allow dogs," people do not follow the rules.

For those who think she is making it up, you are super, super lucky not to have this problem.

Just don’t go near the dogs. If they are out walking their dog just avoid them. Simple.

This is why dogs should not be brought to a bus stop. A parent or child who needs to ride the bus need to be at the bus stop and should have access to the stop and the bus without having an allergy trigger near by. If you absolutely must bring your dog to the bus stop (why?!?!?) then stand with your dog 15-20 feet away from the stop and away from the sidewalk to let those who need access to the stop and the bus clear access without the animal there.

I'm sure the allergic parents and kids would love to "just not go near the dogs" but some inconsiderate dog owners don't make that easy because they believe that their wants outweight other people's needs.

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Anonymous wrote:Dogs can be brought to the bus stop, but dogs should be kept at least 15 feet away from the actual bus stop area. Those who want to socialize with the dog are welcome to go over to where the dog it, but the dog should not be brought to the children. Dogs should also be firmly in the control of the dog owner away from the bus stop area.

This. If you have older kids, and a well behaved dog who isn't going to bark or lunge, it's fine to bring them, leashed to the bus stop.

If your kid is going to need you to walk them to the steps of the bus, or your dog is going to get close enough to touch other people who aren't actively seeking out your dog, then it's not OK.

Also, while I have your attention, please don't tie your dog up so that people who are using a sidewalk or an access ramp can't get past without being in your dog's space. It's absolutely ableist and offensive to block access for people who can't use the stairs or step into the grass.

+100 to all of the above.

Anonymous wrote:If it's a well behaved, social dog who gets along with other dogs and kids then it's awesome. If it's a mean dog, keep it at home.

A well-behaved social dog whose owner has complete control over it at all times and is conscious of the fact that not everyone who must use that bus stops likes dogs, even well-behaved ones.

If it's a well behaved, social dog who gets along with other dogs and kids then it's awesome. If it's a mean dog, keep it at home.

I’d like to say if your dog is well behaved, and you are a conscientious dog owner, it’s ok. But let’s be real - everyone thinks that they are. So it has to be a blanket no.
Just remember - no one loses if you don’t bring your dog. If you do bring them, some may lose. It’s an easy answer.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m the one who posted a couple of times about my allergic son and to be clear I actually like dogs, I grew up with a golden, I’d love to have a dog myself but not with my kid being allergic obviously. I think having a kid who is allergic and afraid of dogs has made me realize how awful so many dog owners are , that’s all. Like once we were having a picnic in the park and an off leash dog ran up and grabbed my kids sandwich out of his literal hand. You probably think I’m making this up that he could have been bitten twice , have his sandwich eaten once, etc etc. But no! There are just that many clueless dog owners in my area of my city.

PP, I am an adult with a severe dog allergy, and just cosigning here that you are not crazy. Once you have a real need to avoid dogs, you start noticing how bad a lot of dog owners are. I also break out into hives if a dog licks me, rubs it's nose on me, or rubs it's fur on me and it makes life really difficult. (I also get hives and breathing issues from breathing in the dander, so how fun that people think their dog should go any and all indoor spaces these days!) I have to be hypervigilant just taking a walk in my neighborhood because so many dog owners think nothing is wrong with letting dogs come into contact with other people who didn't consent to it.

For people who are then going to say "oh just go places that don't allow dogs," people do not follow the rules.

For those who think she is making it up, you are super, super lucky not to have this problem.

Just don’t go near the dogs. If they are out walking their dog just avoid them. Simple.

Lol you try avoiding all dogs and get back to me. People sometimes get really upset when I give their dogs a wide berth. I have had people literally change course and try to come towards me with their dogs. Some people cannot believe you don’t want interact with their precious pup.

Omg this. I have had people cross over to our side of the street to get near their dogs while my kid backs away and hides behind me so they get closer and closer to let their disgusting dog lick him while I try to block the stupid dog and ask them to hold their dog and they just keep saying they are friendly and ignore you. It is absolutely infuriating- I am an adult who is not particularly afraid of dogs but hates being licked. It’s disgusting. Why can people not take no for an answer? If a person came up to me and licked me while I told them to stop I would call the police.

I am working with my terrified child but these interactions are very counter productive and make them more scared. What does work is being around well trained dogs that we know and whose owners are respectful. And I’m the only person who gets to decide that - you deciding your dog is friendly and there therefore can go all over my kid is BS.

No one approaching you demanding your child pet their do. You just back off and say, my kid is scared of dogs and we'd prefer not to be around them. I personally don't want your kid touching my dog, especially the kids whose parents will not bathe them regularly.

They might not say “pet my dog or else!!!” but yes people will absolutely come into your space to allow their dogs to jump on you and tell you all kids love their dogs. I have had this happen more than once with each of my kids. I have told people my kid is scared of their dog and they have still either not had control to get the dog back or they just say oh there’s nothing to be scared of.

My older child is now, after a lot of exposure to a friends well behaved dog, no longer scared of dogs but knows to ask for permission before ever touching a dog- some owners are honest their dogs aren’t good with kids and I appreciate that.

Many people are good dog owners and have nice well behaved dogs. I just can’t tell by looking if a stranger is one of those or an otherwise rational person who for some reason has a total blind spot when it comes to their terrible dog- I know a lovely person who still has a dog who has bitten *4 times* in their home with young children (one of whom was bitten by the dog). So when someone is allowing their strange dog to jump all over my terrified child I err on the side of assuming they have bad judgement when it comes to the dog at least.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m the one who posted a couple of times about my allergic son and to be clear I actually like dogs, I grew up with a golden, I’d love to have a dog myself but not with my kid being allergic obviously. I think having a kid who is allergic and afraid of dogs has made me realize how awful so many dog owners are , that’s all. Like once we were having a picnic in the park and an off leash dog ran up and grabbed my kids sandwich out of his literal hand. You probably think I’m making this up that he could have been bitten twice , have his sandwich eaten once, etc etc. But no! There are just that many clueless dog owners in my area of my city.

PP, I am an adult with a severe dog allergy, and just cosigning here that you are not crazy. Once you have a real need to avoid dogs, you start noticing how bad a lot of dog owners are. I also break out into hives if a dog licks me, rubs it's nose on me, or rubs it's fur on me and it makes life really difficult. (I also get hives and breathing issues from breathing in the dander, so how fun that people think their dog should go any and all indoor spaces these days!) I have to be hypervigilant just taking a walk in my neighborhood because so many dog owners think nothing is wrong with letting dogs come into contact with other people who didn't consent to it.

For people who are then going to say "oh just go places that don't allow dogs," people do not follow the rules.

For those who think she is making it up, you are super, super lucky not to have this problem.

Just don’t go near the dogs. If they are out walking their dog just avoid them. Simple.

Lol you try avoiding all dogs and get back to me. People sometimes get really upset when I give their dogs a wide berth. I have had people literally change course and try to come towards me with their dogs. Some people cannot believe you don’t want interact with their precious pup.

Omg this. I have had people cross over to our side of the street to get near their dogs while my kid backs away and hides behind me so they get closer and closer to let their disgusting dog lick him while I try to block the stupid dog and ask them to hold their dog and they just keep saying they are friendly and ignore you. It is absolutely infuriating- I am an adult who is not particularly afraid of dogs but hates being licked. It’s disgusting. Why can people not take no for an answer? If a person came up to me and licked me while I told them to stop I would call the police.

I am working with my terrified child but these interactions are very counter productive and make them more scared. What does work is being around well trained dogs that we know and whose owners are respectful. And I’m the only person who gets to decide that - you deciding your dog is friendly and there therefore can go all over my kid is BS.

Yep. I’m trying to explain I’m horribly allergic while they yell “he’s friendly!! He wont hurt you!” Yes, he will.

So, you just say you're allergic and cannot be around dogs. Sounds like you are looking for drama.

I assure you, I am not. People are so obsessed with pupper or doggo these days that they often won’t take no for an answer. It is insanely stressful and I have to be hyper vigilant everywhere I go b

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Anonymous wrote:People bring their dogs everywhere now. Dogs at brunch, dogs on vacation, dogs in hotels, dogs at summer camp pick up. Where aren’t people taking their dogs is the better question

What else are you supposed to do? Why not bring a dog to pick up and get a walk in. And boarding is expensive and not all dogs do well with it. Sone restaurants allow dogs outside. We keep ours in a stroller so the only way they interact is if someone walks up to them.

Leave your dog at home, like people used to. You are still getting dander into the air and affecting those with allergies.

I will not bring my dog anywhere he is not permitted, but I will bring him anywhere he is permitted. If you don’t like it, take it up with the hotel, restaurant, etc. I’m doing nothing wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m the one who posted a couple of times about my allergic son and to be clear I actually like dogs, I grew up with a golden, I’d love to have a dog myself but not with my kid being allergic obviously. I think having a kid who is allergic and afraid of dogs has made me realize how awful so many dog owners are , that’s all. Like once we were having a picnic in the park and an off leash dog ran up and grabbed my kids sandwich out of his literal hand. You probably think I’m making this up that he could have been bitten twice , have his sandwich eaten once, etc etc. But no! There are just that many clueless dog owners in my area of my city.

PP, I am an adult with a severe dog allergy, and just cosigning here that you are not crazy. Once you have a real need to avoid dogs, you start noticing how bad a lot of dog owners are. I also break out into hives if a dog licks me, rubs it's nose on me, or rubs it's fur on me and it makes life really difficult. (I also get hives and breathing issues from breathing in the dander, so how fun that people think their dog should go any and all indoor spaces these days!) I have to be hypervigilant just taking a walk in my neighborhood because so many dog owners think nothing is wrong with letting dogs come into contact with other people who didn't consent to it.

For people who are then going to say "oh just go places that don't allow dogs," people do not follow the rules.

For those who think she is making it up, you are super, super lucky not to have this problem.

Just don’t go near the dogs. If they are out walking their dog just avoid them. Simple.

Lol you try avoiding all dogs and get back to me. People sometimes get really upset when I give their dogs a wide berth. I have had people literally change course and try to come towards me with their dogs. Some people cannot believe you don’t want interact with their precious pup.

Omg this. I have had people cross over to our side of the street to get near their dogs while my kid backs away and hides behind me so they get closer and closer to let their disgusting dog lick him while I try to block the stupid dog and ask them to hold their dog and they just keep saying they are friendly and ignore you. It is absolutely infuriating- I am an adult who is not particularly afraid of dogs but hates being licked. It’s disgusting. Why can people not take no for an answer? If a person came up to me and licked me while I told them to stop I would call the police.

I am working with my terrified child but these interactions are very counter productive and make them more scared. What does work is being around well trained dogs that we know and whose owners are respectful. And I’m the only person who gets to decide that - you deciding your dog is friendly and there therefore can go all over my kid is BS.

Yep. I’m trying to explain I’m horribly allergic while they yell “he’s friendly!! He wont hurt you!” Yes, he will.

So, you just say you're allergic and cannot be around dogs. Sounds like you are looking for drama.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m the one who posted a couple of times about my allergic son and to be clear I actually like dogs, I grew up with a golden, I’d love to have a dog myself but not with my kid being allergic obviously. I think having a kid who is allergic and afraid of dogs has made me realize how awful so many dog owners are , that’s all. Like once we were having a picnic in the park and an off leash dog ran up and grabbed my kids sandwich out of his literal hand. You probably think I’m making this up that he could have been bitten twice , have his sandwich eaten once, etc etc. But no! There are just that many clueless dog owners in my area of my city.

PP, I am an adult with a severe dog allergy, and just cosigning here that you are not crazy. Once you have a real need to avoid dogs, you start noticing how bad a lot of dog owners are. I also break out into hives if a dog licks me, rubs it's nose on me, or rubs it's fur on me and it makes life really difficult. (I also get hives and breathing issues from breathing in the dander, so how fun that people think their dog should go any and all indoor spaces these days!) I have to be hypervigilant just taking a walk in my neighborhood because so many dog owners think nothing is wrong with letting dogs come into contact with other people who didn't consent to it.

For people who are then going to say "oh just go places that don't allow dogs," people do not follow the rules.

For those who think she is making it up, you are super, super lucky not to have this problem.

Just don’t go near the dogs. If they are out walking their dog just avoid them. Simple.

Lol you try avoiding all dogs and get back to me. People sometimes get really upset when I give their dogs a wide berth. I have had people literally change course and try to come towards me with their dogs. Some people cannot believe you don’t want interact with their precious pup.

Omg this. I have had people cross over to our side of the street to get near their dogs while my kid backs away and hides behind me so they get closer and closer to let their disgusting dog lick him while I try to block the stupid dog and ask them to hold their dog and they just keep saying they are friendly and ignore you. It is absolutely infuriating- I am an adult who is not particularly afraid of dogs but hates being licked. It’s disgusting. Why can people not take no for an answer? If a person came up to me and licked me while I told them to stop I would call the police.

I am working with my terrified child but these interactions are very counter productive and make them more scared. What does work is being around well trained dogs that we know and whose owners are respectful. And I’m the only person who gets to decide that - you deciding your dog is friendly and there therefore can go all over my kid is BS.

No one approaching you demanding your child pet their do. You just back off and say, my kid is scared of dogs and we'd prefer not to be around them. I personally don't want your kid touching my dog, especially the kids whose parents will not bathe them regularly.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m the one who posted a couple of times about my allergic son and to be clear I actually like dogs, I grew up with a golden, I’d love to have a dog myself but not with my kid being allergic obviously. I think having a kid who is allergic and afraid of dogs has made me realize how awful so many dog owners are , that’s all. Like once we were having a picnic in the park and an off leash dog ran up and grabbed my kids sandwich out of his literal hand. You probably think I’m making this up that he could have been bitten twice , have his sandwich eaten once, etc etc. But no! There are just that many clueless dog owners in my area of my city.

PP, I am an adult with a severe dog allergy, and just cosigning here that you are not crazy. Once you have a real need to avoid dogs, you start noticing how bad a lot of dog owners are. I also break out into hives if a dog licks me, rubs it's nose on me, or rubs it's fur on me and it makes life really difficult. (I also get hives and breathing issues from breathing in the dander, so how fun that people think their dog should go any and all indoor spaces these days!) I have to be hypervigilant just taking a walk in my neighborhood because so many dog owners think nothing is wrong with letting dogs come into contact with other people who didn't consent to it.

For people who are then going to say "oh just go places that don't allow dogs," people do not follow the rules.

For those who think she is making it up, you are super, super lucky not to have this problem.

Just don’t go near the dogs. If they are out walking their dog just avoid them. Simple.

Lol you try avoiding all dogs and get back to me. People sometimes get really upset when I give their dogs a wide berth. I have had people literally change course and try to come towards me with their dogs. Some people cannot believe you don’t want interact with their precious pup.

Really, it's not hard. I've done it all my life. Now we have a dog and the only time I go near other's dogs is my dog's friends and I usually avoid them as my spouse is the one who does the socialization, not me. I only like my dog. You act like its hard and its not.