Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is the subtext here that she can afford it and you can’t because she has one kid and you have three?
Regardless there is a lot of truth in what she says, and buying in a “good” district shouldn’t prevent you from thinking critically about your children’s school experience. My sense is that no one is blaming disabled children. Rather it’s the macroeconomics that put so many already stressed children in beforecare and aftercare—and staffing ratios that make harmonious inclusion unlikely.
Familial discrimination much? I have more than three kids and can afford an expensive private for all of them just fine. Don’t judge a family based on the number of kids.
NP.
Good lord. You're really trying to be offended here.
Hard to imagine a more innocuous remark.
Says the person that most likely does not hear these kinds of remarks in a daily basis.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is the subtext here that she can afford it and you can’t because she has one kid and you have three?
Regardless there is a lot of truth in what she says, and buying in a “good” district shouldn’t prevent you from thinking critically about your children’s school experience. My sense is that no one is blaming disabled children. Rather it’s the macroeconomics that put so many already stressed children in beforecare and aftercare—and staffing ratios that make harmonious inclusion unlikely.
Familial discrimination much? I have more than three kids and can afford an expensive private for all of them just fine. Don’t judge a family based on the number of kids.
NP.
Good lord. You're really trying to be offended here.
Hard to imagine a more innocuous remark.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I was a public educator for a long time. I sent my own kids to a public school. But what I've seen over the past few years has made me think that if I had school aged kids now, I would probably not send them to a public school for the exact reasons your family member described. I have no issue with kids who have IEPs. I do have issues with physically aggressive students. Physically aggressive children do not belong in gen Ed rooms, period. I could no longer guarantee that I could provide a basic level of safety for all my students (or myself) in public Ed and I left because of it.
Your family member is making decisions based on real time experiences in schools. She's smart.
+1. Also a former public school teacher. Very supportive of inclusion of kids w various needs and abilities and went through lots of training to effectively differentiate instruction for all learning levels/abilities BUT finally left teaching as I realized that the kids who are violent, aggressive, defiant and oppositional are not going to be managed and it is often not a safe environment for students or staff. neither admin nor parents will do anything about it. Kids aren’t suspended or expelled until something horrible happens. It is is not an environment that is safe for students or teachers. Obviously not every public school has the same issues and there are lots of great public schools out there. but the system is broken and classrooms/schools that were once great can quickly devolve into chaos with a bad mixture of students.
Anonymous wrote:I am physically disabled person from birth. In the 80s when my mother went to register me for kindergarten at our neighborhood school, they refused to agree to put me in a mainstream classroom and wanted to warehouse me in a separate building with all "disabled kids" as in physical, mental, developmental, behavioral, all together aka special ed.
You know who would gladly take me: the three private schools in my town. So maybe OP privates are more inclusive than your preconceived mind thinks. Spend a lot of time with disabled people?

Anonymous wrote:I was a public educator for a long time. I sent my own kids to a public school. But what I've seen over the past few years has made me think that if I had school aged kids now, I would probably not send them to a public school for the exact reasons your family member described. I have no issue with kids who have IEPs. I do have issues with physically aggressive students. Physically aggressive children do not belong in gen Ed rooms, period. I could no longer guarantee that I could provide a basic level of safety for all my students (or myself) in public Ed and I left because of it.
Your family member is making decisions based on real time experiences in schools. She's smart.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is the subtext here that she can afford it and you can’t because she has one kid and you have three?
Regardless there is a lot of truth in what she says, and buying in a “good” district shouldn’t prevent you from thinking critically about your children’s school experience. My sense is that no one is blaming disabled children. Rather it’s the macroeconomics that put so many already stressed children in beforecare and aftercare—and staffing ratios that make harmonious inclusion unlikely.
Familial discrimination much? I have more than three kids and can afford an expensive private for all of them just fine. Don’t judge a family based on the number of kids.
NP.
Good lord. You're really trying to be offended here.
Hard to imagine a more innocuous remark.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is the subtext here that she can afford it and you can’t because she has one kid and you have three?
Regardless there is a lot of truth in what she says, and buying in a “good” district shouldn’t prevent you from thinking critically about your children’s school experience. My sense is that no one is blaming disabled children. Rather it’s the macroeconomics that put so many already stressed children in beforecare and aftercare—and staffing ratios that make harmonious inclusion unlikely.
Familial discrimination much? I have more than three kids and can afford an expensive private for all of them just fine. Don’t judge a family based on the number of kids.
Anonymous wrote:Is the subtext here that she can afford it and you can’t because she has one kid and you have three?
Regardless there is a lot of truth in what she says, and buying in a “good” district shouldn’t prevent you from thinking critically about your children’s school experience. My sense is that no one is blaming disabled children. Rather it’s the macroeconomics that put so many already stressed children in beforecare and aftercare—and staffing ratios that make harmonious inclusion unlikely.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m a rich white lady with a profoundly disabled kid. While your SIL sounds like a jerk in how she said it, much of what she said is true. IDEA has never been fully funded. Schools don’t have the money to truly support kids with disabilities. And behavioral issues are particularly tough when the kid actually has the academic ability to perform in a mainstream class (this is where least restrictive environment gets tricky).
And people who preach inclusion are often focused on some ABC Family Movie of the Week version of disabilities they watched in the 80s. My 14 year old wears diapers, has no functional communication, and drools onto her bib all day. She is a baby cognitively. No, I don’t want her pushed into a mainstream environment in any way, shape or form. And, I actually do support inclusion for many kids —
But without appropriate funding, we have to realize it is a mess.
It is a tough place for everyone to be. The reality is that even though I’m rich, I will never have enough money to pay for the 24-7 care my daughter needs. She will end up in a Medicaid funded intermediate care facility (assuming republicans don’t fit Medicaid). It is a mess.
I’m confused, you are rich, but you can’t afford 24x7 care for your daughter? Is it because you just don’t want to spend your money on that kind of care because it will no longer allow you to be rich?
Anonymous wrote:Is the subtext here that she can afford it and you can’t because she has one kid and you have three?
Regardless there is a lot of truth in what she says, and buying in a “good” district shouldn’t prevent you from thinking critically about your children’s school experience. My sense is that no one is blaming disabled children. Rather it’s the macroeconomics that put so many already stressed children in beforecare and aftercare—and staffing ratios that make harmonious inclusion unlikely.