Anonymous
08/02/2023 19:18
Subject: The hill you die on in your career
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Don’t quit your job, do what they ask, but under protest. If they fire you for protesting, it’s wrongful termination, and you’ll have standing to sue
Do not listen to this. Firing someone for protesting a job duty is not wrongful termination.
Firing someone for protesting against a piece of legislation, is, if the state is the employer.
Protesting is different from refusing to carry out your duties, even when the duties are things that the Stasi would approve of
And there are lots of ways to punish someone other than firing them. You've obviously never been made miserable in a workplace - and been encouraged to leave, based on terrible treatment - if you don't know that.
Which is why I said to do the job but under protest.
And if they punish her in retaliation for exercising her 1A rights it’s a slam dunk hostile work environment suit.
This is not a thing. I’m opposed to book bans, but you are giving bad advice.
Anonymous
08/02/2023 19:14
Subject: The hill you die on in your career
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You should do it, and document it. Loudly.
Like, show your first stack of 10. Show yourself reading (time lapse/cute video), show yourself placing them onto shelf.
Show the empty shelves with the 10 books on it (plus multiple copies I assume).
Don’t show ID or your face.
Disagree. Have the courage of your convictions.
Be sure to burn a Bible and an American flag too.
Burn? What kind of sick person are you?
Ignore, it’s a RWNJ troll. Their twisted outlook tells them that being against banning books is EXACTLY THE SAME THING as burning Bibles and American flags. Because obviously, if you’re not willing to join the jackbooted book-banners, you hate God and America.
Anonymous
08/02/2023 19:04
Subject: The hill you die on in your career
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Don’t quit your job, do what they ask, but under protest. If they fire you for protesting, it’s wrongful termination, and you’ll have standing to sue
Do not listen to this. Firing someone for protesting a job duty is not wrongful termination.
Firing someone for protesting against a piece of legislation, is, if the state is the employer.
Protesting is different from refusing to carry out your duties, even when the duties are things that the Stasi would approve of
And there are lots of ways to punish someone other than firing them. You've obviously never been made miserable in a workplace - and been encouraged to leave, based on terrible treatment - if you don't know that.
Which is why I said to do the job but under protest.
And if they punish her in retaliation for exercising her 1A rights it’s a slam dunk hostile work environment suit.
Anonymous
08/02/2023 18:40
Subject: The hill you die on in your career
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Don’t quit your job, do what they ask, but under protest. If they fire you for protesting, it’s wrongful termination, and you’ll have standing to sue
Do not listen to this. Firing someone for protesting a job duty is not wrongful termination.
Firing someone for protesting against a piece of legislation, is, if the state is the employer.
Protesting is different from refusing to carry out your duties, even when the duties are things that the Stasi would approve of
And there are lots of ways to punish someone other than firing them. You've obviously never been made miserable in a workplace - and been encouraged to leave, based on terrible treatment - if you don't know that.
Which is why I said to do the job but under protest.
Anonymous
08/02/2023 17:43
Subject: The hill you die on in your career
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You should do it, and document it. Loudly.
Like, show your first stack of 10. Show yourself reading (time lapse/cute video), show yourself placing them onto shelf.
Show the empty shelves with the 10 books on it (plus multiple copies I assume).
Don’t show ID or your face.
Disagree. Have the courage of your convictions.
Be sure to burn a Bible and an American flag too.
Burn? What kind of sick person are you?
Anonymous
08/02/2023 16:37
Subject: The hill you die on in your career
You should quit!
Anonymous
08/02/2023 16:36
Subject: The hill you die on in your career
Why don’t you be proactive and start a blog apart from the school you work in highlighting said books, so if they are interested they can come find them. I mean it’s not kids don’t hav access to the internet
Anonymous
08/02/2023 14:50
Subject: The hill you die on in your career
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Don’t quit your job, do what they ask, but under protest. If they fire you for protesting, it’s wrongful termination, and you’ll have standing to sue
Do not listen to this. Firing someone for protesting a job duty is not wrongful termination.
Firing someone for protesting against a piece of legislation, is, if the state is the employer.
Protesting is different from refusing to carry out your duties, even when the duties are things that the Stasi would approve of
And there are lots of ways to punish someone other than firing them. You've obviously never been made miserable in a workplace - and been encouraged to leave, based on terrible treatment - if you don't know that.
Anonymous
08/02/2023 14:32
Subject: The hill you die on in your career
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Don’t quit your job, do what they ask, but under protest. If they fire you for protesting, it’s wrongful termination, and you’ll have standing to sue
Do not listen to this. Firing someone for protesting a job duty is not wrongful termination.
Firing someone for protesting against a piece of legislation, is, if the state is the employer.
Anonymous
08/02/2023 12:20
Subject: The hill you die on in your career
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Are you a librarian? If so, join the many other librarians faced with this and publicize the hell out of it; start your own independent non-school library where anyone can read the 11,000 books. You don’t have to read any of them, that’s not the point. Librarians are under attack and yes you should at least fight on this hill.
Reading is fundamental. She isn’t removing 11,000 books from her library. Her library CONSISTS of 11,000 books, which she needs to go through to cull certain titles a legislature has decided shouldn’t be there. It’s most likely material in a school deemed inappropriate for children because it deals with issues like transgenderism or sexually explicit material. I don’t agree with it but no one has banned 11,000 books.
Or it could be super religious propoganda books that the local libs want removed. This could go either way as Library serves the local residents.
Maybe OP can connect to a diff library in the district to swap books unwanted by their locals?
Uh, no, it really couldn’t. “Local libs” are not trying to prevent people from reading religious books. They may trying to prevent people from being forced to partake in religious activities, like prayer, but to voluntarily check out books? Nope.
Authoritarianism is a conservative value, not a liberal one.
Exactly. Liberals/Democrats are in favor of preserving rights for others. Conservatives/Republicans are all about restricting peoples rights. Which is kind of ironic, considering they are the ones with the don't tread on me plates. Yes I know that's libertarian, but libertarians seem to Skew conservative.
The person advocating for such policies may not be an actual lib/republican, it just means they may have monetary benefits.
Lib/republicans may yell loud but most are just keyboard warriors.
Anonymous
08/02/2023 11:59
Subject: The hill you die on in your career
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Are you a librarian? If so, join the many other librarians faced with this and publicize the hell out of it; start your own independent non-school library where anyone can read the 11,000 books. You don’t have to read any of them, that’s not the point. Librarians are under attack and yes you should at least fight on this hill.
Reading is fundamental. She isn’t removing 11,000 books from her library. Her library CONSISTS of 11,000 books, which she needs to go through to cull certain titles a legislature has decided shouldn’t be there. It’s most likely material in a school deemed inappropriate for children because it deals with issues like transgenderism or sexually explicit material. I don’t agree with it but no one has banned 11,000 books.
Or it could be super religious propoganda books that the local libs want removed. This could go either way as Library serves the local residents.
Maybe OP can connect to a diff library in the district to swap books unwanted by their locals?
Uh, no, it really couldn’t. “Local libs” are not trying to prevent people from reading religious books. They may trying to prevent people from being forced to partake in religious activities, like prayer, but to voluntarily check out books? Nope.
Authoritarianism is a conservative value, not a liberal one.
Exactly. Liberals/Democrats are in favor of preserving rights for others. Conservatives/Republicans are all about restricting peoples rights. Which is kind of ironic, considering they are the ones with the don't tread on me plates. Yes I know that's libertarian, but libertarians seem to Skew conservative.
Yes. If the anti-vax people actually cared about bodily autonomy, they’d be pro-choice. If the anti-“CRT” folks actually cared about intellectual freedom, they wouldn’t be banning books left and right.
It’s a desire for control poorly concealed under a thin veneer of freedumb.
Anonymous
08/02/2023 11:54
Subject: The hill you die on in your career
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Are you a librarian? If so, join the many other librarians faced with this and publicize the hell out of it; start your own independent non-school library where anyone can read the 11,000 books. You don’t have to read any of them, that’s not the point. Librarians are under attack and yes you should at least fight on this hill.
Reading is fundamental. She isn’t removing 11,000 books from her library. Her library CONSISTS of 11,000 books, which she needs to go through to cull certain titles a legislature has decided shouldn’t be there. It’s most likely material in a school deemed inappropriate for children because it deals with issues like transgenderism or sexually explicit material. I don’t agree with it but no one has banned 11,000 books.
Or it could be super religious propoganda books that the local libs want removed. This could go either way as Library serves the local residents.
Maybe OP can connect to a diff library in the district to swap books unwanted by their locals?
Uh, no, it really couldn’t. “Local libs” are not trying to prevent people from reading religious books. They may trying to prevent people from being forced to partake in religious activities, like prayer, but to voluntarily check out books? Nope.
Authoritarianism is a conservative value, not a liberal one.
Exactly. Liberals/Democrats are in favor of preserving rights for others. Conservatives/Republicans are all about restricting peoples rights. Which is kind of ironic, considering they are the ones with the don't tread on me plates. Yes I know that's libertarian, but libertarians seem to Skew conservative.
Anonymous
08/02/2023 11:50
Subject: The hill you die on in your career
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Don’t quit your job, do what they ask, but under protest. If they fire you for protesting, it’s wrongful termination, and you’ll have standing to sue
Do not listen to this. Firing someone for protesting a job duty is not wrongful termination.
It's easy for you to say. Don't quit OP. Don't be stupid.
Anonymous
08/02/2023 11:48
Subject: The hill you die on in your career
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Are you a librarian? If so, join the many other librarians faced with this and publicize the hell out of it; start your own independent non-school library where anyone can read the 11,000 books. You don’t have to read any of them, that’s not the point. Librarians are under attack and yes you should at least fight on this hill.
Reading is fundamental. She isn’t removing 11,000 books from her library. Her library CONSISTS of 11,000 books, which she needs to go through to cull certain titles a legislature has decided shouldn’t be there. It’s most likely material in a school deemed inappropriate for children because it deals with issues like transgenderism or sexually explicit material. I don’t agree with it but no one has banned 11,000 books.
Or it could be super religious propoganda books that the local libs want removed. This could go either way as Library serves the local residents.
Maybe OP can connect to a diff library in the district to swap books unwanted by their locals?
Uh, no, it really couldn’t. “Local libs” are not trying to prevent people from reading religious books. They may trying to prevent people from being forced to partake in religious activities, like prayer, but to voluntarily check out books? Nope.
Authoritarianism is a conservative value, not a liberal one.
Anonymous
08/02/2023 08:49
Subject: Re:The hill you die on in your career
Anonymous wrote:Hi - fellow librarian here. Since challenges to books in library collections is becoming a more common occurrence, there are a lot of resources you can draw from to continue to support your students. A quick google search turned up:
- In mid-2022, the Brooklyn Public Library launched Books UnBanned, a teen-led initiative catering to young readers across the country, regardless of state. The program allows young people across America to register for a free digital library card and access a whole bunch of banned and challenged books.
- more access - https://www.jacksonville.com/story/news/state/2023/07/21/banned-books-list-app-florida-download-challenged-library-books/70443947007/
- Open access versions of commonly banned classics: https://libguides.com.edu/c.php?g=649165&p=4554007
- I'm not sure where you, so this resource may not work but there may be other that serve your area: https://www.inpurposeea.com/banned-book-program
I think you could both comply with the reprehensible mandate (thus saving your job) and stand by your values by removing the books but publicizing both the censorship and how students can find alternative, free access to the titles
Who bans Jack London???? Ulysses??? Inappropriate for 3rd graders, yeah, but banned from library?