Anonymous
Post 08/03/2023 16:29     Subject: Teachers: Your e-mail signature
Anonymous wrote:I am a dc gov employee not a teacher though. and we are required to have out name, agency, title, AND preferred pronouns plus a link to a page that explains why pronouns matter. its so silly.


How does that work if listing pronouns outs a person who is not ready?
Anonymous
Post 08/03/2023 14:04     Subject: Teachers: Your e-mail signature
I am a dc gov employee not a teacher though. and we are required to have out name, agency, title, AND preferred pronouns plus a link to a page that explains why pronouns matter. its so silly.
Anonymous
Post 08/03/2023 10:41     Subject: Teachers: Your e-mail signature
Anonymous wrote:Tangent: when we went on college tours last summer, a lot of the schools had a sentence about how their campus on built on X tribe's land. The best guides incorporated it in a very respectful and sincere way. Some threw it out robotically, which completely misses the point.

Anyway. No pronouns here. I've got a recognizably feminine name. Just first name, last name, title and contact info.


There is no point. Was it just the last tribe to have it before the white man took it? Or should we start listing all the tribes that had it at one point? It's all just pointless virtue signaling. In most things I'm pretty liberal, but some of this is just asinine and for show.
Anonymous
Post 08/03/2023 10:39     Subject: Teachers: Your e-mail signature
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Anonymous wrote:I’m in local government and our signature block has to follow a set standard. No funky fonts or colors or personal or meaningful quotes. Some have put in pronouns - not required.

Larla P. Larlington
Program Manager
Widget Distribution Division
Municipal Park Drive, Suite 500

Then the whole privacy statement blah blah if you’ve received this email in error blah blah blah


+1 Keep it normal. Everyone trying to make their mark with cringey personal flair is just embarrassing themselves. People see a sig longer than the actual email and think you are unprofessional and not a person to go to for answers.


+2 Not a teacher, my email signature is company logo, name, pronouns (unnecessary imo but required by my company), title, phone, email. Why in the world would you clutter it up with unnecessary crap.


What industry do you work in that your company requires this? I work in defense, and I seriously doubt they will ever require it--even though my company has won multiple awards for being a LGBTQIA friendly workplace (and my former boss is trans woman, one of two I worked with there).
Anonymous
Post 08/03/2023 10:11     Subject: Teachers: Your e-mail signature
Every piece of land on the planet was conquered at some point, sometimes multiple times. I refuse to play a guilt game with the “Native” Americans.
Anonymous
Post 08/03/2023 00:41     Subject: Teachers: Your e-mail signature
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:In MCPS we have been told to not use any inspirational quotes or slogans as they can confuse the parents. We are only allowed to use a school wide one.

I personally just use my name, school, and position. Maybe I’ll add pronouns this year, but doubt it. What’s a land acknowledgement?


Guessing this is an acknowledgment that we stole Native American lands. Idea came from Australia. Libs picked it up here to virtue signal - doesn’t help anyone in the real world.


It's funny to think Australians invented this asinine ritual because the way they talk about aborigines is far worse than I've ever heard Americans talk about native people here. Non-PC Australians actually debate whether they are the same species as us.
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2023 21:20     Subject: Teachers: Your e-mail signature
Anonymous wrote:In MCPS we have been told to not use any inspirational quotes or slogans as they can confuse the parents. We are only allowed to use a school wide one.

I personally just use my name, school, and position. Maybe I’ll add pronouns this year, but doubt it. What’s a land acknowledgement?


Guessing this is an acknowledgment that we stole Native American lands. Idea came from Australia. Libs picked it up here to virtue signal - doesn’t help anyone in the real world.
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2023 18:47     Subject: Teachers: Your e-mail signature
Anonymous wrote:Dr. Chad Johnson
DEI Leader and Head CRT indoctrinator
He/Him
Loudoun County Public Schools
"The white man was created a devil, to bring chaos upon this Earth" -- Malcom X.


LOL
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2023 16:47     Subject: Re:Teachers: Your e-mail signature
Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain why you need to add both the she and her? Is there ever a she/him? Seems redundant


I know some people who do this, but it's rare.
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2023 16:30     Subject: Teachers: Your e-mail signature

Within my institution, it's formally

"[First Name] [Last Name], [Degree]"

or informally in long private discussions

"[First Initial]"

(my contact email is the email address I am using, or can be seen in the directory that comes with the email)

In correspondence with external agents, it's

"[First Name] [Last Name], [Degree]
[Phone Number]"
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2023 16:20     Subject: Teachers: Your e-mail signature
Tangent: when we went on college tours last summer, a lot of the schools had a sentence about how their campus on built on X tribe's land. The best guides incorporated it in a very respectful and sincere way. Some threw it out robotically, which completely misses the point.

Anyway. No pronouns here. I've got a recognizably feminine name. Just first name, last name, title and contact info.
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2023 16:07     Subject: Teachers: Your e-mail signature
Anonymous wrote:Name, title, confidentiality notice, and directions on how to translate this email, because everybody forgets to incorporate those who don’t speak English. Tempted to add land, formally occupied by indigenous tribe, as well as land formerly farmed on by slaves to my signature.


In how many languages do you include translation instructions?
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2023 15:53     Subject: Re:Teachers: Your e-mail signature
Anonymous wrote:Your signature definitely should acknowledge that your school is on stolen land with link to native tribe for more info. Raises awareness


But what about the native tribe that those natives stole it from? The Americas were populated in waves, with new groups overtaking old groups all the time for tens of thousands of years.
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2023 09:17     Subject: Teachers: Your e-mail signature
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Anonymous wrote:Teachers, do you have these in your e-mail signature and why or why not?

Pronouns, degree(s), land acknowledgment, inspirational quote, etc


Land acknowledgment? Wtf? What on earth does that mean?


This has been huge in Canada and Australia for the past few years.


Yup - just got back from Australia. Every time we landed, the FA announced something along the lines of "we recognize we have just landed on XYZ indigenous land and honor the elders past, present, and emerging."
It was interesting, but not sure what the point was... how are they actually honoring indigenous elders? They aren't, of course.
I've heard it at a few conferences in the US in the last few years.
Again, interesting, but unless you are actually going to make some meaningful change or contribution in your life it seems... pointless.


It's required in Canada. Part of Truth and Reconciliation. Making the statement publicly honors them. I guess.


With so many things Canada has gotten to the point where they should just permanently walk bent over.


And yet, Canada does so many things so much better than the United States.
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2023 09:02     Subject: Teachers: Your e-mail signature
Anonymous wrote:I'll admit if I see a pronoun after a name I think you're a vain and not very bright virtue signaling progressive and it'd definitely make me look down at you and very carefully scrutinize any teaching you do with my kids. Because putting pronouns after your name means I can extrapolate so much about you without even meeting you or knowing anything else about you. Thankfully we're at a normal prep school where pronouns don't exit, let alone inspirational quotes.

The funny thing is that we could avoid all the furore around pronouns simply by bringing back honorifics. Your email signature could then be Ms. Sarah Johnson, which is which is much better than "Sarah Johnson, female, she/her/whatever."

The confused would just be "Mx Sarah Johnson" and we can figure out what it means.


You do realize this says a lot more about you than it does whatever teacher you seem to think you have permission to hold in contempt, right? And what it says about you is not good at all?

It's so incredibly weird that what people choose to call themselves upsets you so.