Anonymous
07/27/2023 09:31
Subject: Women who Make Money
I agree. NP here. I credit all of my success to my hard working immigrant parents, who by example, instilled in me a deep rooted love for education, a strong work ethic, desire to provide for my family, and make the world a better place (through seeing giving their meager earnings back home to their family and even the charitable acts they did despite not having much). Also, to succeed in America, you need high IQ or EQ and I feel like that is inherited - so you PP you definitely had a leg up! Give credit where it is due!
Anonymous
07/27/2023 09:05
Subject: Re:Women who Make Money
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Big law partner here. 48yo. Income $1m+. Career tip: get good education, work hard, look for opportunities and use them!
Let me guess: Dad had high powered job.
Love these women that mask their class level by telling the rest of us to ‘work hard’
Law school is what these days? 250,000?
It ain’t about working hard and getting a law degree solely. There are so many nonverbal clues you likely just picked up by osmosis - oh and Dad’s law partner just happened to pick you up for that summer internship…
How about illegal immigrant raised by a single mother, and now a BigLaw partner?
Is that good enough for your stereotypes?
Big Law partner here. Thanks to everyone who defended me. And PP, you almost nailed it.
I really hate to disappoint the presumptuous poster, but my parents are (legal) immigrants. Technically speaking, I am an immigrant myself. So no upper class upbringing here or Big Law connections. I came from nothing. So yeah, working hard occasionally does pay off.
You did not “come from nothing.“ You came from hard-working immigrant parents. They are the ones who came from nothing.
NP, but seriously what does the phrase even mean then? Everyone comes from “something.” Your genes/environment made you more inclined to work harder, be intelligent enough, etc to get to where you are.
It seemed that PP’s point was she did have a big law dad or family money to help her achieve partner status behind the scenes; but all of us are shaped in some way by our families, including those who (in your view) actually “come from nothing.”
If the poster had said “I come from an immigrant family that did not have a lot of money,“ that would be one thing. But to refer to her hard-working, immigrant parents as “nothing” is a real insult and slap in the face to them. This poster had two parents with enough drive to move to another country. They obviously instilled their work ethic in her. She wasn’t disadvantaged in the slightest. In the most important of ways - parenting - she actually had an edge.
Anonymous
07/27/2023 09:00
Subject: Re:Women who Make Money
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Big law partner here. 48yo. Income $1m+. Career tip: get good education, work hard, look for opportunities and use them!
Let me guess: Dad had high powered job.
Love these women that mask their class level by telling the rest of us to ‘work hard’
Law school is what these days? 250,000?
It ain’t about working hard and getting a law degree solely. There are so many nonverbal clues you likely just picked up by osmosis - oh and Dad’s law partner just happened to pick you up for that summer internship…
How about illegal immigrant raised by a single mother, and now a BigLaw partner?
Is that good enough for your stereotypes?
Big Law partner here. Thanks to everyone who defended me. And PP, you almost nailed it.
I really hate to disappoint the presumptuous poster, but my parents are (legal) immigrants. Technically speaking, I am an immigrant myself. So no upper class upbringing here or Big Law connections. I came from nothing. So yeah, working hard occasionally does pay off.
You did not “come from nothing.“ You came from hard-working immigrant parents. They are the ones who came from nothing.
NP, but seriously what does the phrase even mean then? Everyone comes from “something.” Your genes/environment made you more inclined to work harder, be intelligent enough, etc to get to where you are.
It seemed that PP’s point was she did have a big law dad or family money to help her achieve partner status behind the scenes; but all of us are shaped in some way by our families, including those who (in your view) actually “come from nothing.”
Anonymous
07/27/2023 08:52
Subject: Re:Women who Make Money
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Big law partner here. 48yo. Income $1m+. Career tip: get good education, work hard, look for opportunities and use them!
Let me guess: Dad had high powered job.
Love these women that mask their class level by telling the rest of us to ‘work hard’
Law school is what these days? 250,000?
It ain’t about working hard and getting a law degree solely. There are so many nonverbal clues you likely just picked up by osmosis - oh and Dad’s law partner just happened to pick you up for that summer internship…
How about illegal immigrant raised by a single mother, and now a BigLaw partner?
Is that good enough for your stereotypes?
Big Law partner here. Thanks to everyone who defended me. And PP, you almost nailed it.
I really hate to disappoint the presumptuous poster, but my parents are (legal) immigrants. Technically speaking, I am an immigrant myself. So no upper class upbringing here or Big Law connections. I came from nothing. So yeah, working hard occasionally does pay off.
You did not “come from nothing.“ You came from hard-working immigrant parents. They are the ones who came from nothing.
Anonymous
07/27/2023 08:50
Subject: Re:Women who Make Money
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Big law partner here. 48yo. Income $1m+. Career tip: get good education, work hard, look for opportunities and use them!
Are you married? Children? Household or family help around the house?
How many hrs do you work a week?
Thanks
All good questions. I am married and have two children, although both happened later in life. We have a housekeeper who comes once a week, a gardener, and an au pair. I do work a lot, but the work fluctuates. For example, I was in trial earlier this year and did not see my family for weeks. But I also traveled with my kids for 3 weeks this summer. Last year was a killer and I averaged 55h/week. This year is quieter and I've barely worked since my trial. I expect to be right around 45h/w this year.
Yea, not seeing your family for “weeks” is no way to be a parent. Traveling with the kids for “three weeks” doesn’t make up for that. I mean, many many many parents travel for three weeks with their kids without also disappearing for weeks on end.
God this is so pathetic. You’d never say this to military parents right? What doctors who do doctors w out borders? They’re just terrible parents inherently?
Or what abt migrant workers who leave their families for months or even years? Just awful?
Just get over yourself, you don’t know everything and you selectively judge people based on your uninformed views.
Actually I did mention military families. You missed that part.
Doctors Without Borders is a volunteer organization. No one does that full time.
Comparing a millionaire who leaves her family for “weeks on end” to pursue the almighty dollar to migrants who are desperate to support their families and have no other option is insulting to migrants.
Anonymous
07/27/2023 08:47
Subject: Re:Women who Make Money
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Big law partner here. 48yo. Income $1m+. Career tip: get good education, work hard, look for opportunities and use them!
Are you married? Children? Household or family help around the house?
How many hrs do you work a week?
Thanks
All good questions. I am married and have two children, although both happened later in life. We have a housekeeper who comes once a week, a gardener, and an au pair. I do work a lot, but the work fluctuates. For example, I was in trial earlier this year and did not see my family for weeks. But I also traveled with my kids for 3 weeks this summer. Last year was a killer and I averaged 55h/week. This year is quieter and I've barely worked since my trial. I expect to be right around 45h/w this year.
Yea, not seeing your family for “weeks” is no way to be a parent. Traveling with the kids for “three weeks” doesn’t make up for that. I mean, many many many parents travel for three weeks with their kids without also disappearing for weeks on end.
Go back to your cave, troll.
It does not make me a troll to respond to a poster who says that part of the reason she was able to get to where she is now is that she does not see her family for “weeks at a time.” Because for most people that’s just not the way they want to go.
Anonymous
07/27/2023 08:45
Subject: Re:Women who Make Money
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Big law partner here. 48yo. Income $1m+. Career tip: get good education, work hard, look for opportunities and use them!
Let me guess: Dad had high powered job.
Love these women that mask their class level by telling the rest of us to ‘work hard’
Law school is what these days? 250,000?
It ain’t about working hard and getting a law degree solely. There are so many nonverbal clues you likely just picked up by osmosis - oh and Dad’s law partner just happened to pick you up for that summer internship…
How about illegal immigrant raised by a single mother, and now a BigLaw partner?
Is that good enough for your stereotypes?
Bullshit. Nobody in that position, especially one educated enough to end up in Biglaw, would ever in a million years refer to themselves as an “illegal immigrant.” Not to mention that undocumented immigrants can’t get jobs in Biglaw anyway. Firms are not allowed to hire lawyers without proof of legal status.
Remember, there are lots of lawyers on this thread.
Anonymous
07/27/2023 08:39
Subject: Women who Make Money
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Interested in hearing more - where to begin?
Anonymous wrote:I don't make my money by going to work. I make it in the market. I take extreme risks, but only because I can afford to lose some.
I worked very low income service job before that for ca 25 years.
Since you are young, I see why you want to make money by going to work. Become a doctor.
Interested in hearing more - where to begin?
Anonymous
07/27/2023 08:15
Subject: Re:Women who Make Money
Sub specialty surgeon 1M+
Advice- This was a long hard way to make money… first real job at 32, six figure med school debt. Worth it now but I wouldn’t have said that 10 years ago. That said job is very fulfilling and I would do it again.
Advice- This was a long hard way to make money… first real job at 32, six figure med school debt. Worth it now but I wouldn’t have said that 10 years ago. That said job is very fulfilling and I would do it again.
Anonymous
07/27/2023 05:40
Subject: Re:Women who Make Money
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Big law partner here. 48yo. Income $1m+. Career tip: get good education, work hard, look for opportunities and use them!
Let me guess: Dad had high powered job.
Love these women that mask their class level by telling the rest of us to ‘work hard’
Law school is what these days? 250,000?
It ain’t about working hard and getting a law degree solely. There are so many nonverbal clues you likely just picked up by osmosis - oh and Dad’s law partner just happened to pick you up for that summer internship…
How about illegal immigrant raised by a single mother, and now a BigLaw partner?
Is that good enough for your stereotypes?
Big Law partner here. Thanks to everyone who defended me. And PP, you almost nailed it.
I really hate to disappoint the presumptuous poster, but my parents are (legal) immigrants. Technically speaking, I am an immigrant myself. So no upper class upbringing here or Big Law connections. I came from nothing. So yeah, working hard occasionally does pay off.
Anonymous
07/27/2023 00:12
Subject: Re:Women who Make Money
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Big law partner here. 48yo. Income $1m+. Career tip: get good education, work hard, look for opportunities and use them!
Are you married? Children? Household or family help around the house?
How many hrs do you work a week?
Thanks
All good questions. I am married and have two children, although both happened later in life. We have a housekeeper who comes once a week, a gardener, and an au pair. I do work a lot, but the work fluctuates. For example, I was in trial earlier this year and did not see my family for weeks. But I also traveled with my kids for 3 weeks this summer. Last year was a killer and I averaged 55h/week. This year is quieter and I've barely worked since my trial. I expect to be right around 45h/w this year.
Yea, not seeing your family for “weeks” is no way to be a parent. Traveling with the kids for “three weeks” doesn’t make up for that. I mean, many many many parents travel for three weeks with their kids without also disappearing for weeks on end.
God this is so pathetic. You’d never say this to military parents right? What doctors who do doctors w out borders? They’re just terrible parents inherently?
Or what abt migrant workers who leave their families for months or even years? Just awful?
Just get over yourself, you don’t know everything and you selectively judge people based on your uninformed views.
Anonymous
07/26/2023 22:36
Subject: Re:Women who Make Money
Deputy GC at a company in niche industry. Oversee 4 attorneys in 20 person legal dept and report to GC. $500k and work a solid 35-40 hrs a week but no weekends or late nights. 41 YO. My advice to lawyers is to do corporate work in an industry that has in-house departments. Firm life is soul sucking and not worth $$.
Anonymous
07/26/2023 22:32
Subject: Re:Women who Make Money
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Big law partner here. 48yo. Income $1m+. Career tip: get good education, work hard, look for opportunities and use them!
Are you married? Children? Household or family help around the house?
How many hrs do you work a week?
Thanks
All good questions. I am married and have two children, although both happened later in life. We have a housekeeper who comes once a week, a gardener, and an au pair. I do work a lot, but the work fluctuates. For example, I was in trial earlier this year and did not see my family for weeks. But I also traveled with my kids for 3 weeks this summer. Last year was a killer and I averaged 55h/week. This year is quieter and I've barely worked since my trial. I expect to be right around 45h/w this year.
Yea, not seeing your family for “weeks” is no way to be a parent. Traveling with the kids for “three weeks” doesn’t make up for that. I mean, many many many parents travel for three weeks with their kids without also disappearing for weeks on end.
Go back to your cave, troll.
Anonymous
07/26/2023 22:29
Subject: Re:Women who Make Money
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am 45 an in-house counsel. Base pay in the mid-300k range and bonuses that bring me to anywhere between 500k-600k annually.
If your goal is to be self-sufficient and make money, my advice is to keep working when you have kids and ignore the mommy guilt - you can raise wonderful kids as a working mom. Go part time if you need to for awhile (I did). And when the time is right, jump into new opportunities. Had I never moved in-house, I wouldn’t make as much as I do now. Trust your gut - you know when people are in your corner and you know not to trust sketchy people who are competitive and want to bring you down. Also, do the work - the simple act of working hard and doing good work, meeting deadlines, communicating well with your coworkers are rarer than you think. I am not even close to the smartest person but I’ve managed to navigate a law firm and then being in house by being tough, wily, and strategic. Things got so much better for me as I got older and now I work for fun and money, not to climb a ladder or pay for basic necessities.
So you got lucky. You forgot that part. This post sounds like it was written by a man "I am awesome", but in reality luck plays a big part.
You sound like someone who is very "unlucky" and never noticed the common thread.
Anonymous
07/26/2023 22:28
Subject: Re:Women who Make Money
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Big law partner here. 48yo. Income $1m+. Career tip: get good education, work hard, look for opportunities and use them!
Let me guess: Dad had high powered job.
Love these women that mask their class level by telling the rest of us to ‘work hard’
Law school is what these days? 250,000?
It ain’t about working hard and getting a law degree solely. There are so many nonverbal clues you likely just picked up by osmosis - oh and Dad’s law partner just happened to pick you up for that summer internship…
How about illegal immigrant raised by a single mother, and now a BigLaw partner?
Is that good enough for your stereotypes?