Anonymous
Post 07/16/2023 22:13     Subject: Re:Christian conservative/gay neighboring business owners fiasco in The Plains, VA

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
The Plains is rural. It sure ain't urban or suburban or exurban. It's rural. There is no public transit out there. Only 250 people in The Plains.


The Plains is along a major interstate highway and 35 minutes from an international airport. So funny. To the Ivy League post reporters any small town is “rural.” OMG there is no public transit, I can hear the banjos!


Why are you arguing about it being rural? It's near (not on) I-66, it's near Dulles, AND it's rural. The Ag Reserve in Montgomery County is also rural. What difference does it make to the story?


It’s closer to Dulles than DC is. The headline specifically used the word “rural” as a dog whistle to try and establish a narrative that is not supported by the facts. They do this frequently.


Alternatively, the headline used the word "rural" because it's rural. What difference does it make to the story?
Anonymous
Post 07/16/2023 22:06     Subject: Christian conservative/gay neighboring business owners fiasco in The Plains, VA

Robert Duvall owns the restaurant across the street
Anonymous
Post 07/16/2023 22:06     Subject: Christian conservative/gay neighboring business owners fiasco in The Plains, VA

The Plains is near Middleburg.
Anonymous
Post 07/16/2023 21:53     Subject: Re:Christian conservative/gay neighboring business owners fiasco in The Plains, VA

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
The Plains is rural. It sure ain't urban or suburban or exurban. It's rural. There is no public transit out there. Only 250 people in The Plains.


The Plains is along a major interstate highway and 35 minutes from an international airport. So funny. To the Ivy League post reporters any small town is “rural.” OMG there is no public transit, I can hear the banjos!


Why are you arguing about it being rural? It's near (not on) I-66, it's near Dulles, AND it's rural. The Ag Reserve in Montgomery County is also rural. What difference does it make to the story?


It’s closer to Dulles than DC is. The headline specifically used the word “rural” as a dog whistle to try and establish a narrative that is not supported by the facts. They do this frequently.
Anonymous
Post 07/16/2023 21:41     Subject: Re:Christian conservative/gay neighboring business owners fiasco in The Plains, VA

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
The Plains is rural. It sure ain't urban or suburban or exurban. It's rural. There is no public transit out there. Only 250 people in The Plains.


The Plains is along a major interstate highway and 35 minutes from an international airport. So funny. To the Ivy League post reporters any small town is “rural.” OMG there is no public transit, I can hear the banjos!


Why are you arguing about it being rural? It's near (not on) I-66, it's near Dulles, AND it's rural. The Ag Reserve in Montgomery County is also rural. What difference does it make to the story?
Anonymous
Post 07/16/2023 21:30     Subject: Re:Christian conservative/gay neighboring business owners fiasco in The Plains, VA

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
The Plains is rural. It sure ain't urban or suburban or exurban. It's rural. There is no public transit out there. Only 250 people in The Plains.


The Plains is along a major interstate highway and 35 minutes from an international airport. So funny. To the Ivy League post reporters any small town is “rural.” OMG there is no public transit, I can hear the banjos!


Oh FFS, the reporter went to the U of Nebraska at Kearney. Other than that, though, you’re totally accurate.
Anonymous
Post 07/16/2023 21:25     Subject: Christian conservative/gay neighboring business owners fiasco in The Plains, VA

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:After reading the headline I was fairly shocked that the guy had absolutely no problem walking past the pride flag for years and dropping $40k at the restaurant. His beef was actually over parking and deliveries. But you needed to wade through paragraphs of glowing information about the restaurant owners to get there. I think the author should stick to wring top ten burger restaurant lists.


No you did not read thoroughly. His beef was that the owners of the restaurant barred him from the restaurant when he was asked multiple times to wear a mask when not eating and the guy refused. After multiple complaints from staff and other restaurant guests, the restaurant owner issued a restraining order preventing the guy from the restaurant.


Fine. Then why turn it into a front page feature length anti-LGBTQ story?
Anonymous
Post 07/16/2023 21:20     Subject: Re:Christian conservative/gay neighboring business owners fiasco in The Plains, VA

Anonymous wrote:
The Plains is rural. It sure ain't urban or suburban or exurban. It's rural. There is no public transit out there. Only 250 people in The Plains.


The Plains is along a major interstate highway and 35 minutes from an international airport. So funny. To the Ivy League post reporters any small town is “rural.” OMG there is no public transit, I can hear the banjos!
Anonymous
Post 07/16/2023 21:13     Subject: Christian conservative/gay neighboring business owners fiasco in The Plains, VA

It's rural. Why is the PP even arguing about that? To what end?
Anonymous
Post 07/16/2023 21:01     Subject: Re:Christian conservative/gay neighboring business owners fiasco in The Plains, VA


The Plains is rural. It sure ain't urban or suburban or exurban. It's rural. There is no public transit out there. Only 250 people in The Plains.
Anonymous
Post 07/16/2023 18:10     Subject: Christian conservative/gay neighboring business owners fiasco in The Plains, VA

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The guy is no doubt a jerk. But is this now what passes as a front page story in the Washington Post on a Sunday? It’s like the Post had some insatiable appetite for culture war stories that they try to pump up anything that has the slightest whiff of racism or LGBTQ to it. We’ve officially reached the point where demand for bigotry exceeds the supply of stories.


Yes, and for good reason. The dispute is impairing the town government's ability to function. If you don't think it's newsworthy, there's an easy solution: don't read the article.


Maybe. But that’s not the story the Post published. The story they published is “rural bigot targets gay restaurant for no reason” type story. When in reality the jerk frequented the restaurant himself on many occasions with apparently no one to putting his money in the gay couples pocket. You’ve got to get about ten paragraphs in before it becomes the “impairing the town government” that you claim it is. This headline is highly inflammatory and irresponsible and bears no relation to the story itself. Is there any doubt that if a country western restaurant shared the same parking lot that the same issue would eventually rise with this hot head? Of course they would. There is a reason the Post’s readership is in free fall and it’s in large part to irresponsible journalism such as this. Seriously, this story on the front page of the Sunday Post.


The fact that the hateful religious fundamentalist family is targeting a gay couple is just a complete and total coincidence! Why does WaPo have to be so inflammatory?!


That’s the story that you and the Post desperately want. But few if any actual facts to support that. The guy hates the gay couple so much that he apparently spent thousands of dollars in the restaurant over several years. Wut? Didn’t the media learn anything from the Jessie Smollett incident.


Have you been to The Plains or the Front Porch? I have a bunch of times. There aren’t many options and The Front Porch is one of the best.

And yes, he hates gays. He used the f word in reference to the owner. I don’t know how you get more direct than that. I don’t think that fact that the spent money at one of the only decent places to eat negates their hatred for the owners or self righteous attitude.


He hates them so much that he’s been there 40+ times. Yeah right. He is the rare ultra conservative home schooler prepper who also just happen to love fine dining. C’mon people. If this was a Chic fil A restaurant he’d still be complaining about the trash and parking. That’s just who he is. The Washington Post needs to do better.


Thank you. Glad to see people pointing this out for the sensational button and agenda pushing story for what it is. The Daily Mail of all places has a much more balanced story. Neither party in this is innocent or angels. It's a classic story of two sets of jerk neighbors who can't get along and escalate it to the point of ridiculousness. Happens all the time. There's enough in this situation where I could imagine this story being about anyone living next to the Front Porch getting annoyed. People of all creeds, races, religions, and sexualities can act like jerks. Except here, it becomes news because this crowd and the Washpost get to turn it into yet another culture war story to get everyone riled up. And seriously, front page? There must not be any real discrimination stories to feed the constant culture of victimization the Washpost has to project.


+1. This story is a major reach, even for the Post. I knew when they chose to use the word “rural” in the headline that we were steamrolling in one direction. I mean, rural? I know two people who live on the Plains and commute daily to DC. Horse country yes, rural not so much. Post needs to pump the brakes every now and then.


Oh come on. That place is rural asf. If you don’t consider a plains rural, what do you consider rural.


The Plains was rural - about 40 years ago!


We have different definitions of rural. It’s rural to me and to many other people.
Anonymous
Post 07/16/2023 18:07     Subject: Christian conservative/gay neighboring business owners fiasco in The Plains, VA

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The guy is no doubt a jerk. But is this now what passes as a front page story in the Washington Post on a Sunday? It’s like the Post had some insatiable appetite for culture war stories that they try to pump up anything that has the slightest whiff of racism or LGBTQ to it. We’ve officially reached the point where demand for bigotry exceeds the supply of stories.


Yes, and for good reason. The dispute is impairing the town government's ability to function. If you don't think it's newsworthy, there's an easy solution: don't read the article.


Maybe. But that’s not the story the Post published. The story they published is “rural bigot targets gay restaurant for no reason” type story. When in reality the jerk frequented the restaurant himself on many occasions with apparently no one to putting his money in the gay couples pocket. You’ve got to get about ten paragraphs in before it becomes the “impairing the town government” that you claim it is. This headline is highly inflammatory and irresponsible and bears no relation to the story itself. Is there any doubt that if a country western restaurant shared the same parking lot that the same issue would eventually rise with this hot head? Of course they would. There is a reason the Post’s readership is in free fall and it’s in large part to irresponsible journalism such as this. Seriously, this story on the front page of the Sunday Post.


The fact that the hateful religious fundamentalist family is targeting a gay couple is just a complete and total coincidence! Why does WaPo have to be so inflammatory?!


That’s the story that you and the Post desperately want. But few if any actual facts to support that. The guy hates the gay couple so much that he apparently spent thousands of dollars in the restaurant over several years. Wut? Didn’t the media learn anything from the Jessie Smollett incident.


Have you been to The Plains or the Front Porch? I have a bunch of times. There aren’t many options and The Front Porch is one of the best.

And yes, he hates gays. He used the f word in reference to the owner. I don’t know how you get more direct than that. I don’t think that fact that the spent money at one of the only decent places to eat negates their hatred for the owners or self righteous attitude.


He hates them so much that he’s been there 40+ times. Yeah right. He is the rare ultra conservative home schooler prepper who also just happen to love fine dining. C’mon people. If this was a Chic fil A restaurant he’d still be complaining about the trash and parking. That’s just who he is. The Washington Post needs to do better.


Thank you. Glad to see people pointing this out for the sensational button and agenda pushing story for what it is. The Daily Mail of all places has a much more balanced story. Neither party in this is innocent or angels. It's a classic story of two sets of jerk neighbors who can't get along and escalate it to the point of ridiculousness. Happens all the time. There's enough in this situation where I could imagine this story being about anyone living next to the Front Porch getting annoyed. People of all creeds, races, religions, and sexualities can act like jerks. Except here, it becomes news because this crowd and the Washpost get to turn it into yet another culture war story to get everyone riled up. And seriously, front page? There must not be any real discrimination stories to feed the constant culture of victimization the Washpost has to project.


+1. This story is a major reach, even for the Post. I knew when they chose to use the word “rural” in the headline that we were steamrolling in one direction. I mean, rural? I know two people who live on the Plains and commute daily to DC. Horse country yes, rural not so much. Post needs to pump the brakes every now and then.


Oh come on. That place is rural asf. If you don’t consider a plains rural, what do you consider rural.


The Plains was rural - about 40 years ago!
Anonymous
Post 07/16/2023 17:09     Subject: Christian conservative/gay neighboring business owners fiasco in The Plains, VA

The gays were there first, with their tasty food. The religious zealots moved in afterwards and don't seem particularly intelligent, as they didn't understand what living next to a restaurant would entail.
Anonymous
Post 07/16/2023 17:05     Subject: Christian conservative/gay neighboring business owners fiasco in The Plains, VA

Anonymous wrote:After reading the headline I was fairly shocked that the guy had absolutely no problem walking past the pride flag for years and dropping $40k at the restaurant. His beef was actually over parking and deliveries. But you needed to wade through paragraphs of glowing information about the restaurant owners to get there. I think the author should stick to wring top ten burger restaurant lists.


Eh, somebody mentioned Chic Fil ‘A upthread, same analogy.
Anonymous
Post 07/16/2023 17:03     Subject: Christian conservative/gay neighboring business owners fiasco in The Plains, VA

Anonymous wrote:After reading the headline I was fairly shocked that the guy had absolutely no problem walking past the pride flag for years and dropping $40k at the restaurant. His beef was actually over parking and deliveries. But you needed to wade through paragraphs of glowing information about the restaurant owners to get there. I think the author should stick to wring top ten burger restaurant lists.


No you did not read thoroughly. His beef was that the owners of the restaurant barred him from the restaurant when he was asked multiple times to wear a mask when not eating and the guy refused. After multiple complaints from staff and other restaurant guests, the restaurant owner issued a restraining order preventing the guy from the restaurant.