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Anonymous wrote:Money and willingness to pay $$ for year round teams and private lessons. Not genetics.

I agree with this, for most of these swimmers it's more about $$$ spent and length/amount of time practiced than genetics. Go to enough swim meets and you gain perspective on this.

To me genetics come into play when someone who doesn't swim much is able to keep up with more seasoned swimmers or when a swimmer is absolutely dominating the competition at every meet.

Agree. DH and his siblings are strong swimmers. They took tons of lessons when they were growing up. None of them have any other standout athletic abilities to say it’s genetic.

That’s not entirely fair either though. Most great swimmers don’t have other standout athletic abilities. I wouldn’t be surprised if Michael Phelps could barely throw a ball or would look incredibly awkward running 100m.

you should follow his IG then.

Phelps was swimming in the Olympics at 15. That was very very very unusual for a male swimmer. He got 5th in 200 fly, which is just bonkers out of this world crazy. But what is even cuckoo for cocopuffs crazier is that a few months later, he broke the world record for the 200 fly. He was still 15 years old. Athletic phenom doesn’t even begin to describe him

I think we're being a little rough on the truly high-end swimmers though. My spouse swam primarily sprint freestyle in college and now regularly places in the 5ks and 10ks she does (and has won a few). She also played soccer in high school and can throw a football well. I agree with the general comment that the best athletes are rarely swimming or rowing or playing lax (outside of Strong Island) but when they do, they are very successful. Like many great runners, some swimmers really lack the coordination and lateral quickness required for many other sports.

Dressel is only a generous 6-3 and it says nothing about lateral movement or speed in the article. He picked the right sport even if he is pretty coordinated.
Who wouldn't love to see LeBron swim a 50 free after a year of training?

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Anonymous wrote:Money and willingness to pay $$ for year round teams and private lessons. Not genetics.

I agree with this, for most of these swimmers it's more about $$$ spent and length/amount of time practiced than genetics. Go to enough swim meets and you gain perspective on this.

To me genetics come into play when someone who doesn't swim much is able to keep up with more seasoned swimmers or when a swimmer is absolutely dominating the competition at every meet.

Agree. DH and his siblings are strong swimmers. They took tons of lessons when they were growing up. None of them have any other standout athletic abilities to say it’s genetic.

That’s not entirely fair either though. Most great swimmers don’t have other standout athletic abilities. I wouldn’t be surprised if Michael Phelps could barely throw a ball or would look incredibly awkward running 100m.

What? I don’t think you know much about swimming.

Caeleb dressel has a 43” vertical jump. The average nba player has a 28” vertical jump.

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/athletics/news/us-swimmer-caeleb-dressel-vertical-leap-nba/11j6llogcmqlz1ahelzfakobgp

Tim Duncan and Kris humphries are former standout swimmers who chose bball over swimming.

I think you are conflating the fact that many kids who are not considered athletic in other sports find their way to swimming. But the top swimmers are definitely athletes.

Kyle Chalmers might take up Aussie football after the next Olympics.

True, Tim Duncan's sister was a pretty good swimmer at Swarthmore. USVI didn't have the type of year-round sports period. Both Duncans had the athleticism to do whatever they wanted at a college level.

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Anonymous wrote:Money and willingness to pay $$ for year round teams and private lessons. Not genetics.

I agree with this, for most of these swimmers it's more about $$$ spent and length/amount of time practiced than genetics. Go to enough swim meets and you gain perspective on this.

To me genetics come into play when someone who doesn't swim much is able to keep up with more seasoned swimmers or when a swimmer is absolutely dominating the competition at every meet.

Agree. DH and his siblings are strong swimmers. They took tons of lessons when they were growing up. None of them have any other standout athletic abilities to say it’s genetic.

That’s not entirely fair either though. Most great swimmers don’t have other standout athletic abilities. I wouldn’t be surprised if Michael Phelps could barely throw a ball or would look incredibly awkward running 100m.

And I’m sure there are baseball players and track and field athletes that wouldn’t be able to make it through a 25 yard Fly 🙄 Are you really trying to argue that one of the most decorated Olympians in history is not a good athlete? Come on. You can stop being bitter that your little Larlo is a good soccer player but can’t make A meets.

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Anonymous wrote:Money and willingness to pay $$ for year round teams and private lessons. Not genetics.

I agree with this, for most of these swimmers it's more about $$$ spent and length/amount of time practiced than genetics. Go to enough swim meets and you gain perspective on this.

To me genetics come into play when someone who doesn't swim much is able to keep up with more seasoned swimmers or when a swimmer is absolutely dominating the competition at every meet.

Agree. DH and his siblings are strong swimmers. They took tons of lessons when they were growing up. None of them have any other standout athletic abilities to say it’s genetic.

That’s not entirely fair either though. Most great swimmers don’t have other standout athletic abilities. I wouldn’t be surprised if Michael Phelps could barely throw a ball or would look incredibly awkward running 100m.

you should follow his IG then.

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Anonymous wrote:Money and willingness to pay $$ for year round teams and private lessons. Not genetics.

I agree with this, for most of these swimmers it's more about $$$ spent and length/amount of time practiced than genetics. Go to enough swim meets and you gain perspective on this.

To me genetics come into play when someone who doesn't swim much is able to keep up with more seasoned swimmers or when a swimmer is absolutely dominating the competition at every meet.

Agree. DH and his siblings are strong swimmers. They took tons of lessons when they were growing up. None of them have any other standout athletic abilities to say it’s genetic.

That’s not entirely fair either though. Most great swimmers don’t have other standout athletic abilities. I wouldn’t be surprised if Michael Phelps could barely throw a ball or would look incredibly awkward running 100m.

What? I don’t think you know much about swimming.

Caeleb dressel has a 43” vertical jump. The average nba player has a 28” vertical jump.

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/athletics/news/us-swimmer-caeleb-dressel-vertical-leap-nba/11j6llogcmqlz1ahelzfakobgp

Tim Duncan and Kris humphries are former standout swimmers who chose bball over swimming.

I think you are conflating the fact that many kids who are not considered athletic in other sports find their way to swimming. But the top swimmers are definitely athletes.

Kyle Chalmers might take up Aussie football after the next Olympics.

Phelps was a star lax player before he gave it up to focus on swimming. The idea that he’s not a great athlete outside swimming is insane.

Lax is not a sport where the good athletes flock to

It is now, and it was in Baltimore when Phelps was growing up. The most athletic boys at DDs high school are the lax and soccer players

Maybe in your DDs prep school but not in the real world dear

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Anonymous wrote:Money and willingness to pay $$ for year round teams and private lessons. Not genetics.

I agree with this, for most of these swimmers it's more about $$$ spent and length/amount of time practiced than genetics. Go to enough swim meets and you gain perspective on this.

To me genetics come into play when someone who doesn't swim much is able to keep up with more seasoned swimmers or when a swimmer is absolutely dominating the competition at every meet.

Agree. DH and his siblings are strong swimmers. They took tons of lessons when they were growing up. None of them have any other standout athletic abilities to say it’s genetic.

That’s not entirely fair either though. Most great swimmers don’t have other standout athletic abilities. I wouldn’t be surprised if Michael Phelps could barely throw a ball or would look incredibly awkward running 100m.

What? I don’t think you know much about swimming.

Caeleb dressel has a 43” vertical jump. The average nba player has a 28” vertical jump.

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/athletics/news/us-swimmer-caeleb-dressel-vertical-leap-nba/11j6llogcmqlz1ahelzfakobgp

Tim Duncan and Kris humphries are former standout swimmers who chose bball over swimming.

I think you are conflating the fact that many kids who are not considered athletic in other sports find their way to swimming. But the top swimmers are definitely athletes.

Kyle Chalmers might take up Aussie football after the next Olympics.

Phelps was a star lax player before he gave it up to focus on swimming. The idea that he’s not a great athlete outside swimming is insane.

Lax is not a sport where the good athletes flock to

Yes, the guy who won 28 Olympic medals is actually a terrible athlete. Let’s go with that.

28?

Yep.

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Anonymous wrote:Money and willingness to pay $$ for year round teams and private lessons. Not genetics.

I agree with this, for most of these swimmers it's more about $$$ spent and length/amount of time practiced than genetics. Go to enough swim meets and you gain perspective on this.

To me genetics come into play when someone who doesn't swim much is able to keep up with more seasoned swimmers or when a swimmer is absolutely dominating the competition at every meet.

Agree. DH and his siblings are strong swimmers. They took tons of lessons when they were growing up. None of them have any other standout athletic abilities to say it’s genetic.

That’s not entirely fair either though. Most great swimmers don’t have other standout athletic abilities. I wouldn’t be surprised if Michael Phelps could barely throw a ball or would look incredibly awkward running 100m.

What? I don’t think you know much about swimming.

Caeleb dressel has a 43” vertical jump. The average nba player has a 28” vertical jump.

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/athletics/news/us-swimmer-caeleb-dressel-vertical-leap-nba/11j6llogcmqlz1ahelzfakobgp

Tim Duncan and Kris humphries are former standout swimmers who chose bball over swimming.

I think you are conflating the fact that many kids who are not considered athletic in other sports find their way to swimming. But the top swimmers are definitely athletes.

Kyle Chalmers might take up Aussie football after the next Olympics.

Phelps was a star lax player before he gave it up to focus on swimming. The idea that he’s not a great athlete outside swimming is insane.

Lax is not a sport where the good athletes flock to

Yes, the guy who won 28 Olympic medals is actually a terrible athlete. Let’s go with that.

28?

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Anonymous wrote:Money and willingness to pay $$ for year round teams and private lessons. Not genetics.

I agree with this, for most of these swimmers it's more about $$$ spent and length/amount of time practiced than genetics. Go to enough swim meets and you gain perspective on this.

To me genetics come into play when someone who doesn't swim much is able to keep up with more seasoned swimmers or when a swimmer is absolutely dominating the competition at every meet.

Agree. DH and his siblings are strong swimmers. They took tons of lessons when they were growing up. None of them have any other standout athletic abilities to say it’s genetic.

That’s not entirely fair either though. Most great swimmers don’t have other standout athletic abilities. I wouldn’t be surprised if Michael Phelps could barely throw a ball or would look incredibly awkward running 100m.

What? I don’t think you know much about swimming.

Caeleb dressel has a 43” vertical jump. The average nba player has a 28” vertical jump.

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/athletics/news/us-swimmer-caeleb-dressel-vertical-leap-nba/11j6llogcmqlz1ahelzfakobgp

Tim Duncan and Kris humphries are former standout swimmers who chose bball over swimming.

I think you are conflating the fact that many kids who are not considered athletic in other sports find their way to swimming. But the top swimmers are definitely athletes.

Kyle Chalmers might take up Aussie football after the next Olympics.

Phelps was a star lax player before he gave it up to focus on swimming. The idea that he’s not a great athlete outside swimming is insane.

Lax is not a sport where the good athletes flock to

It is now, and it was in Baltimore when Phelps was growing up. The most athletic boys at DDs high school are the lax and soccer players

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Anonymous wrote:Money and willingness to pay $$ for year round teams and private lessons. Not genetics.

I agree with this, for most of these swimmers it's more about $$$ spent and length/amount of time practiced than genetics. Go to enough swim meets and you gain perspective on this.

To me genetics come into play when someone who doesn't swim much is able to keep up with more seasoned swimmers or when a swimmer is absolutely dominating the competition at every meet.

Agree. DH and his siblings are strong swimmers. They took tons of lessons when they were growing up. None of them have any other standout athletic abilities to say it’s genetic.

That’s not entirely fair either though. Most great swimmers don’t have other standout athletic abilities. I wouldn’t be surprised if Michael Phelps could barely throw a ball or would look incredibly awkward running 100m.

What? I don’t think you know much about swimming.

Caeleb dressel has a 43” vertical jump. The average nba player has a 28” vertical jump.

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/athletics/news/us-swimmer-caeleb-dressel-vertical-leap-nba/11j6llogcmqlz1ahelzfakobgp

Tim Duncan and Kris humphries are former standout swimmers who chose bball over swimming.

I think you are conflating the fact that many kids who are not considered athletic in other sports find their way to swimming. But the top swimmers are definitely athletes.

Kyle Chalmers might take up Aussie football after the next Olympics.

Phelps was a star lax player before he gave it up to focus on swimming. The idea that he’s not a great athlete outside swimming is insane.

Lax is not a sport where the good athletes flock to

Yes, the guy who won 28 Olympic medals is actually a terrible athlete. Let’s go with that.

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Anonymous wrote:Money and willingness to pay $$ for year round teams and private lessons. Not genetics.

I agree with this, for most of these swimmers it's more about $$$ spent and length/amount of time practiced than genetics. Go to enough swim meets and you gain perspective on this.

To me genetics come into play when someone who doesn't swim much is able to keep up with more seasoned swimmers or when a swimmer is absolutely dominating the competition at every meet.

Agree. DH and his siblings are strong swimmers. They took tons of lessons when they were growing up. None of them have any other standout athletic abilities to say it’s genetic.

That’s not entirely fair either though. Most great swimmers don’t have other standout athletic abilities. I wouldn’t be surprised if Michael Phelps could barely throw a ball or would look incredibly awkward running 100m.

What? I don’t think you know much about swimming.

Caeleb dressel has a 43” vertical jump. The average nba player has a 28” vertical jump.

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/athletics/news/us-swimmer-caeleb-dressel-vertical-leap-nba/11j6llogcmqlz1ahelzfakobgp

Tim Duncan and Kris humphries are former standout swimmers who chose bball over swimming.

I think you are conflating the fact that many kids who are not considered athletic in other sports find their way to swimming. But the top swimmers are definitely athletes.

Kyle Chalmers might take up Aussie football after the next Olympics.

Phelps was a star lax player before he gave it up to focus on swimming. The idea that he’s not a great athlete outside swimming is insane.

Lax is not a sport where the good athletes flock to

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Anonymous wrote:Money and willingness to pay $$ for year round teams and private lessons. Not genetics.

I agree with this, for most of these swimmers it's more about $$$ spent and length/amount of time practiced than genetics. Go to enough swim meets and you gain perspective on this.

To me genetics come into play when someone who doesn't swim much is able to keep up with more seasoned swimmers or when a swimmer is absolutely dominating the competition at every meet.

Agree. DH and his siblings are strong swimmers. They took tons of lessons when they were growing up. None of them have any other standout athletic abilities to say it’s genetic.

That’s not entirely fair either though. Most great swimmers don’t have other standout athletic abilities. I wouldn’t be surprised if Michael Phelps could barely throw a ball or would look incredibly awkward running 100m.

What? I don’t think you know much about swimming.

Caeleb dressel has a 43” vertical jump. The average nba player has a 28” vertical jump.

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/athletics/news/us-swimmer-caeleb-dressel-vertical-leap-nba/11j6llogcmqlz1ahelzfakobgp

Tim Duncan and Kris humphries are former standout swimmers who chose bball over swimming.

I think you are conflating the fact that many kids who are not considered athletic in other sports find their way to swimming. But the top swimmers are definitely athletes.

Kyle Chalmers might take up Aussie football after the next Olympics.

I agree with you.
There are plenty of athletes who are very talented all around athletically. My kids have never been bad at a sport, including all ball sports and running. Their size and shape and body awareness helped them be very good soccer goalies and basketball players. They are probably best at swimming because they love it and chose it over the others eventually and work really hard 6d per week.

I am pretty sure Phelps is a good golfer. Look at all the athletes who do charity golf stuff and are pretty good.

The strong swimmers are year round swimmers but it's also partly genetics. My child is a year round swimmer but on the slower side. They didn't get the genetics but enjoy it so we support it for exercise. They swim 4-5 days a week, 6 during the summer (sometimes twice a day). it's a huge time and money commitment.

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Anonymous wrote:Money and willingness to pay $$ for year round teams and private lessons. Not genetics.

I agree with this, for most of these swimmers it's more about $$$ spent and length/amount of time practiced than genetics. Go to enough swim meets and you gain perspective on this.

To me genetics come into play when someone who doesn't swim much is able to keep up with more seasoned swimmers or when a swimmer is absolutely dominating the competition at every meet.

Agree. DH and his siblings are strong swimmers. They took tons of lessons when they were growing up. None of them have any other standout athletic abilities to say it’s genetic.

That’s not entirely fair either though. Most great swimmers don’t have other standout athletic abilities. I wouldn’t be surprised if Michael Phelps could barely throw a ball or would look incredibly awkward running 100m.

What? I don’t think you know much about swimming.

Caeleb dressel has a 43” vertical jump. The average nba player has a 28” vertical jump.

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/athletics/news/us-swimmer-caeleb-dressel-vertical-leap-nba/11j6llogcmqlz1ahelzfakobgp

Tim Duncan and Kris humphries are former standout swimmers who chose bball over swimming.

I think you are conflating the fact that many kids who are not considered athletic in other sports find their way to swimming. But the top swimmers are definitely athletes.

Kyle Chalmers might take up Aussie football after the next Olympics.

Phelps was a star lax player before he gave it up to focus on swimming. The idea that he’s not a great athlete outside swimming is insane.