Anonymous
07/11/2023 13:50
Subject: 2023: where will you move when your kids leave home?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Rome. DD will go to college in Italy. Will stay in family lake cabin for six weeks every summer. If Trump is re-elected, may send her to high school there and work remotely.
You know Giorgia Meloni is the Italian Prime Minister with huge support and she's very much a firm populist and the Italians, like many countries in Europe, have moved decisively to the right on many issues re immigration etc, which is sort of what Trump's platform was. Not sure how she would be better than Trump, but perhaps you're damaged by the TDS?
PP probably just wants to get away from idiots like you.
An idiot is someone who screams wah wah wah when a politician gets elected and boasts about moving to a country that has a.... get it... a right wing populist prime minister who is called far right in the EU presses.
Anonymous
07/11/2023 12:53
Subject: 2023: where will you move when your kids leave home?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Rome. DD will go to college in Italy. Will stay in family lake cabin for six weeks every summer. If Trump is re-elected, may send her to high school there and work remotely.
You know Giorgia Meloni is the Italian Prime Minister with huge support and she's very much a firm populist and the Italians, like many countries in Europe, have moved decisively to the right on many issues re immigration etc, which is sort of what Trump's platform was. Not sure how she would be better than Trump, but perhaps you're damaged by the TDS?
Came here to say this.
If a person wants to leave if DJT gets re-elected, I get it. Go ahead. If I had more resources, I may do the same.
But choosing Italy really shows a lack of political awareness
Anonymous
07/11/2023 12:52
Subject: 2023: where will you move when your kids leave home?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I dont get people who want to move away from friends and community they spent 18+ years building unless its totally unaffordable. When my kids are grown ill get to garden more, spend more time with the friends i made and enjoy my neighborhood more.
I’ll explain it for you. For many of us DC is a company town and our relationships are mainly due to proximity. We are only spending time with these people because we have a job here and families we met through our kids. Once we no longer have a job or kids at home we won’t have a reason to spend any time with these people. They are perfectly nice but not a reason to stay here. Unfortunately you may have not figured out that a lot of people here are only friends with you during this stage of life because it’s convenient.
Also DC doesn’t really have any natural beauty and there are other parts of the country with better access to beaches, skiing, hiking etc. It sounds like you like to garden, but that is only one activity. The average retiree isn’t interested in visiting museums over and over again and DC isn’t known for its restaurants or shopping. It’s also expensive because of the job market and if you’re not longer working then why live here?
Plenty of retiree - especially dual income couples - have large retirement accounts and plenty of equity in their home if not a fully paid off home. If you had millions of dollars of practically guaranteed income, no mortgage and no kids here, would you really choose to live in Washington, dc? For most people that’s a hard NO.
I'm all for moving somewhere where you feel happier, but people who plan to move to a part of the country where they can do plenty of outdoor activities need to think long and hard about the realities of doing long hiking or other more strenuous activities when they're in their late 60s and into their 70s and 80s. There's only a short window where this is feasible for many before the body starts ageing. You're not retiring with the vigor of a 20-something.
I'll agree the DC area isn't the prettiest in the country. But wherever I go, it better have easy access to first rate health care with a good choice of the best specialists in the country. That is priority #1 even if I am healthy and fit. You just don't know what will happen. #2, proximity to people I already know is another priority.
I suspect "most" people stay put, not move. Because it's just easier to stay put where you have friends and family and, in the case of DC, excellent health care and hospitals.
In my particular case, I'd find living somewhere along the coastline of CT or RI appealing for various reasons but a nice house there isn't going to be that much cheaper, if at all, than in the DMV, and there's no point moving up there if I don't get a nice house within easy reach of the water.
Anonymous
07/11/2023 12:51
Subject: 2023: where will you move when your kids leave home?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I dont get people who want to move away from friends and community they spent 18+ years building unless its totally unaffordable. When my kids are grown ill get to garden more, spend more time with the friends i made and enjoy my neighborhood more.
I know many people who want to leave the DMV area-it can be a cold transient area. Some people get lucky(like yourself) and land in a neighborhood that is warm and wonderful... but I have more friends looking to leave the DMV area than those wanting to stay. The interesting part is they all have beautiful homes but still feel meh about living here. The weather doesn't help-you're far from the beach. I don't get not getting it.
+1
There are so many more interesting places.
Anonymous
07/11/2023 12:47
Subject: 2023: where will you move when your kids leave home?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I dont get people who want to move away from friends and community they spent 18+ years building unless its totally unaffordable. When my kids are grown ill get to garden more, spend more time with the friends i made and enjoy my neighborhood more.
+1 million.
+2 million. And, I'll finally have time to go to all the free museums on uncrowded week days!
I did them all when my kids were young.
Anonymous
07/11/2023 12:47
Subject: 2023: where will you move when your kids leave home?
Anonymous wrote:We're hoping to move to southern Maine. Portland suburbs maybe.
Just a heads up, it will take a LONG time for people there to accept you.
You may find a community of "ex-pats" to socialize with me. But Maine people are stubborn and very skeptical of outsiders
Anonymous
07/11/2023 12:19
Subject: 2023: where will you move when your kids leave home?
Anonymous wrote:I want a water view but not ocean. I'm looking at Annapolis and similar cities pretty nearby. I have a lot of friends here so I don't think I want to leave the area entirely. I just want to get a slightly cheaper home than my current one in north Arlington.
+1
Anonymous
07/11/2023 12:02
Subject: 2023: where will you move when your kids leave home?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I dont get people who want to move away from friends and community they spent 18+ years building unless its totally unaffordable. When my kids are grown ill get to garden more, spend more time with the friends i made and enjoy my neighborhood more.
I’ll explain it for you. For many of us DC is a company town and our relationships are mainly due to proximity. We are only spending time with these people because we have a job here and families we met through our kids. Once we no longer have a job or kids at home we won’t have a reason to spend any time with these people. They are perfectly nice but not a reason to stay here. Unfortunately you may have not figured out that a lot of people here are only friends with you during this stage of life because it’s convenient.
Also DC doesn’t really have any natural beauty and there are other parts of the country with better access to beaches, skiing, hiking etc. It sounds like you like to garden, but that is only one activity. The average retiree isn’t interested in visiting museums over and over again and DC isn’t known for its restaurants or shopping. It’s also expensive because of the job market and if you’re not longer working then why live here?
Plenty of retiree - especially dual income couples - have large retirement accounts and plenty of equity in their home if not a fully paid off home. If you had millions of dollars of practically guaranteed income, no mortgage and no kids here, would you really choose to live in Washington, dc? For most people that’s a hard NO.
I treasure my friendships here, I do. That said, the lack of natural beauty, distance from the ocean and other (natural) bodies of water, summer heat and humidity, and traffic make it easier to leave than it otherwise might be.
The museums are wonderful but we can visit a few times a year and get our fill of those without having to live with the rest of it. (Also, there are museums in lots of places.)
Anonymous
07/11/2023 11:44
Subject: 2023: where will you move when your kids leave home?
Anonymous wrote:I dont get people who want to move away from friends and community they spent 18+ years building unless its totally unaffordable. When my kids are grown ill get to garden more, spend more time with the friends i made and enjoy my neighborhood more.
I’ll explain it for you. For many of us DC is a company town and our relationships are mainly due to proximity. We are only spending time with these people because we have a job here and families we met through our kids. Once we no longer have a job or kids at home we won’t have a reason to spend any time with these people. They are perfectly nice but not a reason to stay here. Unfortunately you may have not figured out that a lot of people here are only friends with you during this stage of life because it’s convenient.
Also DC doesn’t really have any natural beauty and there are other parts of the country with better access to beaches, skiing, hiking etc. It sounds like you like to garden, but that is only one activity. The average retiree isn’t interested in visiting museums over and over again and DC isn’t known for its restaurants or shopping. It’s also expensive because of the job market and if you’re not longer working then why live here?
Plenty of retiree - especially dual income couples - have large retirement accounts and plenty of equity in their home if not a fully paid off home. If you had millions of dollars of practically guaranteed income, no mortgage and no kids here, would you really choose to live in Washington, dc? For most people that’s a hard NO.
Anonymous
07/11/2023 11:28
Subject: 2023: where will you move when your kids leave home?
My kids aren’t even elementary age so these are dreams at this stage. Either boulder, CO where my spouse grew up or somewhere in Massachusetts.
Anonymous
07/11/2023 10:59
Subject: 2023: where will you move when your kids leave home?
We have 2 kids, depends on where they land. I want to make sure that not only do we make it easy for our kids to visit us, but that we make our aging easy on our them. Old people get sick and end up in the hospital/rehab, and I don’t want my kids to be so far away from us that they feel put upon when stuff like that happens if we need their help.
Anonymous
07/11/2023 10:56
Subject: 2023: where will you move when your kids leave home?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I dont get people who want to move away from friends and community they spent 18+ years building unless its totally unaffordable. When my kids are grown ill get to garden more, spend more time with the friends i made and enjoy my neighborhood more.
I know many people who want to leave the DMV area-it can be a cold transient area. Some people get lucky(like yourself) and land in a neighborhood that is warm and wonderful... but I have more friends looking to leave the DMV area than those wanting to stay. The interesting part is they all have beautiful homes but still feel meh about living here. The weather doesn't help-you're far from the beach. I don't get not getting it.
DMV does have a more transient feel than other places I’ve lived in. A lot of people transfer here for jobs and transfer out a few years later. Sometimes it feels like we’re the place you go to build your career so you can go back and compete in the place you want to be.
Anonymous
07/11/2023 10:49
Subject: 2023: where will you move when your kids leave home?
Anonymous wrote:I dont get people who want to move away from friends and community they spent 18+ years building unless its totally unaffordable. When my kids are grown ill get to garden more, spend more time with the friends i made and enjoy my neighborhood more.
Good point but be careful about looking through a "now" lense with picturing what your community in the future will be like. What some don't give enough thought to is that your familiar neighborhoods will feel quite different as the majority of retirees move elsewhere.
Anonymous
07/11/2023 10:37
Subject: 2023: where will you move when your kids leave home?
Anonymous wrote:I dont get people who want to move away from friends and community they spent 18+ years building unless its totally unaffordable. When my kids are grown ill get to garden more, spend more time with the friends i made and enjoy my neighborhood more.
I know many people who want to leave the DMV area-it can be a cold transient area. Some people get lucky(like yourself) and land in a neighborhood that is warm and wonderful... but I have more friends looking to leave the DMV area than those wanting to stay. The interesting part is they all have beautiful homes but still feel meh about living here. The weather doesn't help-you're far from the beach. I don't get not getting it.
Anonymous
07/11/2023 10:31
Subject: 2023: where will you move when your kids leave home?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I dont get people who want to move away from friends and community they spent 18+ years building unless its totally unaffordable. When my kids are grown ill get to garden more, spend more time with the friends i made and enjoy my neighborhood more.
+1 million.
+2 million. And, I'll finally have time to go to all the free museums on uncrowded week days!