Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know where I can find a summary of BOE member Harris’ work to deport Muslims after 9/11?
Do your own research? There's a little search engine called Google.
Yes, because everything on the internets found via google is reliable!
You’re an adult and you don’t know how to vet reliable sources on the internet? Oh dear….
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The decision to remove the opt-out option was made by Dr. McKnight, not the board. A few members of the BOE have voiced their strong support, but there hasn't been a vote or official statement on the issue.
Testimony during public comments around the opt-out option has been going on for months. After every round of public comments, the BOE members remark and they either ignore the negative comments or voice support for dismantling the opt-out option in the name of diversity, equity and inclusion.
If there was a contingent within the BOE who felt differently from what has been expressed, I think they would have expressed it by now.
That's great! I'm so glad they aren't caving to the bigotry.
It’s kind of ironic that you are using bigotry to fight what you also claim is bigotry.
Unfortunately, I’m not shocked by this myopic view. The goal no longer seems to be mutual respect and shared spaces. It seems to be “give me my way and screw you.”
I say this as a fairly moderate person, who is perfectly happy to support the LGBTQA+ community AND religious communities. I’ve quickly realized, however, that there is no room for voices like mine.
The video of the protest was appalling to me. Such rude behaviors from the counter protesters: the glaring music drowning out voices, the middle finger, the rude comments. This is what Montgomery County has become?
Same here. Diversity is OK in MoCo as long as it's not viewpoint diversity. Then you must be shunned for not agreeing with them.
The fact that gay people exist in real life and therefore in some books is not a "viewpoint."
No, but not wanting your kids to be taught about it at a young age is.
Not wanting your kids to be taught about the existence of gravity at a young age is also a viewpoint.
And guess what... they don't teach kids about gravity at a young age because it's hard to understand, just like understanding why some adults think that putting on a dress and make-up changes their sex. So, I think we can all agree to wait until they are a little older to learn about both.
Lol, kids aren’t idiots. They see things, they hear things, and they understand things. Thankfully they are much more tolerant and accepting than people like you.
So you don’t agree with the concept of age appropriate topics?
But everything discussed here was age appropriate.
+100..kids have *gasp* gay parents...they understand this from day 1. Kids who have straight parents see relationship dynamics as well. You're not sitting here crying about them seeing men kiss women. Grow up. I'm so embarrassed for you.
Resorting to insults. Not unexpected.
DP, yes. People will insult you for being ignorant. Obviously it is something you're used to. Maybe read a book for a change. Get off DCUM. If you asked valid questions or brought up valid points, people would be willing to have a discourse with you. But you're fully spewing BS and don't care to learn anything new, so...
Again…
I’m the DP who posted above. Spewing hate into an anonymous forum doesn’t help your argument. You don’t appear smarter or more logical. You simply appear… hateful.
If you are trying to sway opinion, this doesn’t work. Can you cut it out?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know where I can find a summary of BOE member Harris’ work to deport Muslims after 9/11?
Do your own research? There's a little search engine called Google.
Yes, because everything on the internets found via google is reliable!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The decision to remove the opt-out option was made by Dr. McKnight, not the board. A few members of the BOE have voiced their strong support, but there hasn't been a vote or official statement on the issue.
Testimony during public comments around the opt-out option has been going on for months. After every round of public comments, the BOE members remark and they either ignore the negative comments or voice support for dismantling the opt-out option in the name of diversity, equity and inclusion.
If there was a contingent within the BOE who felt differently from what has been expressed, I think they would have expressed it by now.
That's great! I'm so glad they aren't caving to the bigotry.
It’s kind of ironic that you are using bigotry to fight what you also claim is bigotry.
Unfortunately, I’m not shocked by this myopic view. The goal no longer seems to be mutual respect and shared spaces. It seems to be “give me my way and screw you.”
I say this as a fairly moderate person, who is perfectly happy to support the LGBTQA+ community AND religious communities. I’ve quickly realized, however, that there is no room for voices like mine.
The video of the protest was appalling to me. Such rude behaviors from the counter protesters: the glaring music drowning out voices, the middle finger, the rude comments. This is what Montgomery County has become?
Same here. Diversity is OK in MoCo as long as it's not viewpoint diversity. Then you must be shunned for not agreeing with them.
The fact that gay people exist in real life and therefore in some books is not a "viewpoint."
No, but not wanting your kids to be taught about it at a young age is.
Not wanting your kids to be taught about the existence of gravity at a young age is also a viewpoint.
And guess what... they don't teach kids about gravity at a young age because it's hard to understand, just like understanding why some adults think that putting on a dress and make-up changes their sex. So, I think we can all agree to wait until they are a little older to learn about both.
Lol, kids aren’t idiots. They see things, they hear things, and they understand things. Thankfully they are much more tolerant and accepting than people like you.
So you don’t agree with the concept of age appropriate topics?
But everything discussed here was age appropriate.
+100..kids have *gasp* gay parents...they understand this from day 1. Kids who have straight parents see relationship dynamics as well. You're not sitting here crying about them seeing men kiss women. Grow up. I'm so embarrassed for you.
Resorting to insults. Not unexpected.
DP, yes. People will insult you for being ignorant. Obviously it is something you're used to. Maybe read a book for a change. Get off DCUM. If you asked valid questions or brought up valid points, people would be willing to have a discourse with you. But you're fully spewing BS and don't care to learn anything new, so...
Again…
I’m the DP who posted above. Spewing hate into an anonymous forum doesn’t help your argument. You don’t appear smarter or more logical. You simply appear… hateful.
If you are trying to sway opinion, this doesn’t work. Can you cut it out?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know where I can find a summary of BOE member Harris’ work to deport Muslims after 9/11?
Do your own research? There's a little search engine called Google.
Yes, because everything on the internets found via google is reliable!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know where I can find a summary of BOE member Harris’ work to deport Muslims after 9/11?
Do your own research? There's a little search engine called Google.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The decision to remove the opt-out option was made by Dr. McKnight, not the board. A few members of the BOE have voiced their strong support, but there hasn't been a vote or official statement on the issue.
Testimony during public comments around the opt-out option has been going on for months. After every round of public comments, the BOE members remark and they either ignore the negative comments or voice support for dismantling the opt-out option in the name of diversity, equity and inclusion.
If there was a contingent within the BOE who felt differently from what has been expressed, I think they would have expressed it by now.
That's great! I'm so glad they aren't caving to the bigotry.
It’s kind of ironic that you are using bigotry to fight what you also claim is bigotry.
Unfortunately, I’m not shocked by this myopic view. The goal no longer seems to be mutual respect and shared spaces. It seems to be “give me my way and screw you.”
I say this as a fairly moderate person, who is perfectly happy to support the LGBTQA+ community AND religious communities. I’ve quickly realized, however, that there is no room for voices like mine.
The video of the protest was appalling to me. Such rude behaviors from the counter protesters: the glaring music drowning out voices, the middle finger, the rude comments. This is what Montgomery County has become?
Same here. Diversity is OK in MoCo as long as it's not viewpoint diversity. Then you must be shunned for not agreeing with them.
The fact that gay people exist in real life and therefore in some books is not a "viewpoint."
No, but not wanting your kids to be taught about it at a young age is.
Not wanting your kids to be taught about the existence of gravity at a young age is also a viewpoint.
And guess what... they don't teach kids about gravity at a young age because it's hard to understand, just like understanding why some adults think that putting on a dress and make-up changes their sex. So, I think we can all agree to wait until they are a little older to learn about both.
Lol, kids aren’t idiots. They see things, they hear things, and they understand things. Thankfully they are much more tolerant and accepting than people like you.
So you don’t agree with the concept of age appropriate topics?
But everything discussed here was age appropriate.
+100..kids have *gasp* gay parents...they understand this from day 1. Kids who have straight parents see relationship dynamics as well. You're not sitting here crying about them seeing men kiss women. Grow up. I'm so embarrassed for you.
Resorting to insults. Not unexpected.
DP, yes. People will insult you for being ignorant. Obviously it is something you're used to. Maybe read a book for a change. Get off DCUM. If you asked valid questions or brought up valid points, people would be willing to have a discourse with you. But you're fully spewing BS and don't care to learn anything new, so...
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The decision to remove the opt-out option was made by Dr. McKnight, not the board. A few members of the BOE have voiced their strong support, but there hasn't been a vote or official statement on the issue.
Testimony during public comments around the opt-out option has been going on for months. After every round of public comments, the BOE members remark and they either ignore the negative comments or voice support for dismantling the opt-out option in the name of diversity, equity and inclusion.
If there was a contingent within the BOE who felt differently from what has been expressed, I think they would have expressed it by now.
That's great! I'm so glad they aren't caving to the bigotry.
It’s kind of ironic that you are using bigotry to fight what you also claim is bigotry.
Unfortunately, I’m not shocked by this myopic view. The goal no longer seems to be mutual respect and shared spaces. It seems to be “give me my way and screw you.”
I say this as a fairly moderate person, who is perfectly happy to support the LGBTQA+ community AND religious communities. I’ve quickly realized, however, that there is no room for voices like mine.
The video of the protest was appalling to me. Such rude behaviors from the counter protesters: the glaring music drowning out voices, the middle finger, the rude comments. This is what Montgomery County has become?
Same here. Diversity is OK in MoCo as long as it's not viewpoint diversity. Then you must be shunned for not agreeing with them.
The fact that gay people exist in real life and therefore in some books is not a "viewpoint."
No, but not wanting your kids to be taught about it at a young age is.
Not wanting your kids to be taught about the existence of gravity at a young age is also a viewpoint.
And guess what... they don't teach kids about gravity at a young age because it's hard to understand, just like understanding why some adults think that putting on a dress and make-up changes their sex. So, I think we can all agree to wait until they are a little older to learn about both.
Lol, kids aren’t idiots. They see things, they hear things, and they understand things. Thankfully they are much more tolerant and accepting than people like you.
So you don’t agree with the concept of age appropriate topics?
But everything discussed here was age appropriate.
+100..kids have *gasp* gay parents...they understand this from day 1. Kids who have straight parents see relationship dynamics as well. You're not sitting here crying about them seeing men kiss women. Grow up. I'm so embarrassed for you.
Resorting to insults. Not unexpected.
Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know where I can find a summary of BOE member Harris’ work to deport Muslims after 9/11?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I actually thought Mink’s testimony was, for the most part, powerful and thoughtful. She (more than some BOE members) actually took the time to speak with and listen to the POV of those requesting to reinstate the opt-out. While she ultimately felt their position was not tenable because opting out, in her view, was not neutral but actually causes harm to the LGBTQ community, her testimony was mostly intended to build a bridge rather than divide.
+1 Mink is not always my favorite board member, but she does have a nuanced understanding of intersectionality. I know that the Moms for Liberty folks thought they had a trump card by involving CAIR (because libs love brown folks, amiright?) but Mink seems to understand that religion and acceptance are not opposing, and that an intersectional approach demands consideration of people marginalized on multiple axis, including LGBTQ+ Muslim American youth.
DP. Or, to put it in plain language for him people unfamiliar with terms like "marginalized" or "intersectional":
Some Muslim-Americans are LGBTQ+.
Some LGBTQ+ people are Muslim-Americans.
The Moms for Liberty folks don't want LGBTQ+ people (whether Muslim or non-Muslim) in public life AND ALSO don't want Muslim-American people (whether LGBTQ+ or non-LGBTQ+) in public life.
Thank you.
Seemed to me that the only group that didn’t want Muslims to have a place in public life was the group of largely white, middle-aged women staging the counter protest and labeling their counterparts’ religion as bigoted and consistent with white supremacy.
If that's how it seems to you, I can only conclude that you haven't been paying attention.
Yes, because we all know that the best way to invite a marginalized group into the public discourse is to label them as bigots, describe their children’s testimony as dogma and make clear that they’re on the same side of an issue as white supremacists.
This is off-topic, but why would we consider people who actively chose to move to a majority Christian nation as "marginalized?" If I move to Saudi Arabia, am I automatically marginalized?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I actually thought Mink’s testimony was, for the most part, powerful and thoughtful. She (more than some BOE members) actually took the time to speak with and listen to the POV of those requesting to reinstate the opt-out. While she ultimately felt their position was not tenable because opting out, in her view, was not neutral but actually causes harm to the LGBTQ community, her testimony was mostly intended to build a bridge rather than divide.
+1 Mink is not always my favorite board member, but she does have a nuanced understanding of intersectionality. I know that the Moms for Liberty folks thought they had a trump card by involving CAIR (because libs love brown folks, amiright?) but Mink seems to understand that religion and acceptance are not opposing, and that an intersectional approach demands consideration of people marginalized on multiple axis, including LGBTQ+ Muslim American youth.
DP. Or, to put it in plain language for him people unfamiliar with terms like "marginalized" or "intersectional":
Some Muslim-Americans are LGBTQ+.
Some LGBTQ+ people are Muslim-Americans.
The Moms for Liberty folks don't want LGBTQ+ people (whether Muslim or non-Muslim) in public life AND ALSO don't want Muslim-American people (whether LGBTQ+ or non-LGBTQ+) in public life.
Thank you.
Seemed to me that the only group that didn’t want Muslims to have a place in public life was the group of largely white, middle-aged women staging the counter protest and labeling their counterparts’ religion as bigoted and consistent with white supremacy.
If that's how it seems to you, I can only conclude that you haven't been paying attention.
Yes, because we all know that the best way to invite a marginalized group into the public discourse is to label them as bigots, describe their children’s testimony as dogma and make clear that they’re on the same side of an issue as white supremacists.
This is off-topic, but why would we consider people who actively chose to move to a majority Christian nation as "marginalized?" If I move to Saudi Arabia, am I automatically marginalized?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The decision to remove the opt-out option was made by Dr. McKnight, not the board. A few members of the BOE have voiced their strong support, but there hasn't been a vote or official statement on the issue.
Testimony during public comments around the opt-out option has been going on for months. After every round of public comments, the BOE members remark and they either ignore the negative comments or voice support for dismantling the opt-out option in the name of diversity, equity and inclusion.
If there was a contingent within the BOE who felt differently from what has been expressed, I think they would have expressed it by now.
That's great! I'm so glad they aren't caving to the bigotry.
It’s kind of ironic that you are using bigotry to fight what you also claim is bigotry.
Unfortunately, I’m not shocked by this myopic view. The goal no longer seems to be mutual respect and shared spaces. It seems to be “give me my way and screw you.”
I say this as a fairly moderate person, who is perfectly happy to support the LGBTQA+ community AND religious communities. I’ve quickly realized, however, that there is no room for voices like mine.
The video of the protest was appalling to me. Such rude behaviors from the counter protesters: the glaring music drowning out voices, the middle finger, the rude comments. This is what Montgomery County has become?
Same here. Diversity is OK in MoCo as long as it's not viewpoint diversity. Then you must be shunned for not agreeing with them.
The fact that gay people exist in real life and therefore in some books is not a "viewpoint."
No, but not wanting your kids to be taught about it at a young age is.
Not wanting your kids to be taught about the existence of gravity at a young age is also a viewpoint.
And guess what... they don't teach kids about gravity at a young age because it's hard to understand, just like understanding why some adults think that putting on a dress and make-up changes their sex. So, I think we can all agree to wait until they are a little older to learn about both.
Lol, kids aren’t idiots. They see things, they hear things, and they understand things. Thankfully they are much more tolerant and accepting than people like you.
So you don’t agree with the concept of age appropriate topics?
But everything discussed here was age appropriate.
+100..kids have *gasp* gay parents...they understand this from day 1. Kids who have straight parents see relationship dynamics as well. You're not sitting here crying about them seeing men kiss women. Grow up. I'm so embarrassed for you.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I actually thought Mink’s testimony was, for the most part, powerful and thoughtful. She (more than some BOE members) actually took the time to speak with and listen to the POV of those requesting to reinstate the opt-out. While she ultimately felt their position was not tenable because opting out, in her view, was not neutral but actually causes harm to the LGBTQ community, her testimony was mostly intended to build a bridge rather than divide.
+1 Mink is not always my favorite board member, but she does have a nuanced understanding of intersectionality. I know that the Moms for Liberty folks thought they had a trump card by involving CAIR (because libs love brown folks, amiright?) but Mink seems to understand that religion and acceptance are not opposing, and that an intersectional approach demands consideration of people marginalized on multiple axis, including LGBTQ+ Muslim American youth.
DP. Or, to put it in plain language for him people unfamiliar with terms like "marginalized" or "intersectional":
Some Muslim-Americans are LGBTQ+.
Some LGBTQ+ people are Muslim-Americans.
The Moms for Liberty folks don't want LGBTQ+ people (whether Muslim or non-Muslim) in public life AND ALSO don't want Muslim-American people (whether LGBTQ+ or non-LGBTQ+) in public life.
Thank you.
Seemed to me that the only group that didn’t want Muslims to have a place in public life was the group of largely white, middle-aged women staging the counter protest and labeling their counterparts’ religion as bigoted and consistent with white supremacy.
If that's how it seems to you, I can only conclude that you haven't been paying attention.
Yes, because we all know that the best way to invite a marginalized group into the public discourse is to label them as bigots, describe their children’s testimony as dogma and make clear that they’re on the same side of an issue as white supremacists.
This is off-topic, but why would we consider people who actively chose to move to a majority Christian nation as "marginalized?" If I move to Saudi Arabia, am I automatically marginalized?
How dumb are you? No… seriously.
So you feel people who are not in a marginalized group, can't have an opinion?
Dealing with uneducated people is like dealing with kindergartners...you have no comprehension skills or critical thinking skills...it's exhausting.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The decision to remove the opt-out option was made by Dr. McKnight, not the board. A few members of the BOE have voiced their strong support, but there hasn't been a vote or official statement on the issue.
Testimony during public comments around the opt-out option has been going on for months. After every round of public comments, the BOE members remark and they either ignore the negative comments or voice support for dismantling the opt-out option in the name of diversity, equity and inclusion.
If there was a contingent within the BOE who felt differently from what has been expressed, I think they would have expressed it by now.
That's great! I'm so glad they aren't caving to the bigotry.
It’s kind of ironic that you are using bigotry to fight what you also claim is bigotry.
Unfortunately, I’m not shocked by this myopic view. The goal no longer seems to be mutual respect and shared spaces. It seems to be “give me my way and screw you.”
I say this as a fairly moderate person, who is perfectly happy to support the LGBTQA+ community AND religious communities. I’ve quickly realized, however, that there is no room for voices like mine.
The video of the protest was appalling to me. Such rude behaviors from the counter protesters: the glaring music drowning out voices, the middle finger, the rude comments. This is what Montgomery County has become?
Same here. Diversity is OK in MoCo as long as it's not viewpoint diversity. Then you must be shunned for not agreeing with them.
The fact that gay people exist in real life and therefore in some books is not a "viewpoint."
No, but not wanting your kids to be taught about it at a young age is.
Not wanting your kids to be taught about the existence of gravity at a young age is also a viewpoint.
And guess what... they don't teach kids about gravity at a young age because it's hard to understand, just like understanding why some adults think that putting on a dress and make-up changes their sex. So, I think we can all agree to wait until they are a little older to learn about both.
Lol, kids aren’t idiots. They see things, they hear things, and they understand things. Thankfully they are much more tolerant and accepting than people like you.
So you don’t agree with the concept of age appropriate topics?
But everything discussed here was age appropriate.