Anonymous
Post 06/25/2023 21:07     Subject: Fairfax County police to expand use of automated license plate readers this spring
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Good. I hope they crack down on the paper tags that are EVERYWHERE.


EXPIRED paper tags everywhere.

Fixed that for you!


A lot of the times there are expired tags because the DMV hasn't processed the valid ones.


Yeah right. I never had a problem getting tags from DC DMV
Anonymous
Post 06/24/2023 10:01     Subject: Fairfax County police to expand use of automated license plate readers this spring
If that's how they catch the racers around the Beltway, I'm all in favor of it!
Anonymous
Post 06/24/2023 09:39     Subject: Fairfax County police to expand use of automated license plate readers this spring
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I guess I will leave this here.

https://techcrunch.com/2023/06/13/us-intelligence-report-purchase-americans-personal-data/

Remember this when the people in power disagree with your personal values.


Yet another private company helping the government's surveillance apparatus:

https://theintercept.com/2023/06/20/lexisnexis-ice-surveillance-license-plates/


In practice, this means ICE is using software to “automate” the hunt for suspicious-looking blips in the data, or links between people, places, and property. It is unclear how such blips in the data can be linked to immigration infractions or criminal activity, but the contract’s use of the term “automate” indicates that ICE is to some extent letting computers make consequential conclusions about human activity.


If you can read the entire Intercept article through your aluminum foil body suit, kudos.

And if this is really a good-faith concern (it’s not), the use of data can be controlled through the contract.
Anonymous
Post 06/24/2023 08:55     Subject: Fairfax County police to expand use of automated license plate readers this spring
Anonymous wrote:I guess I will leave this here.

https://techcrunch.com/2023/06/13/us-intelligence-report-purchase-americans-personal-data/

Remember this when the people in power disagree with your personal values.


Yet another private company helping the government's surveillance apparatus:

https://theintercept.com/2023/06/20/lexisnexis-ice-surveillance-license-plates/


In practice, this means ICE is using software to “automate” the hunt for suspicious-looking blips in the data, or links between people, places, and property. It is unclear how such blips in the data can be linked to immigration infractions or criminal activity, but the contract’s use of the term “automate” indicates that ICE is to some extent letting computers make consequential conclusions about human activity.
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2023 19:32     Subject: Fairfax County police to expand use of automated license plate readers this spring
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Good. I hope they crack down on the paper tags that are EVERYWHERE.


EXPIRED paper tags everywhere.

Fixed that for you!


A lot of the times there are expired tags because the DMV hasn't processed the valid ones.
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2023 19:27     Subject: Re:Fairfax County police to expand use of automated license plate readers this spring
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What would be the concern?


The same as with speed cameras. People want to speed and not get ticketed. Same here.


Strong supporter of speed cameras but license plate readers make me uneasy unless there are clear guidelines. It's sad the bill in the General Assembly to provide guidelines failed this year.


It is interesting that traffic cameras can now detect reckless driving, tailgating, etc. Almost any traffic violation you can think of the software can detect and cite. If Virginia would fully embrace the technology you could really increase safety. It is usually repeat offenders.
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2023 18:22     Subject: Re:Fairfax County police to expand use of automated license plate readers this spring
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What would be the concern?


The same as with speed cameras. People want to speed and not get ticketed. Same here.


Strong supporter of speed cameras but license plate readers make me uneasy unless there are clear guidelines. It's sad the bill in the General Assembly to provide guidelines failed this year.
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2023 22:16     Subject: Fairfax County police to expand use of automated license plate readers this spring
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Clear invasion of privacy.


Really, we have a right to the privacy of our license plate number? I don't think so. Of course, I'm not a constitutional lawyer, but I'm fairly certain you don't.


Having a log file mapping your daily movements creates a potential source of serious abuse. That kind of information is very powerful and should not be left open to abuse by loosely regulated and secretive groups of people.


Exactly. Anyone who thinks this is a good idea should visit China to see how it feels to be tracked.


Yes. Fairfax is China. That’s it.


Increasingly, yes.

China and North Korea love mass surveillance programs like this to make sure their citizens stay inline.

Why do you like that kind of model for society?

Exactly. They have no guaranteed God-given freedoms like we do.


I am getting stuck on the theological question of how do people have the power to take away freedoms that were given by God?


It's not God. When you live in a society, you abide by the rights afforded to you by that society. Otherwise go elsewhere.
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2023 14:29     Subject: Fairfax County police to expand use of automated license plate readers this spring
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Clear invasion of privacy.


Really, we have a right to the privacy of our license plate number? I don't think so. Of course, I'm not a constitutional lawyer, but I'm fairly certain you don't.


Having a log file mapping your daily movements creates a potential source of serious abuse. That kind of information is very powerful and should not be left open to abuse by loosely regulated and secretive groups of people.


Exactly. Anyone who thinks this is a good idea should visit China to see how it feels to be tracked.


Yes. Fairfax is China. That’s it.


Increasingly, yes.

China and North Korea love mass surveillance programs like this to make sure their citizens stay inline.

Why do you like that kind of model for society?

Exactly. They have no guaranteed God-given freedoms like we do.


I am getting stuck on the theological question of how do people have the power to take away freedoms that were given by God?
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2023 13:31     Subject: Fairfax County police to expand use of automated license plate readers this spring
Anonymous wrote:I guess I will leave this here.

https://techcrunch.com/2023/06/13/us-intelligence-report-purchase-americans-personal-data/

Remember this when the people in power disagree with your personal values.


Yeah, I don’t think your NextDoor post opposing your HOA’s lawn ornament policy is gonna get you sent to Gitmo, but you’re right, you never know.
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2023 13:18     Subject: Fairfax County police to expand use of automated license plate readers this spring
Anonymous wrote:Good. I hope they crack down on the paper tags that are EVERYWHERE.


EXPIRED paper tags everywhere.

Fixed that for you!
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2023 08:19     Subject: Fairfax County police to expand use of automated license plate readers this spring
I guess I will leave this here.

https://techcrunch.com/2023/06/13/us-intelligence-report-purchase-americans-personal-data/

Remember this when the people in power disagree with your personal values.