Anonymous
06/13/2023 07:59
Subject: McLean HS 2023 Outcomes
Very disappointing results for arguably the top HS in the top High School District (except for TJ).
Anonymous
06/12/2023 23:37
Subject: McLean HS 2023 Outcomes
Lots of Asian McLean kids going to top colleges could have gone to TJ instead, but they wanted to maximize their class rank. It worked and you will continue to see McLean kids get into top schools.
Anonymous
06/12/2023 23:25
Subject: Re:McLean HS 2023 Outcomes
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Everything's relative. This was from an earlier thread: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/30/975332.page
The numbers from 2016 onwards still show a decline in numbers for the main Virginia schools:
UVA
2016 33
2017 34
2018 35
2019 29
2020 27
2021 21
Overall 36% decline in matriculation since 2016
VT
2016 47
2017 48
2018 10
2019 45
2020 35
2021 22
Overall 53% decline in matriculation since 2016
W&M
2016 17
2017 17
2018 15
2019 16
2020 11
2021 11
Overall 35% decline in matriculation since 2016
GMU
2016 16
2017 16
2018 17
2019 21
2020 18
2021 6
Overall 38% decline in matriculation since 2016
JMU
2016 19
2017 17
2018 22
2019 15
2020 15
2021 17
Overall 10% decline in matriculation since 2016
The data are from the same school magazine so subject to the same caveats.
UVA, VT, W&M and GMU have higher numbers in 2023 than 2021, while JMU has a decrease. Shows that 2021 was really bad (see other thread) and 2023 is an improvement for those schools. Is it a reversion to the mean or a deviation? Wait until next year to see the preliminary answers.
All of these colleges have gotten more selective over the years. For all students, no matter where you're from or what school you go to.
It isn't even that they've become more selective, which they have (75th percentil at UVA last year haad a 4.53 GPA and a 34 ACT) but because parents wizened up duing covid and said "I'm not paying $84K a year" which is what my SLAC now is. You might remember that many people lost their jobs during covid. Recent college grads couldn't get jobs in their field. Many parents looked at the situation and said "gosh we have amazing opportunities right here in VA at a "reasonable" cost". Which is exactly what we did. So, ergo, yes, they've become a LOT more selective but economics and covid give you a simply reason why
Hardest possible agree.
Thank you
Anonymous
06/12/2023 17:57
Subject: McLean HS 2023 Outcomes
You simply cannot compare schools unless you have all the data — which you don’t have. You also don’t understand the thinking behind why a student chooses one school over another. I know one girl who got into a bunch of top schools got a full ride to Alabama, which is where she plans to attend. Someone last year got into Northwestern, but chose Syracuse because he got a full ride there. Other kids are going to in-state schools because their parents pre-paid their tuition years ago. It just makes financial sense, so to suggest that Langley or McLean (or any other school) is sub-par based solely on college commits is ridiculous.
Anonymous
06/12/2023 14:20
Subject: Re:McLean HS 2023 Outcomes
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Everything's relative. This was from an earlier thread: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/30/975332.page
The numbers from 2016 onwards still show a decline in numbers for the main Virginia schools:
UVA
2016 33
2017 34
2018 35
2019 29
2020 27
2021 21
Overall 36% decline in matriculation since 2016
VT
2016 47
2017 48
2018 10
2019 45
2020 35
2021 22
Overall 53% decline in matriculation since 2016
W&M
2016 17
2017 17
2018 15
2019 16
2020 11
2021 11
Overall 35% decline in matriculation since 2016
GMU
2016 16
2017 16
2018 17
2019 21
2020 18
2021 6
Overall 38% decline in matriculation since 2016
JMU
2016 19
2017 17
2018 22
2019 15
2020 15
2021 17
Overall 10% decline in matriculation since 2016
The data are from the same school magazine so subject to the same caveats.
UVA, VT, W&M and GMU have higher numbers in 2023 than 2021, while JMU has a decrease. Shows that 2021 was really bad (see other thread) and 2023 is an improvement for those schools. Is it a reversion to the mean or a deviation? Wait until next year to see the preliminary answers.
All of these colleges have gotten more selective over the years. For all students, no matter where you're from or what school you go to.
It isn't even that they've become more selective, which they have (75th percentil at UVA last year haad a 4.53 GPA and a 34 ACT) but because parents wizened up duing covid and said "I'm not paying $84K a year" which is what my SLAC now is. You might remember that many people lost their jobs during covid. Recent college grads couldn't get jobs in their field. Many parents looked at the situation and said "gosh we have amazing opportunities right here in VA at a "reasonable" cost". Which is exactly what we did. So, ergo, yes, they've become a LOT more selective but economics and covid give you a simply reason why
Hardest possible agree.
Anonymous
06/12/2023 13:59
Subject: Re:McLean HS 2023 Outcomes
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I find it interesting that the SLAC list is pretty limited and not that impressive
There are over 600 grads. The list is incomplete.
Also, this list shows were kids attended. Not where they got in. Personally, my kid would go to a lesser LAC with merit and we pay full price for s higher ranked one.
I’m from the Northeast and noticed that SLACs don’t seem very popular. I once asked why so many people choose out of state publics and got crucified. I think it is a mix of money and low acceptance rates.
Applications are certainly up more at state publics but the top SLACs are still popular among a subset of families with strong students (full pay and an increasing number of first gen and lower income families who qualify for substantial financial aid). Applications have increased substantially at most of the top SLACs over the last decade with schools like Davidson reporting record number of applications this year. For some families, COA at Amherst or Williams is less than UVA/W&M.
Anonymous
06/12/2023 13:25
Subject: Re:McLean HS 2023 Outcomes
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Everything's relative. This was from an earlier thread: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/30/975332.page
The numbers from 2016 onwards still show a decline in numbers for the main Virginia schools:
UVA
2016 33
2017 34
2018 35
2019 29
2020 27
2021 21
Overall 36% decline in matriculation since 2016
VT
2016 47
2017 48
2018 10
2019 45
2020 35
2021 22
Overall 53% decline in matriculation since 2016
W&M
2016 17
2017 17
2018 15
2019 16
2020 11
2021 11
Overall 35% decline in matriculation since 2016
GMU
2016 16
2017 16
2018 17
2019 21
2020 18
2021 6
Overall 38% decline in matriculation since 2016
JMU
2016 19
2017 17
2018 22
2019 15
2020 15
2021 17
Overall 10% decline in matriculation since 2016
The data are from the same school magazine so subject to the same caveats.
UVA, VT, W&M and GMU have higher numbers in 2023 than 2021, while JMU has a decrease. Shows that 2021 was really bad (see other thread) and 2023 is an improvement for those schools. Is it a reversion to the mean or a deviation? Wait until next year to see the preliminary answers.
All of these colleges have gotten more selective over the years. For all students, no matter where you're from or what school you go to.
It isn't even that they've become more selective, which they have (75th percentil at UVA last year haad a 4.53 GPA and a 34 ACT) but because parents wizened up duing covid and said "I'm not paying $84K a year" which is what my SLAC now is. You might remember that many people lost their jobs during covid. Recent college grads couldn't get jobs in their field. Many parents looked at the situation and said "gosh we have amazing opportunities right here in VA at a "reasonable" cost". Which is exactly what we did. So, ergo, yes, they've become a LOT more selective but economics and covid give you a simply reason why
Anonymous
06/12/2023 13:18
Subject: Re:McLean HS 2023 Outcomes
OP did you sit down and type all of this out?
Anonymous
06/12/2023 12:48
Subject: McLean HS 2023 Outcomes
Anonymous wrote:Surprised not to see anyone going to University of Richmond.
There's a student going to Richmond. It was posted on the Instagram page but perhaps not in the senior edition of the newspaper.
Anonymous
06/12/2023 12:37
Subject: Re:McLean HS 2023 Outcomes
Also with the Common App a bunch of kids are just a click away for OOS Colleges.
Anonymous
06/12/2023 11:51
Subject: McLean HS 2023 Outcomes
Truth ^^
Anonymous
06/12/2023 11:47
Subject: Re:McLean HS 2023 Outcomes
Anonymous wrote:Everything's relative. This was from an earlier thread: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/30/975332.page
The numbers from 2016 onwards still show a decline in numbers for the main Virginia schools:
UVA
2016 33
2017 34
2018 35
2019 29
2020 27
2021 21
Overall 36% decline in matriculation since 2016
VT
2016 47
2017 48
2018 10
2019 45
2020 35
2021 22
Overall 53% decline in matriculation since 2016
W&M
2016 17
2017 17
2018 15
2019 16
2020 11
2021 11
Overall 35% decline in matriculation since 2016
GMU
2016 16
2017 16
2018 17
2019 21
2020 18
2021 6
Overall 38% decline in matriculation since 2016
JMU
2016 19
2017 17
2018 22
2019 15
2020 15
2021 17
Overall 10% decline in matriculation since 2016
The data are from the same school magazine so subject to the same caveats.
UVA, VT, W&M and GMU have higher numbers in 2023 than 2021, while JMU has a decrease. Shows that 2021 was really bad (see other thread) and 2023 is an improvement for those schools. Is it a reversion to the mean or a deviation? Wait until next year to see the preliminary answers.
All of these colleges have gotten more selective over the years. For all students, no matter where you're from or what school you go to.
Anonymous
06/12/2023 11:45
Subject: McLean HS 2023 Outcomes
Anonymous wrote:DC is at McLean, and brought home the senior year edition of the school magazine with school commitments. It's not entlrely complete, of course, since it's self reported. However, I wanted to give some hope to next year's applicants (of which DC is one) that good outcomes are still possible even in this horrible college application environment:
Ivy + MIT: Yale (4), Harvard (2), Cornell (2), Dartmouth (2), Penn, Brown, MIT
Other T30: Georgetown (3), Southern Cal (3), Johns Hopkins (2), Duke (2), Michigan (2), Georgia, Wake Forest, Case Western, Carnegie Mellon, Emory, Chicago, Georgia Tech
Top Virginia: UVA (26), VT (22), W&M (16)
Other Virginia: JMU (10), GMU (10), VCU (5), CNU (2), VMI, NoVA, Shenandoah, Emory & Henry, Hampden-Sydney, UMW
SLAC: Bucknell (2), Wesleyan, Tufts, Carleton, Macalester, West Point, Kenyon, Haverford, Wheaton, Franklin & Marshall, Juniata, Muhlenberg
OOS Publics: Tennessee (6), Penn State (6), Pitt (4), Ohio State (4), Illinois (4), Purdue (4), Maryland (3), Colorado (3), Indiana (2), Washington (2), Wisconsin (2), Temple (2), Delaware, Florida State, Kentucky, Kansas, Michigan State, Minnesota, Oregon, Oregon State, Clemson, South Carolina, Utah, Vermont, Auburn, Arizona, UC Irvine, SD State, Colorado State, South Florida, Montana, Miami U, U-Mass,
Other: Cambridge, McGill, Toronto, U-Miami, BC (3) BU (2), Northeastern, NYU, Syracuse (4), GWU (2), Howard, Elon (4), San Diego, Loyola Marymount, Tampa, Rollins, Loyola Chicago, Loyola MD, RPI, Pratt (2), Bowling Green (2), Dayton, Xavier,
There are less than 300 students here. With a class of 600+ This is pretty much a 50/50 chance to anywhere!
No hope for the other 300 who didn't report...
Anonymous
06/12/2023 11:41
Subject: McLean HS 2023 Outcomes
Surprised not to see anyone going to University of Richmond.
Anonymous
06/12/2023 11:34
Subject: Re:McLean HS 2023 Outcomes
Everything's relative. This was from an earlier thread: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/30/975332.page
The numbers from 2016 onwards still show a decline in numbers for the main Virginia schools:
UVA
2016 33
2017 34
2018 35
2019 29
2020 27
2021 21
Overall 36% decline in matriculation since 2016
VT
2016 47
2017 48
2018 10
2019 45
2020 35
2021 22
Overall 53% decline in matriculation since 2016
W&M
2016 17
2017 17
2018 15
2019 16
2020 11
2021 11
Overall 35% decline in matriculation since 2016
GMU
2016 16
2017 16
2018 17
2019 21
2020 18
2021 6
Overall 38% decline in matriculation since 2016
JMU
2016 19
2017 17
2018 22
2019 15
2020 15
2021 17
Overall 10% decline in matriculation since 2016
The data are from the same school magazine so subject to the same caveats.
UVA, VT, W&M and GMU have higher numbers in 2023 than 2021, while JMU has a decrease. Shows that 2021 was really bad (see other thread) and 2023 is an improvement for those schools. Is it a reversion to the mean or a deviation? Wait until next year to see the preliminary answers.
The numbers from 2016 onwards still show a decline in numbers for the main Virginia schools:
UVA
2016 33
2017 34
2018 35
2019 29
2020 27
2021 21
Overall 36% decline in matriculation since 2016
VT
2016 47
2017 48
2018 10
2019 45
2020 35
2021 22
Overall 53% decline in matriculation since 2016
W&M
2016 17
2017 17
2018 15
2019 16
2020 11
2021 11
Overall 35% decline in matriculation since 2016
GMU
2016 16
2017 16
2018 17
2019 21
2020 18
2021 6
Overall 38% decline in matriculation since 2016
JMU
2016 19
2017 17
2018 22
2019 15
2020 15
2021 17
Overall 10% decline in matriculation since 2016
The data are from the same school magazine so subject to the same caveats.
UVA, VT, W&M and GMU have higher numbers in 2023 than 2021, while JMU has a decrease. Shows that 2021 was really bad (see other thread) and 2023 is an improvement for those schools. Is it a reversion to the mean or a deviation? Wait until next year to see the preliminary answers.