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Anonymous wrote:I am queer and will never “proactively” share my pronouns. I’m a woman. It’s obvious. This is such virtue signaling bs I can’t even. This makes me so mad.

Why doesn’t it make you mad? The point is to do one small thing that can help make other people’s lives easier. Is it really that difficult to edit your email signature?

In real life, this has zero impact. It’s woke virtue signaling that I will not support.

What is “woke virtue signaling” in your view?

Leadership demanding that everyone share their pronouns so they can feel better about themselves.

Not sure I understand. PPs have explained how this helps people. Why are you opposed?

Because the people who write things like this assume to know what helps people.

I’m Jewish and I don’t expect people to write #fightantisemitism on their signature so I know they don’t hate me before they know my religion. I choose to just respect people and use the pronouns they prefer. I don’t feel I need to share mine. My name is an obvious female name.

Obvious to whom?

Not the PP but I'm assuming it's obvious to anyone who still chooses to use common sense.

I will support and use proper terminology for anyone who chooses to include that in the email or in conversation. I'm not against it at all.

I will not be forced into this virtue-signaling BS for myself. I am a woman, no one is confused about that. They do not need me to announce it intentionally in emails or verbally. Why would someone named Sarah who obviously is a woman, dresses like one, and sounds like one need to include she/her/hers??

It's stupid and pointless. But again, ask me to refer to you as anything you wish and I'll respect that and do it gladly.

Thanks.

It’s been obvious to all people I’ve met in 43 years on the planet and in every country I’ve visited, but I guess if someone incorrectly thought it was male I’d not be much offended.

Aren't we talking about emails?

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Anonymous wrote:I am queer and will never “proactively” share my pronouns. I’m a woman. It’s obvious. This is such virtue signaling bs I can’t even. This makes me so mad.

Why doesn’t it make you mad? The point is to do one small thing that can help make other people’s lives easier. Is it really that difficult to edit your email signature?

In real life, this has zero impact. It’s woke virtue signaling that I will not support.

What is “woke virtue signaling” in your view?

Leadership demanding that everyone share their pronouns so they can feel better about themselves.

Not sure I understand. PPs have explained how this helps people. Why are you opposed?

Because the people who write things like this assume to know what helps people.

I’m Jewish and I don’t expect people to write #fightantisemitism on their signature so I know they don’t hate me before they know my religion. I choose to just respect people and use the pronouns they prefer. I don’t feel I need to share mine. My name is an obvious female name.

Obvious to whom?

Not the PP but I'm assuming it's obvious to anyone who still chooses to use common sense.

I will support and use proper terminology for anyone who chooses to include that in the email or in conversation. I'm not against it at all.

I will not be forced into this virtue-signaling BS for myself. I am a woman, no one is confused about that. They do not need me to announce it intentionally in emails or verbally. Why would someone named Sarah who obviously is a woman, dresses like one, and sounds like one need to include she/her/hers??

It's stupid and pointless. But again, ask me to refer to you as anything you wish and I'll respect that and do it gladly.

It’s clear you just have WASP friends/coworker because even sarah is not obviously female to people from other countries.

Anonymous wrote:I'm glad my company doesn't make me do it. If they did, I would be annoyed, but do it.

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Anonymous wrote:I am queer and will never “proactively” share my pronouns. I’m a woman. It’s obvious. This is such virtue signaling bs I can’t even. This makes me so mad.

Why doesn’t it make you mad? The point is to do one small thing that can help make other people’s lives easier. Is it really that difficult to edit your email signature?

In real life, this has zero impact. It’s woke virtue signaling that I will not support.

What is “woke virtue signaling” in your view?

Leadership demanding that everyone share their pronouns so they can feel better about themselves.

Not sure I understand. PPs have explained how this helps people. Why are you opposed?

Because the people who write things like this assume to know what helps people.

I’m Jewish and I don’t expect people to write #fightantisemitism on their signature so I know they don’t hate me before they know my religion. I choose to just respect people and use the pronouns they prefer. I don’t feel I need to share mine. My name is an obvious female name.

Obvious to whom?

Not the PP but I'm assuming it's obvious to anyone who still chooses to use common sense.

I will support and use proper terminology for anyone who chooses to include that in the email or in conversation. I'm not against it at all.

I will not be forced into this virtue-signaling BS for myself. I am a woman, no one is confused about that. They do not need me to announce it intentionally in emails or verbally. Why would someone named Sarah who obviously is a woman, dresses like one, and sounds like one need to include she/her/hers??

It's stupid and pointless. But again, ask me to refer to you as anything you wish and I'll respect that and do it gladly.

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Anonymous wrote:I am queer and will never “proactively” share my pronouns. I’m a woman. It’s obvious. This is such virtue signaling bs I can’t even. This makes me so mad.

Why doesn’t it make you mad? The point is to do one small thing that can help make other people’s lives easier. Is it really that difficult to edit your email signature?

In real life, this has zero impact. It’s woke virtue signaling that I will not support.

What is “woke virtue signaling” in your view?

Leadership demanding that everyone share their pronouns so they can feel better about themselves.

Not sure I understand. PPs have explained how this helps people. Why are you opposed?

Because the people who write things like this assume to know what helps people.

I’m Jewish and I don’t expect people to write #fightantisemitism on their signature so I know they don’t hate me before they know my religion. I choose to just respect people and use the pronouns they prefer. I don’t feel I need to share mine. My name is an obvious female name.

Obvious to whom?

Not the PP but I'm assuming it's obvious to anyone who still chooses to use common sense.

I will support and use proper terminology for anyone who chooses to include that in the email or in conversation. I'm not against it at all.

I will not be forced into this virtue-signaling BS for myself. I am a woman, no one is confused about that. They do not need me to announce it intentionally in emails or verbally. Why would someone named Sarah who obviously is a woman, dresses like one, and sounds like one need to include she/her/hers??

It's stupid and pointless. But again, ask me to refer to you as anything you wish and I'll respect that and do it gladly.

Thanks.

It’s been obvious to all people I’ve met in 43 years on the planet and in every country I’ve visited, but I guess if someone incorrectly thought it was male I’d not be much offended.

Aren't we talking about emails?

Anonymous wrote:I personally hate people who hid their identity.

I don’t want to work at a place or do business with you if I don’t fit in.

I will say I am blank, I live in blank, I am married my wife is blank, I have three kids. Heck I don’t care you know my religion, age, sex life, what car I drive. I am cool with sharing everything.

I got a resume today. Was a name I can’t tell what it is, had no home address, had a cell number and throw away gmail.

People hide so much.

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Anonymous wrote:Yesterday my company had an Inclusivity training for managers, and during this training one of the topics discussed was micro aggressions in the workplace. The goal was to educate managers on all things that could be perceived as offensive to employees.

One thing that came up is the use of pronouns in our email signatures as well as when we introduce ourselves in meetings. The facilitator of the training said it’s offensive and unsupportive for ALL employees to not follow this protocol of including our pronouns.

The company asked us to start including/using them a year or so ago and maybe 50% of employees max do. I am one of the employees who does not list or proactively share my pronouns, which I feel is equally my right to do.

What I don’t understand is how this specific inaction OFFENDS others and looks like I am not supportive. As a straight female does listing she/her/hers indicate support? Overall my company is very inclusive and a decent number of employees are not straight, so this is definitely not just a handful of people being singled out.

Now we have all been asked again to add our pronouns by the end of the week or it will signal to employees that we don’t support equality or something like that. I truly don’t understand. Can someone enlighten me?

Again I am all for anyone listing their pronouns who wants to, I don’t understand why it’s essentially mandatory for all to do so.

Because Gen Z cares one heck of a lot and Gen Z is entering the workplace in droves and the race for talent is real.

Either get with the program or get gone. You’re likely too expensive anyway and no one cares if it makes you uncomfortable.

Anonymous wrote:OMG, like it harms you to be respectful of other people, especially in such a way that will take 3 minutes to set up in your signature and then give no more thought to it.

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Anonymous wrote:Wouldn't forcing people to do this also be a micro-aggression?

In what way?

Imagine you feel like your assigned gender doesn't quite fit, but you aren't yet sure whether you're a genderqueer man/woman, nonbinary, trans, or what. You're experimenting with different pronouns in your personal life but are not ready to commit to one set and come out at work. Should you be forced to come out, or commit to the "old" pronouns that feel wrong until you're more confident in a new choice? Does that policy feel supportive to you?

I’m confident that’s not the situation of anyone complaining in this thread.

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Anonymous wrote:Wouldn't forcing people to do this also be a micro-aggression?

In what way?

Imagine you feel like your assigned gender doesn't quite fit, but you aren't yet sure whether you're a genderqueer man/woman, nonbinary, trans, or what. You're experimenting with different pronouns in your personal life but are not ready to commit to one set and come out at work. Should you be forced to come out, or commit to the "old" pronouns that feel wrong until you're more confident in a new choice? Does that policy feel supportive to you?

People are writing emails. What pronouns shall they use to refer to you?

Anonymous wrote:I don’t include it because I really don’t care if anyone at work thinks that I am a man or a woman.