Anonymous
05/31/2023 13:30
Subject: Coming from a lowkey racist WASP family
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think everyone is somewhat racist.
We had DEI training a few years ago and the (Black) leader said that everybody is racist, no matter your color. The issue is how you recognize it in yourself and mitigate it.
Agree!
Anonymous
05/31/2023 13:27
Subject: Coming from a lowkey racist WASP family
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP did you think your family is more racist than others because they are white? I'm sure your girlfriend's parents made similar comments about you, especially if you have an obviously WASP name.
Only whites can be racist.
By definition, BIPOC peoples are incapable of racism.
Who gets to make that definition?
those who are marginalized. This is absolutely correct. Only whites can be racist.
I am a liberal, but this is one of those areas, like gender, where the new lefty shibboleths are so ridiculous that they are literally unbelievable. It is self-evident that non-whites can be racist. The evidence is there for all to see. Stop this nonsense, you are embarrassing yourself.
+100. Right up there with LatinX, which a niche of academia is trying to foist on Latinos who don’t want it.
Another progressive
Sorry, not sorry. It is blatant transphobia to refuse to use the correct term, LatinX.
No, it is blatant cultural colonialism to take an intrinsically gendered language and force it into gender neutral pronouns just bc a tiny subset of the population has gender identity issues. Every single noun in every romance language has a gender. Deal with it.
Anonymous
05/31/2023 13:25
Subject: Coming from a lowkey racist WASP family
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP did you think your family is more racist than others because they are white? I'm sure your girlfriend's parents made similar comments about you, especially if you have an obviously WASP name.
Only whites can be racist.
By definition, BIPOC peoples are incapable of racism.
Who gets to make that definition?
those who are marginalized. This is absolutely correct. Only whites can be racist.
I am a liberal, but this is one of those areas, like gender, where the new lefty shibboleths are so ridiculous that they are literally unbelievable. It is self-evident that non-whites can be racist. The evidence is there for all to see. Stop this nonsense, you are embarrassing yourself.
+100. Right up there with LatinX, which a niche of academia is trying to foist on Latinos who don’t want it.
Another progressive
The first/only person I heard explaining and advocating for the use of LatinX was a woman of Mexican descent. I agree it's a nonsolution, but there isn't a nonproblematic term for people from Mexico on south.
And to clarify, she was not an academic.
Anonymous
05/31/2023 13:24
Subject: Coming from a lowkey racist WASP family
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP did you think your family is more racist than others because they are white? I'm sure your girlfriend's parents made similar comments about you, especially if you have an obviously WASP name.
Only whites can be racist.
By definition, BIPOC peoples are incapable of racism.
Who gets to make that definition?
those who are marginalized. This is absolutely correct. Only whites can be racist.
I am a liberal, but this is one of those areas, like gender, where the new lefty shibboleths are so ridiculous that they are literally unbelievable. It is self-evident that non-whites can be racist. The evidence is there for all to see. Stop this nonsense, you are embarrassing yourself.
+100. Right up there with LatinX, which a niche of academia is trying to foist on Latinos who don’t want it.
Another progressive
The first/only person I heard explaining and advocating for the use of LatinX was a woman of Mexican descent. I agree it's a nonsolution, but there isn't a nonproblematic term for people from Mexico on south.
Anonymous
05/31/2023 13:10
Subject: Coming from a lowkey racist WASP family
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP did you think your family is more racist than others because they are white? I'm sure your girlfriend's parents made similar comments about you, especially if you have an obviously WASP name.
Only whites can be racist.
By definition, BIPOC peoples are incapable of racism.
Who gets to make that definition?
those who are marginalized. This is absolutely correct. Only whites can be racist.
I am a liberal, but this is one of those areas, like gender, where the new lefty shibboleths are so ridiculous that they are literally unbelievable. It is self-evident that non-whites can be racist. The evidence is there for all to see. Stop this nonsense, you are embarrassing yourself.
+100. Right up there with LatinX, which a niche of academia is trying to foist on Latinos who don’t want it.
Another progressive
Sorry, not sorry. It is blatant transphobia to refuse to use the correct term, LatinX.
I’m sorry, I don’t get it, but perhaps you can explain to me. If a male transitions to a female, why would they feel the object of phobia if they were called Latina?
Anonymous
05/31/2023 12:44
Subject: Coming from a lowkey racist WASP family
^ Guys, that person is trolling.
Anonymous
05/31/2023 12:27
Subject: Coming from a lowkey racist WASP family
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP did you think your family is more racist than others because they are white? I'm sure your girlfriend's parents made similar comments about you, especially if you have an obviously WASP name.
Only whites can be racist.
By definition, BIPOC peoples are incapable of racism.
Who gets to make that definition?
those who are marginalized. This is absolutely correct. Only whites can be racist.
I am a liberal, but this is one of those areas, like gender, where the new lefty shibboleths are so ridiculous that they are literally unbelievable. It is self-evident that non-whites can be racist. The evidence is there for all to see. Stop this nonsense, you are embarrassing yourself.
+100. Right up there with LatinX, which a niche of academia is trying to foist on Latinos who don’t want it.
Another progressive
Sorry, not sorry. It is blatant transphobia to refuse to use the correct term, LatinX.
This makes zero sense. Trans people apparently think being male versus women or vice versa is SOOOO important that they’ll get surgery, so you should go ahead and call them either Latina or Latino as the case may require. Latinx has nothing to do with it!
Anonymous
05/31/2023 11:46
Subject: Coming from a lowkey racist WASP family
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Fwiw, many ethnicities are like that and it's fine when they do it. The only problem is when white people do it
My grandmother refused to attend a cousins wedding because we are all Jewish and our cousin was not marrying a Jew. It was awful as our grandmother did not quietly protest (as if she had anything to protest) but instead made her "horror" known ever since the couple became engaged. The groom is one of the kinder men in our extended family.
It happens in so many families.
My husband and I were married by an ordained minister. My Jewish grandmother had a fit and kept saying, “This is so wrong, you should be getting married by a rabbi!”. She had no issue with my husband being Catholic and from South America, only that I was not going to do the traditional Jewish wedding or planning on raising our kids Jewish.
Anonymous
05/31/2023 11:30
Subject: Coming from a lowkey racist WASP family
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP did you think your family is more racist than others because they are white? I'm sure your girlfriend's parents made similar comments about you, especially if you have an obviously WASP name.
Only whites can be racist.
By definition, BIPOC peoples are incapable of racism.
Who gets to make that definition?
those who are marginalized. This is absolutely correct. Only whites can be racist.
I am a liberal, but this is one of those areas, like gender, where the new lefty shibboleths are so ridiculous that they are literally unbelievable. It is self-evident that non-whites can be racist. The evidence is there for all to see. Stop this nonsense, you are embarrassing yourself.
+100. Right up there with LatinX, which a niche of academia is trying to foist on Latinos who don’t want it.
Another progressive
Sorry, not sorry. It is blatant transphobia to refuse to use the correct term, LatinX.
Anonymous
05/31/2023 10:34
Subject: Coming from a lowkey racist WASP family
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There is nothing racist about white people commenting on the racist and problematic behavior of their own community. It’s being self-aware. If you have a problem with this, you should discover why. As for the other posts pointing out issues with other communities, start your own thread. This thread deals with WASPs.
For those who don’t think WASPs are racist, please explain to me why country clubs blocked memberships of minorities or different religions. Maybe the new breed of Episcopalians are more enlightened but the older generation were low key racists.
This point about older generations is largely correct. But not even universally. Our fancy local country club blocked Jews like our family doctor, so my parents joined the YMCA outdoor pool instead. They were Episcopalian, as were a number of the other Y members.
the price difference probably didn't hurt, either
Nope. Dad was a senior exec at a large national corporation.
PS. Another YMCA member was the Episcopalian CFO of the same corporation you’ve heard of. This was a very conscious decision to shun discrimination.
Anonymous
05/31/2023 10:30
Subject: Coming from a lowkey racist WASP family
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There is nothing racist about white people commenting on the racist and problematic behavior of their own community. It’s being self-aware. If you have a problem with this, you should discover why. As for the other posts pointing out issues with other communities, start your own thread. This thread deals with WASPs.
For those who don’t think WASPs are racist, please explain to me why country clubs blocked memberships of minorities or different religions. Maybe the new breed of Episcopalians are more enlightened but the older generation were low key racists.
This point about older generations is largely correct. But not even universally. Our fancy local country club blocked Jews like our family doctor, so my parents joined the YMCA outdoor pool instead. They were Episcopalian, as were a number of the other Y members.
the price difference probably didn't hurt, either
Nope. Dad was a senior exec at a large national corporation.
Anonymous
05/31/2023 10:27
Subject: Coming from a lowkey racist WASP family
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP did you think your family is more racist than others because they are white? I'm sure your girlfriend's parents made similar comments about you, especially if you have an obviously WASP name.
Only whites can be racist.
By definition, BIPOC peoples are incapable of racism.
Who gets to make that definition?
those who are marginalized. This is absolutely correct. Only whites can be racist.
I am a liberal, but this is one of those areas, like gender, where the new lefty shibboleths are so ridiculous that they are literally unbelievable. It is self-evident that non-whites can be racist. The evidence is there for all to see. Stop this nonsense, you are embarrassing yourself.
+100. Right up there with LatinX, which a niche of academia is trying to foist on Latinos who don’t want it.
Another progressive
Anonymous
05/31/2023 10:08
Subject: Coming from a lowkey racist WASP family
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:[google]Anonymous wrote:True WASPs aren't racist.
Laughable! WASP culture is absolutely racist.
No. True WASP culture is the type of Episcopalianism where you are very worried about racism and social justice but have no minority friends. It's about being overly obsequious to your housekeeper because she's "like family". It's about believing you couldn't possibly be racist because racism is a character flaw and WASPs don't have character flaws, they are the moral paradigms that all other Americans should strive to be.
LOL, this describes many Episcopalians I know.
Oh boy is this spot on!
Christians in general are racists.
You've obviously never lived in Muslim countries or East Asia. Or even in various African countries where people strongly discriminate against tribal origins and faith.
This conversation is about America.
The PP said Christians in general. Seems that's not what they meant.
Anonymous
05/31/2023 10:06
Subject: Coming from a lowkey racist WASP family
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:[google]Anonymous wrote:True WASPs aren't racist.
Laughable! WASP culture is absolutely racist.
No. True WASP culture is the type of Episcopalianism where you are very worried about racism and social justice but have no minority friends. It's about being overly obsequious to your housekeeper because she's "like family". It's about believing you couldn't possibly be racist because racism is a character flaw and WASPs don't have character flaws, they are the moral paradigms that all other Americans should strive to be.
LOL, this describes many Episcopalians I know.
Oh boy is this spot on!
Christians in general are racists.
You've obviously never lived in Muslim countries or East Asia. Or even in various African countries where people strongly discriminate against tribal origins and faith.
This conversation is about America.
Anonymous
05/31/2023 10:06
Subject: Coming from a lowkey racist WASP family
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP did you think your family is more racist than others because they are white? I'm sure your girlfriend's parents made similar comments about you, especially if you have an obviously WASP name.
Only whites can be racist.
By definition, BIPOC peoples are incapable of racism.
Who gets to make that definition?
those who are marginalized. This is absolutely correct. Only whites can be racist.
I am a liberal, but this is one of those areas, like gender, where the new lefty shibboleths are so ridiculous that they are literally unbelievable. It is self-evident that non-whites can be racist. The evidence is there for all to see. Stop this nonsense, you are embarrassing yourself.
You need to report to the nearest reeducation center.
Bravo!