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Anonymous wrote:And thanks to taxes we have better services than many other places.

Suits me.

Are the services in MoCo actually any better than Fairfax? The school systems seem pretty similar. No apparent differences in police or fire or roads. They actually have a better county park system with lots of youth fields, much better than ours. What are we getting for all these extra taxes?

Police services were cut to make room for raises. Fire was not. Don't know about transportation.

Anonymous wrote:And thanks to taxes we have better services than many other places.

Suits me.

We are? Mcps are going down the toilet.

Anonymous wrote:And thanks to taxes we have better services than many other places.

Suits me.

Are the services in MoCo actually any better than Fairfax? The school systems seem pretty similar. No apparent differences in police or fire or roads. They actually have a better county park system with lots of youth fields, much better than ours. What are we getting for all these extra taxes?

Anonymous wrote:I think the PP is on to something and this is why the Democratic Central Committee in MoCo was sounding the alarm. They will be crushed in the next election and will really miss the days of David Blair.

VA used to be VERY red so the choice was easier. But now it's purple, their schools are better and their jobs and taxation are better. It's a no-brainer. No amount of tree canopy in Bethesda can stand the steady tax increases .

I think the PP is on to something and this is why the Democratic Central Committee in MoCo was sounding the alarm. They will be crushed in the next election and will really miss the days of David Blair.

VA used to be VERY red so the choice was easier. But now it's purple, their schools are better and their jobs and taxation are better. It's a no-brainer. No amount of tree canopy in Bethesda can stand the steady tax increases .

Montgomery County is like Europe. It has a long entrenched social democratic ideological government that is realizing that eventually you run out of rich people to tax, especially with open borders. Since a county doesn’t have a border to keep people in/out, rich people move out and poor people move in.
What we saw in Europe with irresponsible spending and open borders is a hard shift to the right. I think Montgomery county is in for a political reckoning and the pendulum will swing at least away from the far left. The best case scenario would be to get a sensible moderate like David Blair but I actually wouldn’t be surprised if the pendulum really swung and Montgomery County started electing some Republicans.

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Anonymous wrote:Rich white people are snowflakes apparently.

Ok? Where do you propose getting money from?

Rich white people are snowflakes who overrate their own importance.

Okay, we'll just fund the schools with your disdain and snark, perfect.

"We" who?

Montgomery County? Who do you think funds the schools?

Everyone who pays taxes in Montgomery County.

Oh suddenly everyone pays taxes? I thought only rich people did and that's why it's okay to raise the tax rate 10% in an inflationary environment during an affordable housing crisis.

Yes, everyone pays taxes. The rest of your statement is a hodgepodge of catch phrases.

Yes, everyone pays taxes, I completely agree with you. But wealthy people contribute much larger sums than middle class or low income people. We want them to stay. Montgomery County relies on the revenues from rich people. If you can offer a different paradigm for funding our schools and public services please feel free to share that.

DP here. The majority of tax revenves come from the middle class, just because there are so much more of them than the rich.

Factually false with respect to income taxes. At the Federal level, in 2018, top 1% paid over 40% of all individual income taxes, which was an increase from 33% in 2001. The top 50% paid 97% of all individual income taxes. Bottom 50% paid 3%. Top 1% paid more taxes than bottom 90% combined. Read these numbers carefully. They are the reality, and CA and NYC very much are aware of this reality. Social programs are funded by the rich!

Since presumably the rich live in more expensive residences and presumably consume more, they no doubt pay higher property taxes and more sales taxes, though no doubt those percentages are not as extreme. As noted before, MoCo needs more rich people, and has a real opportunity to attract more with sensible radically moderate policies, not left wing silliness.

https://taxfoundation.org/federal-income-tax-data-2021/

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Anonymous wrote:Rich white people are snowflakes apparently.

Ok? Where do you propose getting money from?

Rich white people are snowflakes who overrate their own importance.

Okay, we'll just fund the schools with your disdain and snark, perfect.

"We" who?

Montgomery County? Who do you think funds the schools?

Everyone who pays taxes in Montgomery County.

Oh suddenly everyone pays taxes? I thought only rich people did and that's why it's okay to raise the tax rate 10% in an inflationary environment during an affordable housing crisis.

Yes, everyone pays taxes. The rest of your statement is a hodgepodge of catch phrases.

Yes, everyone pays taxes, I completely agree with you. But wealthy people contribute much larger sums than middle class or low income people. We want them to stay. Montgomery County relies on the revenues from rich people. If you can offer a different paradigm for funding our schools and public services please feel free to share that.

"We" who? I don't have a problem with rich people, per se. I have a problem with rich people who say, "You have to institute the policies I want, because otherwise I will take my $$$ and go somewhere else!" We all pay taxes. Their money isn't more important than anybody else's, and neither are they.

Yes, but each wealthy household contributes more dollars than each middle class household. Plus, we aren't adding any middle class households. All of our household growth is in very rich and very poor households. Who is going to pay for all of poor people coming in? Rich people, who are going to increasingly reject tax increases.

That's between rich people and their consciences. If they can't recognize that we're all better off - including rich people - when we're all better off, they can go live somewhere else.

I don't think you fully understand how the county budget works. But in any case, I hope you can recognize that "everyone pays taxes" means that increasing taxes has an impact on everyone.

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Anonymous wrote:Rich white people are snowflakes apparently.

Ok? Where do you propose getting money from?

Rich white people are snowflakes who overrate their own importance.

Okay, we'll just fund the schools with your disdain and snark, perfect.

"We" who?

Montgomery County? Who do you think funds the schools?

Everyone who pays taxes in Montgomery County.

Oh suddenly everyone pays taxes? I thought only rich people did and that's why it's okay to raise the tax rate 10% in an inflationary environment during an affordable housing crisis.

Yes, everyone pays taxes. The rest of your statement is a hodgepodge of catch phrases.

Yes, everyone pays taxes, I completely agree with you. But wealthy people contribute much larger sums than middle class or low income people. We want them to stay. Montgomery County relies on the revenues from rich people. If you can offer a different paradigm for funding our schools and public services please feel free to share that.

"We" who? I don't have a problem with rich people, per se. I have a problem with rich people who say, "You have to institute the policies I want, because otherwise I will take my $$$ and go somewhere else!" We all pay taxes. Their money isn't more important than anybody else's, and neither are they.

Yes, but each wealthy household contributes more dollars than each middle class household. Plus, we aren't adding any middle class households. All of our household growth is in very rich and very poor households. Who is going to pay for all of poor people coming in? Rich people, who are going to increasingly reject tax increases.

That's between rich people and their consciences. If they can't recognize that we're all better off - including rich people - when we're all better off, they can go live somewhere else.

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Anonymous wrote:Rich white people are snowflakes apparently.

Ok? Where do you propose getting money from?

Rich white people are snowflakes who overrate their own importance.

Okay, we'll just fund the schools with your disdain and snark, perfect.

"We" who?

Montgomery County? Who do you think funds the schools?

Everyone who pays taxes in Montgomery County.

Oh suddenly everyone pays taxes? I thought only rich people did and that's why it's okay to raise the tax rate 10% in an inflationary environment during an affordable housing crisis.

Yes, everyone pays taxes. The rest of your statement is a hodgepodge of catch phrases.

Yes, everyone pays taxes, I completely agree with you. But wealthy people contribute much larger sums than middle class or low income people. We want them to stay. Montgomery County relies on the revenues from rich people. If you can offer a different paradigm for funding our schools and public services please feel free to share that.

"We" who? I don't have a problem with rich people, per se. I have a problem with rich people who say, "You have to institute the policies I want, because otherwise I will take my $$$ and go somewhere else!" We all pay taxes. Their money isn't more important than anybody else's, and neither are they.

Yes, but each wealthy household contributes more dollars than each middle class household. Plus, we aren't adding any middle class households. All of our household growth is in very rich and very poor households. Who is going to pay for all of poor people coming in? Rich people, who are going to increasingly reject tax increases.

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Anonymous wrote:Rich white people are snowflakes apparently.

Ok? Where do you propose getting money from?

Rich white people are snowflakes who overrate their own importance.

Okay, we'll just fund the schools with your disdain and snark, perfect.

"We" who?

Montgomery County? Who do you think funds the schools?

Everyone who pays taxes in Montgomery County.

Oh suddenly everyone pays taxes? I thought only rich people did and that's why it's okay to raise the tax rate 10% in an inflationary environment during an affordable housing crisis.

Yes, everyone pays taxes. The rest of your statement is a hodgepodge of catch phrases.

Yes, everyone pays taxes, I completely agree with you. But wealthy people contribute much larger sums than middle class or low income people. We want them to stay. Montgomery County relies on the revenues from rich people. If you can offer a different paradigm for funding our schools and public services please feel free to share that.

"We" who? I don't have a problem with rich people, per se. I have a problem with rich people who say, "You have to institute the policies I want, because otherwise I will take my $$$ and go somewhere else!" We all pay taxes. Their money isn't more important than anybody else's, and neither are they.

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Anonymous wrote:Rich white people are snowflakes apparently.

Ok? Where do you propose getting money from?

Rich white people are snowflakes who overrate their own importance.

Okay, we'll just fund the schools with your disdain and snark, perfect.

"We" who?

Montgomery County? Who do you think funds the schools?

Everyone who pays taxes in Montgomery County.

Oh suddenly everyone pays taxes? I thought only rich people did and that's why it's okay to raise the tax rate 10% in an inflationary environment during an affordable housing crisis.

Yes, everyone pays taxes. The rest of your statement is a hodgepodge of catch phrases.

Yes, everyone pays taxes, I completely agree with you. But wealthy people contribute much larger sums than middle class or low income people. We want them to stay. Montgomery County relies on the revenues from rich people. If you can offer a different paradigm for funding our schools and public services please feel free to share that.

DP here. The majority of tax revenves come from the middle class, just because there are so much more of them than the rich.

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Anonymous wrote:Rich white people are snowflakes apparently.

Ok? Where do you propose getting money from?

Rich white people are snowflakes who overrate their own importance.

Okay, we'll just fund the schools with your disdain and snark, perfect.

"We" who?

Montgomery County? Who do you think funds the schools?

Everyone who pays taxes in Montgomery County.

Oh suddenly everyone pays taxes? I thought only rich people did and that's why it's okay to raise the tax rate 10% in an inflationary environment during an affordable housing crisis.

Yes, everyone pays taxes. The rest of your statement is a hodgepodge of catch phrases.

Yes, everyone pays taxes, I completely agree with you. But wealthy people contribute much larger sums than middle class or low income people. We want them to stay. Montgomery County relies on the revenues from rich people. If you can offer a different paradigm for funding our schools and public services please feel free to share that.

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If you prefer living somewhere where you need to pay for every single separate service, like garbage removal, and where schools are cesspools with no decent curriculum, and where there are no social services for the poor, and no money for cultural endeavors and libraries, then by all means, move to a lower-tax state.

What you may not perceive from your vantage point of self-absorption, is that the more taxes are spent to benefit the population and lift up those with needs, the safer and better-off everyone is... even the ones who are not recipients of some of these services. Otherwise you let inequality fester, and all the problems it entails.

I've lived in such a place.in the deep.south, we had to haul.our own trash to the dump because there were no services. And the schools were awful.

I will gladly pay a little more.

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If you prefer living somewhere where you need to pay for every single separate service, like garbage removal, and where schools are cesspools with no decent curriculum, and where there are no social services for the poor, and no money for cultural endeavors and libraries, then by all means, move to a lower-tax state.

What you may not perceive from your vantage point of self-absorption, is that the more taxes are spent to benefit the population and lift up those with needs, the safer and better-off everyone is... even the ones who are not recipients of some of these services. Otherwise you let inequality fester, and all the problems it entails.

Inequality will fester here regardless since it’s a sanctuary county and disproportionate destination for the world’s downtrodden.

Ha ha ha!

Oh, my poor dear. You don't know what you're talking about. Montgomery County is one of the richest counties of the USA, one with a lot of social services the county can afford, since it's wealthy, and where inequality is low (for a American location; we're not at the level of European socialservices, and yet they have a ton of migrants too!).

The next decades won't change that, because the wealth comes proximity to the center of power.

No. Montgomery County is slipping further and further behind. I bet within the next five years MoCo will be the poorest in the region and have the worst economy in the region. Elrich has been in county government for 20 years which has directly correlated with MoCo economic decline. Unsurprising for a guy who emulates Hugo Chavez

I wouldn't mind it as much if the school served all students instead of exclusively focusing on those below grade level. Sure, they need help but everyone else just gets ignored and learns nothing.

Everyone else gets ignored and learns nothing? Wow.