Anonymous
Post 05/18/2023 13:10     Subject: Woman raped and robbed on northwest branch trail

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm not second guessing how these women reacted to be robbed at machete blade and one being dragged away. No one can say how they would react in that situation. I would like to think I would fight my hardest to avoid being dragged off or to stop a man from dragging my friend off. I'm going to have a talk with my hiking buddy and find out if she's willing to risk her life to save mine. I'd like to believe I would risk mine to save her.


When this thread first appeared, those of who said pretty much the same thing-fight back, do not let yourself get taken off that path--had our posts removed. Evidently, you can't even tell women to fight back now. I have no doubt in my mind that that man would never have gotten me off that trail if it were me. Of course, not blaming the victim, at all, but my husband and I have taught our teenage daughter how to defend herself and I know she would. With what the city is coming to, we have no choice.


Yes you are.


Do you believe in taking any safety precautions at all?


Person responsible for the attack: the attacker
Person not responsible for the attack: the victim, no matter what safety precautions the victim may or may not have taken
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2023 13:08     Subject: Woman raped and robbed on northwest branch trail

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My niece was stalked by a rapist from Maryland who got off easy. He should be in jail for life. DC won't keep him behind bars either.


The maximum sentences are rarely given out, and they are rarely life (in MD, only 1st degree rape is eligible for life sentences).

Various groups, typically on the left, have come out against harsh sentences for felonies.

Let them experience the consequences of their voting choices.


OMG this is not true. Quote any MoCo politician ever saying we should not give maximum sentences to rapists. You can’t because it’s jot true that MoCo wants to be soft on crime. You guys keep lying over and over.


Council Members Jawando and Mink have introduced the STEP act:

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/council/Resources/Files/agenda/col/2023/20230228/20230228_2B.pdf

This would prevent police from doing traffic stops for infrations like expired registration and defective lights.

It's done for racial equity:

"The purpose of this bill is to promote fairness by reducing racial disparities that occur
during a traffic stop"

Yet, many traffic stops result in the seizure of weapons and drugs. For example this one that got fentanyl and crystal meth out of a dealer's hands before it could reach the victims:
https://www2.montgomerycountymd.gov/mcgportalapps/Press_Detail_Pol.aspx?Item_ID=43029

I agree it's unlikely a MoCo politician is on record for reducing the penalty for rape (which anyway is set by the state, not county, so they have no control) but they are most certainly in favor of less enforcement of crimes generally.
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2023 13:05     Subject: Woman raped and robbed on northwest branch trail

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm not second guessing how these women reacted to be robbed at machete blade and one being dragged away. No one can say how they would react in that situation. I would like to think I would fight my hardest to avoid being dragged off or to stop a man from dragging my friend off. I'm going to have a talk with my hiking buddy and find out if she's willing to risk her life to save mine. I'd like to believe I would risk mine to save her.


When this thread first appeared, those of who said pretty much the same thing-fight back, do not let yourself get taken off that path--had our posts removed. Evidently, you can't even tell women to fight back now. I have no doubt in my mind that that man would never have gotten me off that trail if it were me. Of course, not blaming the victim, at all, but my husband and I have taught our teenage daughter how to defend herself and I know she would. With what the city is coming to, we have no choice.


Yes you are.


Do you believe in taking any safety precautions at all?
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2023 13:02     Subject: Woman raped and robbed on northwest branch trail

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm not second guessing how these women reacted to be robbed at machete blade and one being dragged away. No one can say how they would react in that situation. I would like to think I would fight my hardest to avoid being dragged off or to stop a man from dragging my friend off. I'm going to have a talk with my hiking buddy and find out if she's willing to risk her life to save mine. I'd like to believe I would risk mine to save her.


When this thread first appeared, those of who said pretty much the same thing-fight back, do not let yourself get taken off that path--had our posts removed. Evidently, you can't even tell women to fight back now. I have no doubt in my mind that that man would never have gotten me off that trail if it were me. Of course, not blaming the victim, at all, but my husband and I have taught our teenage daughter how to defend herself and I know she would. With what the city is coming to, we have no choice.


Yes you are.
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2023 12:38     Subject: Woman raped and robbed on northwest branch trail

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I stopped walking (I’m not a runner) alone on trails, even near Beach Drive in Rock Creek unless it’s a weekend and they’re pretty populated.


My teen DD was stopped and harassed, including physical touching, by a mid-20s male on the walking path in Beach Drive right by the playground at the intersection of Beach and Garrett Park Rd. The local police and the park police both responded, and told us that girls and young women shouldn't trust any part of the walking path to be safe at any time of day. They recommended it always going in at least pairs and never wearing headphones. They also recommended getting a large dog to walk with.


Sorry she went through that.

It stinks because it sounds like these women WERE actually walking ‘in pairs’. Are we not allowed to even walk with other women anymore. What? Now we need male escorts to ensure our safety while walking on a trail?

I come from a country where many men think it’s acceptable to harass or touch women they don’t know. I have told my daughter to never walk with headphones and now told her to at least carry mace.

If you see something suspect, keep the mace in your pocket, with your finger on the trigger. At the very least, it could buy you some time or let you scream for help.

This sucks.
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2023 12:30     Subject: Woman raped and robbed on northwest branch trail

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Arrest made. Apparently he tried to carjack someone


Anyone want to bet?

- he has a very long criminal history, and would otherwise be in prison, but some local soft-on-crime prosecutor this rapist back on our streets, to rape, carjack, and rob.

Why do people vote for these prosecutors and legislators??


This response is rude-republicans worship themselves so much they make themselves the salve for every despair and and problem; you can't help it, it is your religion and hope


Conversely, progressive justice reform touted by liberals, and overwhelmingly the DC city council, does result in policies like the Youth Rehabiliation Act which shields criminals records, the second look act, the fact that speeders with thousands of dollars of speeding tickets can keep their license without issue, that violent teens get a slap on the wrist for theft and robbery, I mean all these lenient policies stem from this liberal idea against incarceration to a more restorative, holistic form of criminal justice. It’s weak on crime. Also, the liberal DA here has, by Wapo fact checking, declined to prosecute 67% of crimes. So I’m sorry but you are wrong. Republicans are tougher on crime. I’m sorry you don’t like reality.
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2023 12:22     Subject: Woman raped and robbed on northwest branch trail

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm not second guessing how these women reacted to be robbed at machete blade and one being dragged away. No one can say how they would react in that situation. I would like to think I would fight my hardest to avoid being dragged off or to stop a man from dragging my friend off. I'm going to have a talk with my hiking buddy and find out if she's willing to risk her life to save mine. I'd like to believe I would risk mine to save her.


When this thread first appeared, those of who said pretty much the same thing-fight back, do not let yourself get taken off that path--had our posts removed. Evidently, you can't even tell women to fight back now. I have no doubt in my mind that that man would never have gotten me off that trail if it were me. Of course, not blaming the victim, at all, but my husband and I have taught our teenage daughter how to defend herself and I know she would. With what the city is coming to, we have no choice.


The guy had a MACHETE, good luck with that.

And, yes, you are victim-blaming.


Bring a gun to your next knife fight. We will not get protection from politicians or the police. It’s DIY.
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2023 11:58     Subject: Woman raped and robbed on northwest branch trail

Anonymous wrote:I stopped walking (I’m not a runner) alone on trails, even near Beach Drive in Rock Creek unless it’s a weekend and they’re pretty populated.


My teen DD was stopped and harassed, including physical touching, by a mid-20s male on the walking path in Beach Drive right by the playground at the intersection of Beach and Garrett Park Rd. The local police and the park police both responded, and told us that girls and young women shouldn't trust any part of the walking path to be safe at any time of day. They recommended always going in at least pairs and never wearing headphones. They also recommended getting a large dog to walk with.
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2023 09:30     Subject: Woman raped and robbed on northwest branch trail

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm not second guessing how these women reacted to be robbed at machete blade and one being dragged away. No one can say how they would react in that situation. I would like to think I would fight my hardest to avoid being dragged off or to stop a man from dragging my friend off. I'm going to have a talk with my hiking buddy and find out if she's willing to risk her life to save mine. I'd like to believe I would risk mine to save her.


When this thread first appeared, those of who said pretty much the same thing-fight back, do not let yourself get taken off that path--had our posts removed. Evidently, you can't even tell women to fight back now. I have no doubt in my mind that that man would never have gotten me off that trail if it were me. Of course, not blaming the victim, at all, but my husband and I have taught our teenage daughter how to defend herself and I know she would. With what the city is coming to, we have no choice.


The guy had a MACHETE, good luck with that.

And, yes, you are victim-blaming.
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2023 09:07     Subject: Woman raped and robbed on northwest branch trail

Anonymous wrote:I'm not second guessing how these women reacted to be robbed at machete blade and one being dragged away. No one can say how they would react in that situation. I would like to think I would fight my hardest to avoid being dragged off or to stop a man from dragging my friend off. I'm going to have a talk with my hiking buddy and find out if she's willing to risk her life to save mine. I'd like to believe I would risk mine to save her.


When this thread first appeared, those of who said pretty much the same thing-fight back, do not let yourself get taken off that path--had our posts removed. Evidently, you can't even tell women to fight back now. I have no doubt in my mind that that man would never have gotten me off that trail if it were me. Of course, not blaming the victim, at all, but my husband and I have taught our teenage daughter how to defend herself and I know she would. With what the city is coming to, we have no choice.
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2023 08:31     Subject: Woman raped and robbed on northwest branch trail

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My niece was stalked by a rapist from Maryland who got off easy. He should be in jail for life. DC won't keep him behind bars either.


The maximum sentences are rarely given out, and they are rarely life (in MD, only 1st degree rape is eligible for life sentences).

Various groups, typically on the left, have come out against harsh sentences for felonies.

Let them experience the consequences of their voting choices.


On its face, I would agree with this. But overwhelmingly, the people who suffer from the increased crime are lower-income people of color. The UMC white "allies" generally do not.


+1
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2023 08:29     Subject: Woman raped and robbed on northwest branch trail

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My niece was stalked by a rapist from Maryland who got off easy. He should be in jail for life. DC won't keep him behind bars either.


The maximum sentences are rarely given out, and they are rarely life (in MD, only 1st degree rape is eligible for life sentences).

Various groups, typically on the left, have come out against harsh sentences for felonies.

Let them experience the consequences of their voting choices.


OMG this is not true. Quote any MoCo politician ever saying we should not give maximum sentences to rapists. You can’t because it’s jot true that MoCo wants to be soft on crime. You guys keep lying over and over.
Anonymous
Post 05/18/2023 06:41     Subject: Woman raped and robbed on northwest branch trail

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My niece was stalked by a rapist from Maryland who got off easy. He should be in jail for life. DC won't keep him behind bars either.


The maximum sentences are rarely given out, and they are rarely life (in MD, only 1st degree rape is eligible for life sentences).

Various groups, typically on the left, have come out against harsh sentences for felonies.

Let them experience the consequences of their voting choices.


On its face, I would agree with this. But overwhelmingly, the people who suffer from the increased crime are lower-income people of color. The UMC white "allies" generally do not.
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2023 20:06     Subject: Re:Woman raped and robbed on northwest branch trail

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Machetes are becoming very popular these days for committing violent crime.


It is a very Central American thing. Always has been.

True. Maybe a recent immigrant?
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2023 20:03     Subject: Woman raped and robbed on northwest branch trail

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My niece was stalked by a rapist from Maryland who got off easy. He should be in jail for life. DC won't keep him behind bars either.


The maximum sentences are rarely given out, and they are rarely life (in MD, only 1st degree rape is eligible for life sentences).

Various groups, typically on the left, have come out against harsh sentences for felonies.

Let them experience the consequences of their voting choices.