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Anonymous wrote:Understand that the teachers are poorly paid, may not be certified in the area in which they are teaching, are forbidden from being gay, likely have terrible health care, and have no organization to back them up if they have a mean principal. I would look for a regular private school.

At many regular probates, teachers are still:
-poorly paid
-may not be certified in the area in which they are teaching
-likely have terrible health care
-have no organization to back them up if they have a mean principal

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Anonymous wrote:I would deeply investigate what they do to protect kids against sexual assault.

You mean as compared to the sovereign immunity-protected public schools where the abuse problem (1) remains current, unlike Catholic schools with extremely effective protective programs; and (2) the (ongoing) abuse is estimated to be 100x the alleged problems of the past in Catholic institutions?

Look it up yourself.

Catholic entities have state of the art child protection programs, including training in spotting grooming and indicia of abuse. Teachers, staff, religious workers, parents, anyone with child contact has to go through training with refreshers. The standard of proof for a “credible” accusation is more or less whether it was impossible for the alleged conduct to occur, for example if the accused was on a different continent at all relevant times and can document that. Short of that level of defense, even the least plausible accusation imaginable is career ending.

So I’m answer to your request for comparison, Catholic schools are not merely degrees better, they are operating in an entirely different universe where child protection is at the forefront.

And you may not be interested in liability, but plenty of people who see an easy mark with a history of paying huge sums instead of defending even obviously specious claims are interested in that.

I’m relatively disinterested in whether we can sue and highly interested in what is being done to prevent. You haven’t actually answered the question about what they do and how it compares to public school.

Whose estimate is this “100X”? Citation please.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would deeply investigate what they do to protect kids against sexual assault.

You mean as compared to the sovereign immunity-protected public schools where the abuse problem (1) remains current, unlike Catholic schools with extremely effective protective programs; and (2) the (ongoing) abuse is estimated to be 100x the alleged problems of the past in Catholic institutions?

I’m relatively disinterested in whether we can sue and highly interested in what is being done to prevent. You haven’t actually answered the question about what they do and how it compares to public school.

Whose estimate is this “100X”? Citation please.

All staff and every parent who volunteers with kids goes through training related to safeguarding children from sexual abuse. There are policies in place to ensure that children are not alone with adults and even the appearance of impropriety is avoided. I received similar required training from Boy Scouts. There are also background checks required to be a volunteer. I’m not aware of a similar requirement for volunteers in public schools, but maybe it does exist.

Anonymous wrote:Understand that the teachers are poorly paid, may not be certified in the area in which they are teaching, are forbidden from being gay, likely have terrible health care, and have no organization to back them up if they have a mean principal. I would look for a regular private school.

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Anonymous wrote:OP,
I just read through this thread. It’s filled with a ton of misinformation.
1. Catholic schools teach Science. Catholics are not Creationists. Your child will learn evolution.
2. Catholic school teachers may be paid less, but they are often state certified and many are former public school teachers who got sick of their districts. (I should know. I was a former public school teacher and I now teach in a Catholic school. I got sick of admin / mismanagement, so I left and took my own kids to Catholic schools.)
3. Catholic schools are very on top of student safety. I attend more trainings and am held to higher standards regarding what I can/cannot do around children. This is most definitely a reaction to the Catholic priest scandals.

There’s more I caught, but I hope you get the point. Expect a lot of family involvement, which I consider a good thing. Expect more rigid rules, which I also consider a good thing. It will be a transition, but probably not as hard as you may be imagining.

OP here, thanks for this. i knew when i posted this there would be some of the usual Catholic bashing, so i am ignoring those posters. I appreciate your input and the tips i have gotten.

Just don’t be LGBTQ or a single parent and you’ll be okay.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP,
I just read through this thread. It’s filled with a ton of misinformation.
1. Catholic schools teach Science. Catholics are not Creationists. Your child will learn evolution.
2. Catholic school teachers may be paid less, but they are often state certified and many are former public school teachers who got sick of their districts. (I should know. I was a former public school teacher and I now teach in a Catholic school. I got sick of admin / mismanagement, so I left and took my own kids to Catholic schools.)
3. Catholic schools are very on top of student safety. I attend more trainings and am held to higher standards regarding what I can/cannot do around children. This is most definitely a reaction to the Catholic priest scandals.

There’s more I caught, but I hope you get the point. Expect a lot of family involvement, which I consider a good thing. Expect more rigid rules, which I also consider a good thing. It will be a transition, but probably not as hard as you may be imagining.

OP here, thanks for this. i knew when i posted this there would be some of the usual Catholic bashing, so i am ignoring those posters. I appreciate your input and the tips i have gotten.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would deeply investigate what they do to protect kids against sexual assault.

You mean as compared to the sovereign immunity-protected public schools where the abuse problem (1) remains current, unlike Catholic schools with extremely effective protective programs; and (2) the (ongoing) abuse is estimated to be 100x the alleged problems of the past in Catholic institutions?

I’m relatively disinterested in whether we can sue and highly interested in what is being done to prevent. You haven’t actually answered the question about what they do and how it compares to public school.

Whose estimate is this “100X”? Citation please.

Anonymous wrote:OP,
I just read through this thread. It’s filled with a ton of misinformation.
1. Catholic schools teach Science. Catholics are not Creationists. Your child will learn evolution.
2. Catholic school teachers may be paid less, but they are often state certified and many are former public school teachers who got sick of their districts. (I should know. I was a former public school teacher and I now teach in a Catholic school. I got sick of admin / mismanagement, so I left and took my own kids to Catholic schools.)
3. Catholic schools are very on top of student safety. I attend more trainings and am held to higher standards regarding what I can/cannot do around children. This is most definitely a reaction to the Catholic priest scandals.

There’s more I caught, but I hope you get the point. Expect a lot of family involvement, which I consider a good thing. Expect more rigid rules, which I also consider a good thing. It will be a transition, but probably not as hard as you may be imagining.

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Anonymous wrote:Definitely look into the schools, esp high schools. Some of the Catholic schools around here are filled with all the kids that got kicked out of public school and had to find a Catholic school. Paul VI used to be known as the school where all the bad kids went when they got expelled from the public schools (don't know if it's still that way, but was a few years ago).

Interesting blanket statement

It's not a blanket statement, it is specific to this area actually. And I even narrowed it down to a specific school that I have experience with.

My spouse moved from another area of the country where the public schools are terrible so everyone sent their kids to Catholic schools. Having grown up in this area, I've seen that all the kids I knew that got expelled from public school went to a Catholic school because for the most part, it was the only viable option since private schools (non-religious) cost a ton more.

I thought the argument against private schools is that they can pick and choose who to enroll and publics have to take everyone. Where are these public schools kicking kids out left and right?

Were you not aware that public school can expel people?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Definitely look into the schools, esp high schools. Some of the Catholic schools around here are filled with all the kids that got kicked out of public school and had to find a Catholic school. Paul VI used to be known as the school where all the bad kids went when they got expelled from the public schools (don't know if it's still that way, but was a few years ago).

Interesting blanket statement

It's not a blanket statement, it is specific to this area actually. And I even narrowed it down to a specific school that I have experience with.

My spouse moved from another area of the country where the public schools are terrible so everyone sent their kids to Catholic schools. Having grown up in this area, I've seen that all the kids I knew that got expelled from public school went to a Catholic school because for the most part, it was the only viable option since private schools (non-religious) cost a ton more.

I thought the argument against private schools is that they can pick and choose who to enroll and publics have to take everyone. Where are these public schools kicking kids out left and right?

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Anonymous wrote:I would deeply investigate what they do to protect kids against sexual assault.

You mean as compared to the sovereign immunity-protected public schools where the abuse problem (1) remains current, unlike Catholic schools with extremely effective protective programs; and (2) the (ongoing) abuse is estimated to be 100x the alleged problems of the past in Catholic institutions?

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I can't think of any situation where I would send a junior high or high school student to Catholic school. I prefer my children understand basic sexual education and their bodies.

So, what you’re saying is that as a parent you are incapable of conveying this information.

I think everyone in a school should be conveyed that information.

When was the last time you set foot in or near any Catholic school to be speaking as if you're an authority? Was it in the 60's?

How many teach about how to access condoms & birth control?