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Anonymous wrote:“Reducing funding” as far as I understand it (and I sat through a 3 hour candidate forum yesterday afternoon where this came up) is more about trying to involve mental health professionals in the huge percentage of calls where that is what is needed vs police coming in to arrest people.

Crime is escalating out of control. We don't have enough mental health professionals in the world to contain the problem. This is not a viable plan and EVERYONE knows that.

No one said cut all police funding. It is more about trying to balance funding a little.

Rs love to talk about mental health yet put no dollars behind it

You're right, no one said that, so why are you saying that?

We should not be reducing police funding for some quixotic attempt at using therapists to solve the issues in our communities. One, because we don't have enough of them, and two, because this is experimental and hasn't been done anywhere at the scale being attempted here.

We need to use proven policing strategies and get this back in order. We aren't safe anymore.

We aren't safe because way too many people have guns.

Find a country on the planet that has as many gun deaths as we do. You can't.

Why? Because NO OTHER COUNTRY LETS ANYONE GET GUNS.

Too many guns makes no one safe. Period.

You are full of it because you don't take but one number into account. Typical MSM spin on a false claim, how the hell do we end up 32nd then:

"The U.S. has the 32nd-highest rate of deaths from gun violence in the world"

Mexico, our southern boarder which is open to everyone doesn't allow citizens to own but a 22LR or less but yet has 4x the amount of gun deaths per capita. How about we arrest people that lie on a 4473, looking at you Hunter. Maybe you should tell your democratic DA's they should hold people that commit crimes, they even let people with a gun crime loose on the street:

"Woke St. Louis DA refuses to charge armed robbery suspect who tried to CARJACK marked police car and pointed gun at officers inside"

That will work out well.

Chicago has had 88 mass shootings or more this year, only 19 weeks in. They have some of the strictest gun laws but yet rack up stats like this. That is more than 4 per week, but you don't see the media say a peep about it because it doesn't fit the narrative.

Until you hand out a punishment for the crime when bad people will do bad things this will continue. Then you want to punish the 99% of gun owners that obey the laws and actually have saved quite a few people from violent crimes, many from criminals they let back out on the streets. Keep telling yourself lies but when the truth comes and smacks you in the face, you only have yourself to blame for falling all over the MSM propaganda.

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Anonymous wrote:Was it "mental health" again? Ugh... that damn mental health!

More guns for everyone! Guns! Guns! Guns!

Meanwhile, let’s cut Medicaid & increase work requirements for food stamps. That won’t plunge people into further despair or anything!

. what's wrong with requirements of work? isn't the whole point to eventually get off the dole and WORK?

Did I fact check those items? No. Just the two sentences that I pulled directly from your original post that were NOT right.

Please just admit those sentences were incorrect and move on.

I AM on the side of gun control. Biden was my senator when he got the AWB through. I attended the Million Mom March after Columbine (I was early 20s and working in Congress). I have worn a red shirt multiple times, including lobbying in Richmond to stop the Rs from passing stupid gun bills. I have even stood in front of the NRA on the anniversary of the shooting at Tech holding a picture of a friend’s brother who died that day.

Anonymous wrote:Here is what you said in your original post:

"The House of Representatives flipped to a Republican majority when Republican George W. Bush was elected President." - not factually correct

"2022–Uvalde Robb Elementary school shooting. Democratic President Joe Biden yet again made a plea to a Republican Congress to enact an assault weapons ban, red flag laws, universal background checks, and a myriad of legislations. " - not factually correct

My facts are in fact, facts. Despite saying you’re left leaning on this topic, I don’t believe you.

Fact✅ 2001-2006 Bush. Republicans had a small majority of the seats in the U.S. House, while the U.S. Senate was equally divided between Democrats and Republicans (each with 50 seats). However, Vice President Dick Cheney presided over the Senate and was able to break the tie vote giving Republicans the majority control of both houses of Congress.

Fact✅ 2022 Biden. I did not say Republican majority Congress. I meant Republican members of Congress voted against assault weapons ban, universal red flag laws, universal background checks, domestic violence gun confiscation, et al. A significant loss with a compromise on the Bipartisan Safer Communities Act. 15 Senate Republican votes, Minority Leader Mitch McConnell vote, and 14 House Republicans votes. Republicans’ argued that we should focus on increasing public awareness of mental health and social issues. Ironic.

Posting this again for those that actually want the truth. It all started with op at 10:30.

1993-1994. Democrats had control of both houses of Congress. Dem President Bill Clinton and Dem Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman, Joe Biden passed The Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act passed in 1994.

2001-2006. Republicans had control of both houses of Congress. Rep President George W Bush allowed The Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994 to lapse at the 10 year sunset mark (2004). It didn’t pass.

2012 Sandy Hook mass shooting— Republicans had control of both houses of Congress. Dem President Barack Obama and VP Joe Biden. Obama issued 23 executive actions on gun violence in January 2013, soon after the Sandy Hook massacre. Not one of them passed. We ALL know why.

Here is what you said in your original post:

"The House of Representatives flipped to a Republican majority when Republican George W. Bush was elected President." - not factually correct

"2022–Uvalde Robb Elementary school shooting. Democratic President Joe Biden yet again made a plea to a Republican Congress to enact an assault weapons ban, red flag laws, universal background checks, and a myriad of legislations. " - not factually correct

Anonymous wrote:while I don't disagree with the general sentiment above, there are 2 factual errors

#1 Republicans took control of Congress in 1995, the first midterm of Clinton's Presidency

#2 2022 was still a Dem Congress overall...that said, Manchin and Sinema in the Senate refuse to axe the filibuster, so nothing of substance can happen in the Senate that D's want

10:30 poster. I didn’t state anything inaccurate, nor mention 1995. The law passed in 1994. So, moot point. Very few terms where one party controlled presidency and both houses (16 out of 52 years). It’s not a partisan issue. It’s a GOP crime, until they have to identify their child by the sneakers worn to school.

Here’s a clearer timeline as it relates to the enactment of the assault weapons ban and when it lapsed:

1993-1994. Democrats had control of both houses of Congress. The Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act passed in 1994. Dem President Clinton and Dem Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Joe Biden.

2003-2004. Republicans had control over both houses of Congress. Rep President George W Bush The Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994 had to be reinstated at the 10 year mark (2004). George W let it lapse, requiring a vote, and it didn’t pass.

2012 Sandy Hook mass shooting— Republicans had control of both houses of Congress. Dem President Barack Obama and Dem VP Joe Biden. Not a single gun control legislation passed.

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Anonymous wrote:They tried after Sandy Hook and failed.

Look, it is pretty much pointless until the Rs are willing to negotiate. Sinema and Manchin won’t kill the filibuster.

Any gun legislation would meet these roadblocks. It just is what it is.

Trust me, I hate this, but it is the absolute reality.

They tried one time, 11 years ago, and failed so they gave up.

Then why can't they pivot and offer something else to protect us? They are actually making things worse by reducing police and becoming more lenient ("prison reform"). Crime is going up, not down. If their only answer is to say, well, we tried once and failed, and now we are going to pull back all protections and let you all fight it out on the streets-- that is not a persuasive pitch to voters. Clean it up.

Give them control of the House and Senate and they will fix it. This is on voters.

So 11 years ago was under Obama and under republican control where Democrats could pass nothing. What did trump do for gun control? What have republicans done for gun control in the past decade besides passing permitless carry and removing any gun restrictions? I vividly remember what Repugnants were saying Sandy hook was a hoax. You are always the first to point to Dems being the problem but refuse to look in the mirror at your party's complete and utter ineptitude and refusal to do anything about gun control except send thoughts and prayers. F you.

It’s gang related, so this thread will die off now…

Why would it die? My question is, why to Republicans continue to arm gangbangers by keeping it so damn easy for them to get guns? I want answers from Republicans on how they are going to fix that.