Anonymous
05/08/2023 16:39
Subject: What’s with the rise of Hispanic “white supremacists”?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why do people think Hispanic people aren’t white? Some are, some aren’t.
None of them are WASPs. Also they are not regarded as white by WASPs.
They think of themselves as white but are not generally thought of as white by non-hispanic white people.
They are white. They are white with a Spanish surname. Spaniards are European white. Hispanic is a race the USA made up in the 1950’s when so many Puerto Ricans were leaving the island for NY. The census had to find a way to distinguish them. Ted Cruz is an all white man whose Italian/Spaniard father was born in Cuba.
Spaniards aren’t White in the sense of long history.
Iberia was under Islamic rule for centuries whereas carolingian europe wasn’t.
Anonymous
05/08/2023 16:30
Subject: What’s with the rise of Hispanic “white supremacists”?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They think they are white. It's not that deep. They don't care if you think they are white. They are racist and white in their country of origin (or their parents' country of origin) so why not be white supremacist here?
This is actually or should be a wake up call for dems --- Latinos do not consider themselves non-majority. That is why they are breaking to the right.
It’s an interesting phenomenon in an era where intersectionality is paramount and people can CHOOSE the box in which they identify. They identify as white and therefore they are white.
Anonymous
05/08/2023 16:26
Subject: What’s with the rise of Hispanic “white supremacists”?
Anonymous wrote:Let me be literal here.
This Mexican (Mexican american?) guy shoots up the mall in Allen Texas. He kills what, 8 or 9 people- seems like many were white.
So we don’t know if shooter thinks of himself as white. Victims are white in large part.
Washington post says he’s a white supremacist?
Is that in the khendi sense like you’re a racist if you aren’t an anti-racist?
Otherwise, I just don’t get it.
Yep, total mystery whether this guy is a white supremacist.
Anonymous
05/08/2023 15:36
Subject: What’s with the rise of Hispanic “white supremacists”?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why do people think Hispanic people aren’t white? Some are, some aren’t.
None of them are WASPs. Also they are not regarded as white by WASPs.
They think of themselves as white but are not generally thought of as white by non-hispanic white people.
They are white. They are white with a Spanish surname. Spaniards are European white. Hispanic is a race the USA made up in the 1950’s when so many Puerto Ricans were leaving the island for NY. The census had to find a way to distinguish them. Ted Cruz is an all white man whose Italian/Spaniard father was born in Cuba.
Also interesting that “Latin America” was a term promoted by the French under Napoleon III to justify their claim for the attempt at empire building in the Americas while we were busy killing each other over slavery and secession.
Anonymous
05/08/2023 15:35
Subject: What’s with the rise of Hispanic “white supremacists”?
Anonymous wrote:They think they are white. It's not that deep. They don't care if you think they are white. They are racist and white in their country of origin (or their parents' country of origin) so why not be white supremacist here?
This is actually or should be a wake up call for dems --- Latinos do not consider themselves non-majority. That is why they are breaking to the right.
Anonymous
Anonymous
05/08/2023 15:33
Subject: What’s with the rise of Hispanic “white supremacists”?
Anonymous wrote:It was interesting: we lived near a guy (in the military, no less) who flew a large confederate flag and then had all his brown Hispanic buddies from the military come over the party. It was the weirdest thing I had ever seen, as they all apparently thought they were white, but no white person in the Klan would have thought they were white.
Some of these folks are going to get a real surprise one day.
Are you sure this is a group of racists? Confederate flag is also a sign of rebellion. It's also a sign of heritage supposedly, but I'm not sure I believe that.
Anonymous
Anonymous
05/08/2023 15:21
Subject: Re:What’s with the rise of Hispanic “white supremacists”?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Basically any ethnic group is going to hold some racial biases. It's just a progressive narrative that only non-hispanic white people are racist.
Yes, all people can and do hold some racial biases--but not all people belong to a racial group that holds the most power in society. That is the difference.
There is a significant difference whether one is the oppressor or the oppressed.
Using the terms oppressor or oppressed to describe vast swaths of the US population is ridiculous and why few people take DEI etc seriously anymore.
I grew up in the South in the 1960s. Don’t give me that ignorant bullshit.
I think the point is that what was broadly true in the south was not universal then or today.
In your white fantasies. It’s real in Mississippi and Alabama and Florida and Texas and Tennessee and a lot more states. Those state legislatures would pass segregation tomorrow if they could get away with it.
Anonymous
05/08/2023 15:20
Subject: What’s with the rise of Hispanic “white supremacists”?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why do people think Hispanic people aren’t white? Some are, some aren’t.
None of them are WASPs. Also they are not regarded as white by WASPs.
They think of themselves as white but are not generally thought of as white by non-hispanic white people.
They are white. They are white with a Spanish surname. Spaniards are European white. Hispanic is a race the USA made up in the 1950’s when so many Puerto Ricans were leaving the island for NY. The census had to find a way to distinguish them. Ted Cruz is an all white man whose Italian/Spaniard father was born in Cuba.
Anonymous
05/08/2023 15:16
Subject: What’s with the rise of Hispanic “white supremacists”?
Anonymous wrote:They think they are white. It's not that deep. They don't care if you think they are white. They are racist and white in their country of origin (or their parents' country of origin) so why not be white supremacist here?
THIS.
Anonymous
05/08/2023 14:33
Subject: Re:What’s with the rise of Hispanic “white supremacists”?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Basically any ethnic group is going to hold some racial biases. It's just a progressive narrative that only non-hispanic white people are racist.
Yes, all people can and do hold some racial biases--but not all people belong to a racial group that holds the most power in society. That is the difference.
There is a significant difference whether one is the oppressor or the oppressed.
Using the terms oppressor or oppressed to describe vast swaths of the US population is ridiculous and why few people take DEI etc seriously anymore.
I grew up in the South in the 1960s. Don’t give me that ignorant bullshit.
I think the point is that what was broadly true in the south was not universal then or today.
Anonymous
05/08/2023 14:29
Subject: Re:What’s with the rise of Hispanic “white supremacists”?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Basically any ethnic group is going to hold some racial biases. It's just a progressive narrative that only non-hispanic white people are racist.
Yes, all people can and do hold some racial biases--but not all people belong to a racial group that holds the most power in society. That is the difference.
There is a significant difference whether one is the oppressor or the oppressed.
Using the terms oppressor or oppressed to describe vast swaths of the US population is ridiculous and why few people take DEI etc seriously anymore.
I grew up in the South in the 1960s. Don’t give me that ignorant bullshit.
Sorry, I don't live in the past. It's 2023 in case you haven't heard.
yup, it's 2023 and still entire states are trying to hide history (book about Ruby Bridges banned in schools in Florida and other places, hard to explain to a kid why sweet grandma and her friends had to be restrained by police while trying to assault a first grader) or making hard to minority to vote.
Anonymous
05/08/2023 13:48
Subject: Re:What’s with the rise of Hispanic “white supremacists”?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Basically any ethnic group is going to hold some racial biases. It's just a progressive narrative that only non-hispanic white people are racist.
Yes, all people can and do hold some racial biases--but not all people belong to a racial group that holds the most power in society. That is the difference.
There is a significant difference whether one is the oppressor or the oppressed.
Using the terms oppressor or oppressed to describe vast swaths of the US population is ridiculous and why few people take DEI etc seriously anymore.
I grew up in the South in the 1960s. Don’t give me that ignorant bullshit.
Sorry, I don't live in the past. It's 2023 in case you haven't heard.
Anonymous
05/08/2023 13:46
Subject: Re:What’s with the rise of Hispanic “white supremacists”?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Basically any ethnic group is going to hold some racial biases. It's just a progressive narrative that only non-hispanic white people are racist.
Yes, all people can and do hold some racial biases--but not all people belong to a racial group that holds the most power in society. That is the difference.
There is a significant difference whether one is the oppressor or the oppressed.
Using the terms oppressor or oppressed to describe vast swaths of the US population is ridiculous and why few people take DEI etc seriously anymore.
I grew up in the South in the 1960s. Don’t give me that ignorant bullshit.