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Anonymous wrote:You want to game the system move to North Dakota or Wyoming

OK but then your grad school plans go to hell

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using the Cal State system. That's considered way below the U.C. system

“Way below” is an exaggeration. All of the UCs are pretty hard to get into now. In some fields it might even make more sense to go to a CSU.

Disagree. Anyone can walk into a Cal State. UCs? no.

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Anonymous wrote:California.

+1 best in state options. Tons of schools to choose from, and it's relatively inexpensive, though the col is expensive.

Typically, a state with *a lot* of really great in state options will have higher taxes. That's how the states pay for these great in state options.

Really? I'd probably put Texas right in line behind California with Virginia next. Neither are particularly high Tax. Connecticut and Massachusetts are very high tax and have relatively terrible offerings. The same goes for NJ and Illinois

TX does have a ton of state schools. Most only know and care about UT and A&M, MAYBE TX Tech?

That said, I wouldn't go anywhere near TX at this point and can't believe I was almost talked into moving there more than a decade ago. Their state legislature is BSC.

IMO, CA has way more decent in state options than VA or TX. Obviously, the larger states will have more options.

CA has 9 UCs, 23 CSUs, and at least half of those CSUs are pretty decent in state options. They have good ROI. So, you have 20 decent to great in state options.

I don't disagree. I had investigated several CSU campuses while helping my daughter research options. San Jose State seemed like a really nice place to go to school. San Diego State (in the National Championship game for basketball this year!) and Long Beach State are popular from what I can tell as well. That said, didn't the Cal States just recently announce no one from OOS would be considered?

But, speaking as a Californian, you really don't want your kid going to a Cal STate. You want them to go to a U.C. school and those are getting increasingly difficult to get into. The Cal States won't get you into a good grad school

So? Not everyone wants to go to grad school.

Several CSUs are known to have great ROI, and some are really great for STEM, Cal poly SLO, Pomona, SJSU feeder to SV companies, etc..

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Anonymous wrote:Applying to top state flagships in TX, CA, NC, FL, MI as a high school student living in a desirable urban or suburban area in that respective state is no easier than, say, applying to UVA from Arlington or McLean. Or applying to UMD out of Bethesda.

um, getting into UNC much easier in state than UVA in state Like 43.1 vs. 26.3

Not if you live in Chapel Hill, Durham, Cary, Raleigh or Charlotte.

Yup. We live in Chapel Hill and know so many kids with great stats who didn't get in to UNC. It's much easier if you live somewhere else in NC, but then you have to live somewhere else in NC.

Hmm...I wonder who my fellow Chapel Hillian who visits DCUM is. Anyway, while I have always heard it's harder to get into UNC from CH than other parts of NC, so many kids get in from my kids' high school. This year pretty much every "great" student and even some merely "good" students who we know applied, got in. (We know of 2 who didn't get in.) I was surprised by a few of the acceptances. Our school sends over 10% of its students to UNC.

I just looked at the scattergram for our high school (which probably could be more accurate, but it's the best we've got), and for 2022 it says 70 applied and 31 were accepted. In 2021 it says 80 applied and 37 were accepted. That seems pretty high to me. Our senior class size is usually under 200. This year it's ~172.

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Anonymous wrote:You want to game the system move to North Dakota or Wyoming

OK but then your grad school plans go to hell

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using the Cal State system. That's considered way below the U.C. system

“Way below” is an exaggeration. All of the UCs are pretty hard to get into now. In some fields it might even make more sense to go to a CSU.

No there's still UC Riverside & UC Merced. They have lower acceptance rates of 65% & 86% respectively.

Some of the Cal States are competitive - Cal Poly San Luis is 33%, Cal State San Diego is 38% and Long Beach is 47%

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Anonymous wrote:You want to game the system move to North Dakota or Wyoming

OK but then your grad school plans go to hell

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using the Cal State system. That's considered way below the U.C. system

“Way below” is an exaggeration. All of the UCs are pretty hard to get into now. In some fields it might even make more sense to go to a CSU.

Anonymous wrote:VA for sure due to the amount and diversity of options.

+1 VA's system is unrivaled

FL or GA for the Bright/Hope scholarships

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Anonymous wrote:Applying to top state flagships in TX, CA, NC, FL, MI as a high school student living in a desirable urban or suburban area in that respective state is no easier than, say, applying to UVA from Arlington or McLean. Or applying to UMD out of Bethesda.

um, getting into UNC much easier in state than UVA in state Like 43.1 vs. 26.3

Not if you live in Chapel Hill, Durham, Cary, Raleigh or Charlotte.

Yup. We live in Chapel Hill and know so many kids with great stats who didn't get in to UNC. It's much easier if you live somewhere else in NC, but then you have to live somewhere else in NC.

Not from Virginia. It's very difficult to get in. Less then 10% OOS. UVA takes 30% OOS. Very different systems

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Anonymous wrote:You want to game the system move to North Dakota or Wyoming

OK but then your grad school plans go to hell

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using the Cal State system. That's considered way below the U.C. system

Cal Poly & SJSU are not

VA for sure due to the amount and diversity of options.

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using the Cal State system. That's considered way below the U.C. system

Anonymous wrote:I know someone who moved to Maryland with their parents and still couldn't get in-state tuition because they hadn't lived here long enough. (The school goes by when the driver's license changed to Maryland.)

Make sure you ask the school how long you need to live in the state for in-state tuition. It might be a year or more.

Yes, for many places you do need to establish residency more than a year before you plan to enroll.
For California: https://www.ucop.edu/residency/residency-requirements.html
For florida: https://www.floridashines.org/residency-for-in-state-tuition#:~:text=To%20be%20eligible%20for%20in,first%20day%20of%20the%20term
For Texas: https://admissions.utexas.edu/residency

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Anonymous wrote:Applying to top state flagships in TX, CA, NC, FL, MI as a high school student living in a desirable urban or suburban area in that respective state is no easier than, say, applying to UVA from Arlington or McLean. Or applying to UMD out of Bethesda.

um, getting into UNC much easier in state than UVA in state Like 43.1 vs. 26.3

Not if you live in Chapel Hill, Durham, Cary, Raleigh or Charlotte.

Yup. We live in Chapel Hill and know so many kids with great stats who didn't get in to UNC. It's much easier if you live somewhere else in NC, but then you have to live somewhere else in NC.

For all the people mentioning California, the UCs have been playing the admissions game unpredictably this past year and a lot of kids got frozen out of schools they thought they were a shoe in for.

No one ever seems to talk about Tennessee or Kentucky? How are the flagships in those states?

Alabama has Auburn and 'Bama. Two solid options.

SC has USC and Clemson.

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Anonymous wrote:Florida or Georgia. Go somewhere that has free instates. I'm from Florida and Bright Futures covered nearly all of my tuition.

This thank god for republican governors

Unless you’re a woman or a student of course…

Or gay

Yup.

Yeah, FL or GA with the in state deals sound great. But this is the fine print