Anonymous wrote:Duke has no business being in the top 10, just look at their individual academic programs and make up your own mind.

I did this yesterday and came to the same conclusion.

I think Duke graduates are inherently VERY strong. Compare favorably to HYPS, if not peers.

However, education quality is good, but not deserving of top 10 status.

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Anonymous wrote:Duke has no business being in the top 10, just look at their individual academic programs and make up your own mind.

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Which ones? Most of the subject ratings are graduate program ratings, not undergraduate.

Duke has top 10 outcomes for undergraduates.

+1 their mainstay is their undergrad program which is why it's a great place for college. They're also surrounded by many top 10 graduate programs which doesn't hurt either.

Graduate school rankings are generally the best measure of academics for a department. If a school does not rank well in a subject for graduate school, well that reflects on the quality of faculty and graduate students teaching undergraduate courses. The graduate school rankings are directly linked to the undergraduate programs.

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Anonymous wrote:If Econ major and wants to go into banking or consulting then Penn may have a slight advantage but only very slight

Oh is it? As in the brand name or the internships and other on campus opportunities or in terms of academics quality and education received there ?

Don’t get it twisted. Penn is in the Harvard/Yale/Stanford tier for banking and consulting. Duke is in the Georgetown/Vanderbilt/UVA tier. Nothing wrong with that. But it’s apples and oranges, in terms of comparison.

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Penn/Duke/Caltech, mayyybe Berkeley
Wash U/Columbia/Cornell/Notre Dame etc

Those tiers don’t apply to banking and consulting. Penn is considerably higher than Duke in that regard. Top tier. Duke is lower tier. Anyone with experience in those industries would know this.

Every ranking I have seen places them same . But Duke preps you better

Consulting (WSJ):

RANK
COLLEGE
ANNUAL SALARY PREMIUM
MANAGEMENT CONSULTING % OF GRADUATES
AVERAGE YEARLY SALARY
2019-2020 AVERAGE NET PRICE
1 Harvard University $61,042 7.59% $155,051 $18,037
2 Massachusetts Institute of Technology $58,083 4.11% $152,092 $19,998
3 Princeton University $56,117 6.38% $150,126 $18,685
4 Yale University $53,192 7.37% $147,201 $17,386
5 Dartmouth College $50,950 6.14% $144,959 $24,525
6 Stanford University $48,290 4.47% $142,299 $20,023
7 Duke University $44,985 5.56% $138,994 $26,932
8 University of Pennsylvania $44,344 6.19% $138,353 $24,167
9 Williams College $42,627 4.92% $136,636 $22,356
10 Rice University $42,025 4.15% $136,034 $19,215

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Anonymous wrote:If Econ major and wants to go into banking or consulting then Penn may have a slight advantage but only very slight

Oh is it? As in the brand name or the internships and other on campus opportunities or in terms of academics quality and education received there ?

Don’t get it twisted. Penn is in the Harvard/Yale/Stanford tier for banking and consulting. Duke is in the Georgetown/Vanderbilt/UVA tier. Nothing wrong with that. But it’s apples and oranges, in terms of comparison.

HYPSM
Penn/Duke/Caltech, mayyybe Berkeley
Wash U/Columbia/Cornell/Notre Dame etc

Those tiers don’t apply to banking and consulting. Penn is considerably higher than Duke in that regard. Top tier. Duke is lower tier. Anyone with experience in those industries would know this.

Every ranking I have seen places them same . But Duke preps you better

Finance (from WSJ):
1 Massachusetts Institute of Technology $48,051 4.09% $144,802 $19,998
2 Harvard University $39,879 8.84% $136,630 $18,037
3 Princeton University $39,094 9.75% $135,845 $18,685
4 University of Pennsylvania $39,092 12.65% $135,843 $24,167
5 Dartmouth College $37,768 9.02% $134,519 $24,525
6 Yale University $34,148 8.58% $130,899 $17,386
7 Columbia University in the City of New York $33,354 10.22% $130,105 $22,126
8 Duke University $32,568 7.80% $129,319 $26,932
9 Middlebury College $32,326 6.68% $129,077 $24,517
10 University of Chicago $31,833 7.69% $128,584 $36,584

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Anonymous wrote:Duke has no business being in the top 10, just look at their individual academic programs and make up your own mind.

+1

Which ones? Most of the subject ratings are graduate program ratings, not undergraduate.

Duke has top 10 outcomes for undergraduates.

+1 their mainstay is their undergrad program which is why it's a great place for college. They're also surrounded by many top 10 graduate programs which doesn't hurt either.

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Anonymous wrote:Duke has no business being in the top 10, just look at their individual academic programs and make up your own mind.

+1

Which ones? Most of the subject ratings are graduate program ratings, not undergraduate.

Duke has top 10 outcomes for undergraduates.

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Anonymous wrote:As a distant observer, I just think it's funny how many people on here trash Duke haha

Duke is like that person who shows up to the party without an invite and it gets awkward.

Columbia is the one who struggles socially but got a pity invite. Everyone can tell they don't belong.

Anonymous wrote:As a distant observer, I just think it's funny how many people on here trash Duke haha

Duke is like that person who shows up to the party without an invite and it gets awkward.

As a distant observer, I just think it's funny how many people on here trash Duke haha

Anonymous wrote:Duke has no business being in the top 10, just look at their individual academic programs and make up your own mind.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:If Econ major and wants to go into banking or consulting then Penn may have a slight advantage but only very slight

Oh is it? As in the brand name or the internships and other on campus opportunities or in terms of academics quality and education received there ?

Don’t get it twisted. Penn is in the Harvard/Yale/Stanford tier for banking and consulting. Duke is in the Georgetown/Vanderbilt/UVA tier. Nothing wrong with that. But it’s apples and oranges, in terms of comparison.

HYPSM
Penn/Duke/Caltech, mayyybe Berkeley
Wash U/Columbia/Cornell/Notre Dame etc

Those tiers don’t apply to banking and consulting. Penn is considerably higher than Duke in that regard. Top tier. Duke is lower tier. Anyone with experience in those industries would know this.

Every ranking I have seen places them same . But Duke preps you better

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Anonymous wrote:If Econ major and wants to go into banking or consulting then Penn may have a slight advantage but only very slight

Oh is it? As in the brand name or the internships and other on campus opportunities or in terms of academics quality and education received there ?

Don’t get it twisted. Penn is in the Harvard/Yale/Stanford tier for banking and consulting. Duke is in the Georgetown/Vanderbilt/UVA tier. Nothing wrong with that. But it’s apples and oranges, in terms of comparison.

HYPSM
Penn/Duke/Caltech, mayyybe Berkeley
Wash U/Columbia/Cornell/Notre Dame etc

Those tiers don’t apply to banking and consulting. Penn is considerably higher than Duke in that regard. Top tier. Duke is lower tier. Anyone with experience in those industries would know this.

Duke has no business being in the top 10, just look at their individual academic programs and make up your own mind.

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Anonymous wrote:If Econ major and wants to go into banking or consulting then Penn may have a slight advantage but only very slight

Oh is it? As in the brand name or the internships and other on campus opportunities or in terms of academics quality and education received there ?

Don’t get it twisted. Penn is in the Harvard/Yale/Stanford tier for banking and consulting. Duke is in the Georgetown/Vanderbilt/UVA tier. Nothing wrong with that. But it’s apples and oranges, in terms of comparison.

HYPSM
Penn/Duke/Caltech, mayyybe Berkeley
Wash U/Columbia/Cornell/Notre Dame etc